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Re: Ros v Galway Connacht Final 2019
« Reply #300 on: June 18, 2019, 07:12:10 AM »
Where is Syferus?

He putting on boards.ie now. He posts under Syferus and nice guys 80s on that forum
Are you going around trying to find similarities to posts on different forums?
You need to get out more

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Re: Ros v Galway Connacht Final 2019
« Reply #301 on: June 18, 2019, 07:32:39 AM »
Roscommon won because they were the hungrier outfit and when the game was in the melting pot, their appetite was in stark contrast to the galway one.

Alas, I fear hunger and honest application may only get you so far, and there is a strong possibility that the Rossie will not win another game, in fact, I dare say, many will view them as a weak link in the Super 8s and those coming through the qualifier route will be hoping they are in the Rossie group.

I disagree. It depends on who they get, but whoever they do get, the Hyde will be rocking for the first game.
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Re: Ros v Galway Connacht Final 2019
« Reply #302 on: June 18, 2019, 07:44:53 AM »
Where is Syferus?

He putting on boards.ie now. He posts under Syferus and nice guys 80s on that forum
Are you going around trying to find similarities to posts on different forums?
You need to get out more

Wouldn't have to look hard..nice guys posts the same posts here as boards . 😜😜😜

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Re: Ros v Galway Connacht Final 2019
« Reply #303 on: June 18, 2019, 07:47:55 AM »
Where is Syferus?

He putting on boards.ie now. He posts under Syferus and nice guys 80s on that forum
He isnít nice guy80. Nice guy 80 was talking about Offaly hurling in a thread, iirc.

Sorry your correct. Nice guys is from either roscommon/Westmeath.  School teacher and post on here.

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Re: Ros v Galway Connacht Final 2019
« Reply #304 on: June 18, 2019, 08:39:09 AM »
Where is Syferus?

He putting on boards.ie now. He posts under Syferus and nice guys 80s on that forum
Are you going around trying to find similarities to posts on different forums?
You need to get out more
No. But itís highly unlikely that someone from Mid-north Roscommon would have a decent knowledge of Offaly hurling. I only read the page about Offaly. Donít have that much time on my hands.
Funnily enough, some say I get out too much.

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Re: Ros v Galway Connacht Final 2019
« Reply #305 on: June 18, 2019, 10:17:56 AM »
Where is Syferus?

He putting on boards.ie now. He posts under Syferus and nice guys 80s on that forum
Are you going around trying to find similarities to posts on different forums?
You need to get out more
No. But itís highly unlikely that someone from Mid-north Roscommon would have a decent knowledge of Offaly hurling. I only read the page about Offaly. Donít have that much time on my hands.
Funnily enough, some say I get out too much.
Syferus still annoying the arse off us on stolen sheep..still the same syferus..

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Re: Ros v Galway Connacht Final 2019
« Reply #306 on: June 18, 2019, 10:49:56 AM »
Where is Syferus?

He putting on boards.ie now. He posts under Syferus and nice guys 80s on that forum
Are you going around trying to find similarities to posts on different forums?
You need to get out more
No. But itís highly unlikely that someone from Mid-north Roscommon would have a decent knowledge of Offaly hurling. I only read the page about Offaly. Donít have that much time on my hands.
Funnily enough, some say I get out too much.
Syferus still annoying the arse off us on stolen sheep..still the same syferus..

Ah heís not that bad. A bit of a WUM. Iím not free from blame with regards annoying ye either. Iíve an interest in Roscommon football and occasionally pop up on it, although Iíd say itís too often for yer liking.

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Re: Ros v Galway Connacht Final 2019
« Reply #307 on: June 18, 2019, 10:53:47 AM »
Rossfan, maybe you can rename the thread topic 'Whereabouts of Syferus'.
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Re: Ros v Galway Connacht Final 2019
« Reply #308 on: June 18, 2019, 11:07:11 AM »
He must have been banned from here?
Thank God!!
He managed to credit McStay for Sunday's victory ;D
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Re: Ros v Galway Connacht Final 2019
« Reply #309 on: June 18, 2019, 11:12:43 AM »
He must have been banned from here?
Thank God!!
He managed to credit McStay for Sunday's victory ;D
Thank God is right. What an imbecile.

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Re: Ros v Galway Connacht Final 2019
« Reply #310 on: June 18, 2019, 11:24:05 AM »
Where is Syferus?

He putting on boards.ie now. He posts under Syferus and nice guys 80s on that forum
Are you going around trying to find similarities to posts on different forums?
You need to get out more
No. But itís highly unlikely that someone from Mid-north Roscommon would have a decent knowledge of Offaly hurling. I only read the page about Offaly. Donít have that much time on my hands.
Funnily enough, some say I get out too much.

