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Re: Hurling Needs a heavier sliotar
« Reply #30 on: May 31, 2019, 08:43:52 AM »
Im a hurling man true. But every game has its faults and no point resting on reputation. Only players with lots of space and time can put the ball over the bar from 100 yards. Seldom you see someone do it under pressure and if you do then its worth the watch like joe canning in 2017. But in order to make things better you correct the known faults first. Like...implement a better hand-pass rule, implement a better spare hand rule,implement the steps rule and implement a standard hurl size. Then tweek again.

Standard hurl size? I assume you mean the bás? Surely not the length/weight. Maybe have outer limits, but everyone nearly has a unique preference in length and weight of the hurl.

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Re: Hurling Needs a heavier sliotar
« Reply #31 on: May 31, 2019, 09:41:53 PM »
Sorry yes Bas size

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Re: Hurling Needs a heavier sliotar
« Reply #32 on: May 31, 2019, 10:08:07 PM »
Bas size seems to be self-regulating. Too big and it becomes unwieldy, too small and the striking/carrying surface is too small. I'm not sure what problem you're trying to solve by micromanaging the Bas size.

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Re: Hurling Needs a heavier sliotar
« Reply #33 on: May 31, 2019, 11:56:20 PM »
Bas size seems to be self-regulating. Too big and it becomes unwieldy, too small and the striking/carrying surface is too small. I'm not sure what problem you're trying to solve by micromanaging the Bas size.

Is it unwieldy for the goal keeper?
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Re: Hurling Needs a heavier sliotar
« Reply #34 on: June 01, 2019, 11:15:13 AM »
Bring back the hurleys they had 100 years ago with the curved ending on them.
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« Reply #35 on: June 01, 2019, 12:50:20 PM »
Bring back the hurleys they had 100 years ago with the curved ending on them.

A ‘Randal’ not sure of the spelling but that was a stick that had that typical curved end, that’s when ground hurling was a thing, was always a Nordic thing going back to Shinty
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Re: Hurling Needs a heavier sliotar
« Reply #36 on: August 05, 2019, 11:01:58 PM »
Watch: Laois 'keeper Rowland scores from a puckout
http://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/302465

If we can't have a heavier sliotar we'll have to extend the pitches !

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Re: Hurling Needs a heavier sliotar
« Reply #37 on: August 05, 2019, 11:44:21 PM »
Watch: Laois 'keeper Rowland scores from a puckout
http://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/302465

If we can't have a heavier sliotar we'll have to extend the pitches !

Just to clarify the scores, the ball didn’t go over the bar clean from puck out, gale force wind blowing down the pitch, keep your hair on
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Re: Hurling Needs a heavier sliotar
« Reply #38 on: August 06, 2019, 12:08:20 AM »
Bas size seems to be self-regulating. Too big and it becomes unwieldy, too small and the striking/carrying surface is too small. I'm not sure what problem you're trying to solve by micromanaging the Bas size.

Is it unwieldy for the goal keeper?

A little bit, but that's the trade-off goalies make for a larger surface to stop shots. A keeper's hurley wouldn't be practical for the other players on the field who spend more time swinging.

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Re: Hurling Needs a heavier sliotar
« Reply #39 on: August 06, 2019, 08:36:32 AM »
Bas size seems to be self-regulating. Too big and it becomes unwieldy, too small and the striking/carrying surface is too small. I'm not sure what problem you're trying to solve by micromanaging the Bas size.

Is it unwieldy for the goal keeper?

A little bit, but that's the trade-off goalies make for a larger surface to stop shots. A keeper's hurley wouldn't be practical for the other players on the field who spend more time swinging.

Yeah, shot stopping wouldn't be the key area for keepers nowadays.  All about picking the ball up aou around the goals and for striking.  Shot stopping is down the list.

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Re: Hurling Needs a heavier sliotar
« Reply #40 on: August 06, 2019, 08:56:33 AM »
Watch: Laois 'keeper Rowland scores from a puckout
http://hoganstand.com/Article/Index/302465

If we can't have a heavier sliotar we'll have to extend the pitches !

