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Re: Hurling Championship 2019
« Reply #435 on: August 19, 2019, 11:49:49 AM »
Eoin Larkin reckons nobody deserves to be sent off on All Ireland final day, well probably just Benny Dunne in ‘09

What planet are these lads on?

Are Munster finals and Leinster finals also to be exempt?

What about Gerry Quinn taking a go at Henry in an AI semi-final replay, that's probably OK now as well?

This is a Kilkenny trope .


https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/eddie-keher-s-ideas-have-kick-started-a-debate-on-the-future-of-the-game-1.1687946
"A curious focus in Eddie Keher’s document – which Kilkenny manager Brian Cody praised as “making an awful lot of sense” – which he submitted to the GAA is on red and yellow cards, described in the submission as “totally at variance with the ethos, physicality and manliness of the game of hurling

Hurling was never a cynical game,” he writes, “but it is now starting to become one due to the unjust penalties imposed for fouls by players full of honest endeavour. With the introduction of all these restrictions and penalties and now the proposed introduction of ‘black cards’ for hurlers the players are appearing to be treated and regarded as the ‘bad guys’ of our games.”

https://www.rte.ie/sport/hurling/2014/0217/504912-keher/
"Speaking on RTÉ Radio's Today with Sean O'Rourke, Keher outlined his frustration about what he calls the needless rituals of showing cards.
He said: "I never agreed with use of cards. They were introduced in 1970 in the soccer World Cup which was a wise decision because of the language barrier.
"It enabled referees to communicate better with the players of various countries.
"I abhor the whole ritual of showing cards to our hurlers.  It’s a pompous and triumphalist exercise causing humiliation to our great players in front of their families, friends and supporters."

But sending other players off is fine
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Re: Hurling Championship 2019
« Reply #436 on: August 19, 2019, 12:11:05 PM »
So basically championship matches should be like the fabled Kilkenny training session matches then. No real need for referees in inter-County hurling games. I think Eddie played a fairly long time ago & it shows.


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Re: Hurling Championship 2019
« Reply #438 on: August 19, 2019, 01:44:54 PM »
I find it irritating commentators, pundits, journalists referring to John O Dwyer as bubbles. Bubbles this and bubbles that, feck off, shower of eggits.

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« Reply #439 on: August 19, 2019, 02:22:00 PM »
A well merited win for Tipp in the end.  They looked the most likely winners the longer the 1st half progressed, albeit after a poor enough start.  The sending off only increased the winning margin and the most surprising aspect of the 2nd half was how poorly KK coped being a man down - raining balls down on that Tipp FB line was desperation stuff at best.

Richie Hogan cant have too many complaints - it was a stonewall Red card.  Barrett should have picked up a yellow a little earlier also.

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Re: Hurling Championship 2019
« Reply #440 on: August 19, 2019, 04:01:47 PM »
It's a pity that it is all over in the middle of August
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« Reply #441 on: August 19, 2019, 04:41:34 PM »
I thought it was a fair shoulder (at least it would have been before we had high definition tv and cameras everywhere!)
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« Reply #442 on: August 19, 2019, 05:08:27 PM »
I find it irritating commentators, pundits, journalists referring to John O Dwyer as bubbles. Bubbles this and bubbles that, feck off, shower of eggits.

I have no problem when they use nicknames as long as they don't combine both the nickname and full name.

John O'Dwyer - fine
Bubbles O'Dwyer - fine
John Bubbles O'Dwyer - gtfo.

It was the same with Cha Fitzpatrick before he chucked it in.
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« Reply #443 on: August 19, 2019, 05:26:47 PM »
I thought it was a fair shoulder (at least it would have been before we had high definition tv and cameras everywhere!)

Isn’t it good to have hi def TV and cameras or the referee would have been slaughtered by the press and public today

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« Reply #444 on: August 19, 2019, 05:29:06 PM »
I find it irritating commentators, pundits, journalists referring to John O Dwyer as bubbles. Bubbles this and bubbles that, feck off, shower of eggits.

I have no problem when they use nicknames as long as they don't combine both the nickname and full name.

John O'Dwyer - fine
Bubbles O'Dwyer - fine
John Bubbles O'Dwyer - gtfo.

It was the same with Cha Fitzpatrick before he chucked it in.

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Re: Hurling Championship 2019
« Reply #445 on: August 19, 2019, 05:51:04 PM »
Does anyone have an opinion about Hawkeye and the point awarded to Kilkenny yesterday? Why does the caption used to award the score not show the position of the ball in relation to to crossbar at the point where Hogan actually caught the sliothar? With all the cameras at the game, isn't it strange not to have one positioned along the end line where everyone could see whether or not the point was scored!

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Re: Hurling Championship 2019
« Reply #446 on: August 19, 2019, 06:24:21 PM »
Does anyone have an opinion about Hawkeye and the point awarded to Kilkenny yesterday? Why does the caption used to award the score not show the position of the ball in relation to to crossbar at the point where Hogan actually caught the sliothar? With all the cameras at the game, isn't it strange not to have one positioned along the end line where everyone could see whether or not the point was scored!

Would the 2 uprights not get in the way of getting a proper view?

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Re: Hurling Championship 2019
« Reply #447 on: August 19, 2019, 08:44:52 PM »
Does anyone have an opinion about Hawkeye and the point awarded to Kilkenny yesterday? Why does the caption used to award the score not show the position of the ball in relation to to crossbar at the point where Hogan actually caught the sliothar? With all the cameras at the game, isn't it strange not to have one positioned along the end line where everyone could see whether or not the point was scored!

I’d like to see that visually rather through Hawkeye’s view! A whole hand with ball completely behind the post!
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Re: Hurling Championship 2019
« Reply #448 on: August 19, 2019, 08:59:03 PM »
I presume Hawkeye reacts when any part of the ball goes past the back of the crossbar, or the goal-line for that matter.

The official guide is not clear - it just says a point is scored "...when the ball is played over the crossbar..."

Should it say "all of the ball must be over the line or crossbar for a score?  Like the soccer? 

American football awards a touchdown when the front of the ball breaks the front edge of the line.

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« Reply #449 on: August 19, 2019, 09:03:59 PM »
They have 2 hawkeye systems they can use on match days. One is to check if the ball has gone between the posts and the other is to check if the ball has gone over the crossbar and been pulled back