A lack of knowledge on any particular subject never stopped Syferus form pontificating before.

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Re: Ros v Galway Connacht Final 2019
« Reply #311 on: June 18, 2019, 11:24:57 AM »
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/kevin-mcstay-sliding-doors-moment-has-worked-out-very-well-for-roscommon-1.3928559

Kevin McStay: sliding doors moment has worked out very well for Roscommon

Scenes from Salthill on Sunday showed the best side of the provincial championships


 
Kevin McStay

 I left RT… after the Sunday Game and made it back to Roscommon town shortly before one in the morning. The doors were open to all houses and the streets were busy and merriment was general.

Itís funny. In a year in which many people, including myself, have been advocating for a new order which would probably see the end of the provincial championships, itís as if the old rivalries have been mocking us.

This yearís Connacht championship has been one big surprise and Roscommon have been at the heart of it. So they enjoyed Sunday night as much as any Connacht winning year.

The build-up to the game had been odd for me. I met Derek McGrath, the former Waterford hurling manager, a few weeks ago. We agreed that being ďthe ex-managerĒ is a surreal existence. Because people see you and automatically still link you with the team and ask you about things as if you are still there: in the dressing room, at training, on the phone to the players. What they donít realise is that that phone is dead: the cord is cut. You donít even have the number. You know a bit more than the guy on the street Ė but not much more!

So I was driving up to RT… on Sunday morning wondering about the Roscommon substitutes Ė who would they bring in; in what scenario would such and such work? Two years ago, that was my decision. Now, I was just guessing like anyone else. You go from a situation where you know everything about these lads Ė their exams, their partners, their car problems, their tractor problems, their work aspirations. And then one day it is the sound of silence. It is over.
Roscommonís Cathal Cregg celebrates after beating Galway to win the Connacht senio football championship. Photo: Tommy Dickson/Inpho Roscommonís Cathal Cregg celebrates after beating Galway to win the Connacht senio football championship. Photo: Tommy Dickson/Inpho 
The point is: the week reminded me that I am outside of that bubble. And we do not know what is going on inside that group. Thereís a (bleak) saying: the train you donít see coming is the train thatís going to kill you. And what we donít know is how hungry and hurt and desperate Roscommon were for this victory. We can only guess at their internal motivations and belief.


So on Sunday, I was headed east and all the cars with flags were setting out Ė early Ė for Galway. There was great excitement around the county. It felt different to 2017, which was a win that came as a massive surprise. That final was supposed to be the implosion of us as a group. On Sunday, Roscommon people felt that if a few things worked out, then a good result was a strong possibility.

And part of me would have loved to have been on the bus as the man leading that charge. But then you remember the eight months of unglamorous slog on the field, the constant stress of thinking and thinking about the team Ė I would fall asleep convinced I had to drop X and then wake up absolutely certain that X was the man to drive midfield.

It is always, always on your mind. It runs your life. And it is worth it: if you win. That is the killer bit about a final. For Anthony Cunningham, all of the mental and physical hours he has put in are worth it this week. And for Kevin Walsh, the question is: what now?

ďThe expectation to win is ingrained in Galway and Mayo minds. It just is

How good are Roscommon? They were decent in the opening quarter and then lost their energy and enthusiasm in that second period. They had a brilliant third quarter and maybe just hung on to see the game out. So it was a good performance but also one on which they need to build. I thought Hubert Darcy and Colin Compton did extremely well when introduced: they were significant substitutions.

It was a puzzling day from a Galway perspective. I felt that as a management, they needed to figure out the Roscommon full-forward line. And they didnít. They didnít contain Diarmuid Murtagh (1-3), Conor Cox (0-4) or the general influence of Enda Smith.

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I think what is lost sometimes is this: there is a hierarchy in Connacht. Roscommon are the pesky neighbours to Galway and Mayo. What that means is that the expectation to win is ingrained in Galway and Mayo minds. It just is.

I had Galway up there in my list as contenders prior to this yearís championship. And I know how the squad must have felt on Monday morning. I would have a lot of empathy for them Ė my people are from Galway.
Cathal Cregg celebrates a late point. Photo: Tommy Dickson/Inpho Cathal Cregg celebrates a late point. Photo: Tommy Dickson/Inpho 
I think itís clear that the Galway public has never loved this set up and that media people have gone after Kevin for the way they play. And Iíll say this: Kevin is a very decent human being. He was a marvellous footballer. And stand back at look at his record. Galway had no Connacht titles since 2008 when Kevin took over in 2015. That is a massive gap for the brand leader in the province. Kevin came in and he broke the Mayo monopoly. He has won two Connacht titles, reached All-Ireland quarter-finals; an All-Ireland semi-final; a national league final.