Just to clarify the scores, the ball didn’t go over the bar clean from puck out, gale force wind blowing down the pitch, keep your hair on

Yes, it bounced in the square before going over, but it was certainly not a gale-force wind. There was a good breeze, all right, but way off gale force. Funnily enough, the previous Laois goalie, Eoin Reilly, shot a wide from a puck-out against Cork in a league game a few years ago - but that WAS with the assistance of a gale-force wind! He was also a bit of a long-puck specialist, and is from the same club as Rowland.

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Re: Hurling Needs a heavier sliotar
« Reply #41 on: August 06, 2019, 08:59:00 AM »
Bas size seems to be self-regulating. Too big and it becomes unwieldy, too small and the striking/carrying surface is too small. I'm not sure what problem you're trying to solve by micromanaging the Bas size.

Is it unwieldy for the goal keeper?

A little bit, but that's the trade-off goalies make for a larger surface to stop shots. A keeper's hurley wouldn't be practical for the other players on the field who spend more time swinging.

Yeah, shot stopping wouldn't be the key area for keepers nowadays.  All about picking the ball up aou around the goals and for striking.  Shot stopping is down the list.

You need to stay off the glue marty, too early in the morning for that shite.
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Re: Hurling Needs a heavier sliotar
« Reply #42 on: August 06, 2019, 09:22:27 AM »
Bas size seems to be self-regulating. Too big and it becomes unwieldy, too small and the striking/carrying surface is too small. I'm not sure what problem you're trying to solve by micromanaging the Bas size.

Is it unwieldy for the goal keeper?

A little bit, but that's the trade-off goalies make for a larger surface to stop shots. A keeper's hurley wouldn't be practical for the other players on the field who spend more time swinging.

Yeah, shot stopping wouldn't be the key area for keepers nowadays.  All about picking the ball up aou around the goals and for striking.  Shot stopping is down the list.

You need to stay off the glue marty, too early in the morning for that shite.

Don't take my word for it. David Herrity told me that last year....but I'll bow to YOUR greater knowledge.

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Re: Hurling Needs a heavier sliotar
« Reply #43 on: August 06, 2019, 03:42:18 PM »
Bas size seems to be self-regulating. Too big and it becomes unwieldy, too small and the striking/carrying surface is too small. I'm not sure what problem you're trying to solve by micromanaging the Bas size.

Is it unwieldy for the goal keeper?

A little bit, but that's the trade-off goalies make for a larger surface to stop shots. A keeper's hurley wouldn't be practical for the other players on the field who spend more time swinging.

Yeah, shot stopping wouldn't be the key area for keepers nowadays.  All about picking the ball up aou around the goals and for striking.  Shot stopping is down the list.
a goalie in hurling shouldn't have to save a one on one shot

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Re: Hurling Needs a heavier sliotar
« Reply #44 on: December 10, 2019, 01:51:37 PM »
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/yellow-sliotar-set-to-be-used-in-2020-hurling-championship-1.4110652

Yellow sliotar set to be used in 2020 hurling championship
Reports suggest new ball has passed tests and now just needs approval from Central Council

A yellow sliotar is set to be used in next year’s hurling championship once it is approved at Central Council next month.

A report in the Irish Examiner says an exhaustive eight-year process has led to the expected introduction of the new ball which will incorporate a microchip in its core, allowing officials to scan the ball with a smartphone to ensure it is fit to use.

The ball has been tested in DCU and has also been trialled the last two stagings of the Super 11s as well as the Celtic Challenge in the US.

GAA seeing the light on the new yellow sliotar
With approval now expected at next month’s Central Council meeting, the ball will likely come into use when the Leinster and Munster, Joe McDonagh, Christy Ring, Nicky Rackard and Lory Meagher Cup competitions begin in May.

The ‘smart sliotar’, produced by Kilkenny company Greenfields Digital Sports Technology, will come as a welcome initiative to many who have called for a different colour ball to make it more visible, similar to changes made a number of years ago in tennis.

Speaking on RTÉ earlier this year, Donal Óg Cusack called for a change.

“Tennis used to have a white ball and they changed for really good reasons, some of those being TV,” he said.

“We see now the demographic in Ireland is changing. If someone is watching the game on television and they can’t follow the sliotar it’s a turn off straight away whereas, a luminous ball is much easier to see and it’s scientifically proven that your eye will react faster to it.”
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