But the general negativity goes back to this defensive formation that Galway have favoured. Why do you suppose he does that? Well, he knows that in order to thrive, a team must have defensive solidity and organisation. That became their calling card.

The criticism directed at Kevin and Galway is predicated on the belief that this system is stifling Galwayís creativity and attack and that any team that wants to win an All-Ireland has to show more ambition and thrust and get more players further up the field. Does nobody ever stop to think that Kevin Walsh knows this better than anyone? We donít see what he sees at training. We donít know what happens if Galway defenders are left exposed in one-on-one situations, isolated against their direct opponent.


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We donít know this because Kevin hasnít allowed it to happen in competitive games. There may be a good reason for that. He canít ever come out and say it. He canít say: hey, I canít leave these guys on their own or weíll get cleaned out. But maybe that is the reality.

Within the context of this final, the answer as to why Galway collapsed in the second half is not immediately obvious. Leadership and intensity is too simplistic. But Damien Comer, Paul Conroy and Ciaran Duggan are big physical presences and they were missing through injury. Fintan ” Curraoin had to leave the field with an injury. It can be hard to win big games when significant players are out. But the nature of the collapse has to be worrying for the management group.

ďYou have to give massive kudos to Roscommon. They blew the game open in six minutes after half time

There wasnít a man in Roscommon who felt confident of victory at half-time. But, astutely, Colm Cooper noted on the Sunday Game, you just canít back Galway to tidy a game like that up: to finish it off. The easiest answer, of course, is that Galway are just not quite good enough.

It is going to be a tough week in Galway football land. The group needs to stick tight this week and next. Because they can win a round four qualifier and get back on the horse. But I believe yesterday ended their chances of a long summer. The confidence is being drained from the group and what little support there is among the public will likely evaporate.
Conor Cox and Tadgh OíRourke goe past Thomas Flynn. Photo: Tommy Grealy/Inpho Conor Cox and Tadgh OíRourke goe past Thomas Flynn. Photo: Tommy Grealy/Inpho 
I thought Kevin looked tired and a bit haunted. And I recognised that look. You can see Brian Silkeís frustration and this recognition of: ďGod, this is gone from us againĒ.

The cold stats are alarming. Four of the Galway forward line taken off. Two points in 44 minutes; outscored 1-8 to 0-2 in the second half. The first point of the second half only arriving 21 minutes into that half. The second, a 45, when the game was into injury-time. Kevin will be disappointed, frustrated and livid.

Against that, you have to give massive kudos to Roscommon. They blew the game open in six minutes after half-time. Galway were 10 for 11 from shots taken in the first half. In the second, they had nine shots and scored two. Roscommon were 50 per cent in the first half. But in the second half, they were nine scores for 11 shots. The halves were mirror images statistically.

In slightly different circumstances, Roscommon could now be a three-in-a-row team this week. The confidence this win brings Ė a three-week rest and a first Super Eights game at home against a round four qualifier Ė is inestimable.

What was lost in the commentary is that Roscommon had nine new starters from last yearís final. Niall McInerney, Cathal Compton and Ciaran Murtagh were not available to Anthony and they would be automatic picks if playing to full potential. Roscommon now have a defensive mindset and a desire and a feeling, surely, that they must belong in elite company.

ďThe two teams I would hate Roscommon to meet between now and the end of the year are Mayo and Galway

The challenge now is to perform and compete at that highest level. People forget that Roscommon had agreed on a new manager prior to this season. Then he withdrew his name. And then Dublin hurling went in a different direction and Anthony became available. It was a sliding doors moment and it has worked out very well for Roscommon. Sport can be funny.


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So where can Roscommon go with this? Five Connacht finals in four years mean they are not newbies. They have two titles out of four attempts, which is above the Rossiesí mean average. The challenge now is to perform but it may not be this year that we see the best of this group.

The two teams I would hate Roscommon to meet between now and the end of the year are Mayo and Galway. Mayo, in particular, are just more grizzled and experienced.

Roscommonís massive ambition for 2019 would be an All-Ireland semi-final. So when can they burst through this glass ceiling and dream the impossible with conviction? Well, when they perform and compete seriously at the Super Eights level.

They are in a different space now and the championship is opening up for them.
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Re: Ros v Galway Connacht Final 2019
« Reply #312 on: June 18, 2019, 11:36:32 AM »
"Roscommon now have a defensive mindset"
And 3 Dalys Kevin ;)
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Re: Ros v Galway Connacht Final 2019
« Reply #313 on: June 18, 2019, 11:59:52 AM »
Great day. As I said earlier, I love Salthill. A place where you can really make a day out of it. Bite first to eat in The Galleon, always great food, breathe in a bit of sea air and you are set for the day. I was surprised to see no wind blowing when I got there  for the junior game but it was pissing from the heavens. I still have not figured out what happened at the end of that game. Mayo seemed to get a wide that was waved a point. Scoreboard was level. The PA said weíll now have extra time only to have to correct himself later and say Galway had won. Was looking forward to extra time as like last year the gap between the curtain raiser and senior was nearly two hours. Then they rolled out the Leitrim team of 1994 when the ground was not even half full. Only Johno remembered to bring a umbrella.

As for the senior game, when Murtagh made it 0-5 each and got a clatter for his efforts, I thought we were getting on top then only for Galway to take complete control and in truth looked a level above us. I saw no way back in second half but lo and behold, the rain stopped, and both Ros and Galway came out transformed teams in equal and opposite directions. Love the newfound physicality and work ethic of this Roscommon team and all the great work that went into underage is paying off. Just like that we have 3 Connacht titles this decade, our best haul since 70s when we won 4. This team not at that level yet but the good thing is I feel they still have room to improve and grow.

My commiserations to Galway. I know the fellas around me were in shock in the end but gracious in defeat. One thing I will say is why was there only 17,000 there and at least 12,000 were from Ros. I have not watched  it back yet but thought Cassidy did a fair job. It was a fairly bruising encounter and we had Cregg, Smith and Devanney go off injured, three of our most senior players while Galway had a big loss in FOC. I still back Galway to win their qualifier and good luck lads. For us weíll see what the draw brings but realistically with Dublin in our group we are playing for one spot. Galway and Mayo may yet find themselves in a handier group on the other side.

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Re: Ros v Galway Connacht Final 2019
« Reply #314 on: June 18, 2019, 12:17:26 PM »
Great day. As I said earlier, I love Salthill. A place where you can really make a day out of it. Bite first to eat in The Galleon, always great food, breathe in a bit of sea air and you are set for the day. I was surprised to see no wind blowing when I got there  for the junior game but it was pissing from the heavens. I still have not figured out what happened at the end of that game. Mayo seemed to get a wide that was waved a point. Scoreboard was level. The PA said weíll now have extra time only to have to correct himself later and say Galway had won. Was looking forward to extra time as like last year the gap between the curtain raiser and senior was nearly two hours. Then they rolled out the Leitrim team of 1994 when the ground was not even half full. Only Johno remembered to bring a umbrella.

As for the senior game, when Murtagh made it 0-5 each and got a clatter for his efforts, I thought we were getting on top then only for Galway to take complete control and in truth looked a level above us. I saw no way back in second half but lo and behold, the rain stopped, and both Ros and Galway came out transformed teams in equal and opposite directions. Love the newfound physicality and work ethic of this Roscommon team and all the great work that went into underage is paying off. Just like that we have 3 Connacht titles this decade, our best haul since 70s when we won 4. This team not at that level yet but the good thing is I feel they still have room to improve and grow.

My commiserations to Galway. I know the fellas around me were in shock in the end but gracious in defeat. One thing I will say is why was there only 17,000 there and at least 12,000 were from Ros. I have not watched  it back yet but thought Cassidy did a fair job. It was a fairly bruising encounter and we had Cregg, Smith and Devanney go off injured, three of our most senior players while Galway had a big loss in FOC. I still back Galway to win their qualifier and good luck lads. For us weíll see what the draw brings but realistically with Dublin in our group we are playing for one spot. Galway and Mayo may yet find themselves in a handier group on the other side.

From my recollection Mayo had a direct free kick when two points down that dropped just short, it was flicked/helped over the bar but disallowed by the ref for a either a square ball or some other infraction on the Galway goalkeeper or defender. It was clearly signalled as a free out at the time despite the ball going over the bar. 
The scoreboard operator did not notice this and credited the point to Mayo which (on the scoreboard) left a point in it although in reality it was still a two point game, myself and the other Galway crowd around me noticed this immediately but it was not rectified.
Mayo subsequently scored another point to leave it a one point match but the scoreboard showed it as a draw match 1-7 to 0-10 when in actuality the score was 1-7 to 0-09 at full time. After that it took the announcer a minute to be informed of the mistake after he initially stated that there would be ET.