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Re: Elections North and South
« Reply #225 on: May 15, 2019, 12:24:10 PM »
Co-opting. Jobs for the boys/girls. If you're a good little boy or girl and do what the Felon's club tells you, you'll get a cushey MLA number.

Or the Durkans in Derry or Dallats in Causeway or the Paisleys, Poots and Robinsons etc. etc....all the same in every political party.

It's definitely not the same in every political party.

I see there is an issue with postal votes for the European elections in NI. Be interesting to see if this has an effect on percentage vote share....

Nonsense. Of course it is! Newly elected SDLP councillor Mary Durkan in Derry. Im sure it's just coincidence she's Mark Hs sister and Marks neice. Same with the Robinsons in the DUP and the Trimbles in the UUP.
That's newly elected Mary Durkan the practicing barrister, who has been involved in politics forever, and who was the poll topper in the QUB Student Union president election back in 2001?  I don't get why you think there's nepotism - Mary doesn't need the role of councillor, given her successful career, and was elected fair and square. 

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« Reply #226 on: May 15, 2019, 01:12:27 PM »
Co-opting. Jobs for the boys/girls. If you're a good little boy or girl and do what the Felon's club tells you, you'll get a cushey MLA number.

Or the Durkans in Derry or Dallats in Causeway or the Paisleys, Poots and Robinsons etc. etc....all the same in every political party.

It's definitely not the same in every political party.

I see there is an issue with postal votes for the European elections in NI. Be interesting to see if this has an effect on percentage vote share....

Nonsense. Of course it is! Newly elected SDLP councillor Mary Durkan in Derry. Im sure it's just coincidence she's Mark Hs sister and Marks neice. Same with the Robinsons in the DUP and the Trimbles in the UUP.

Iíll ask you the same question that Marty34 is unwilling to answer - which of these have been co opted?

Durkan was ran in the foyleside dea, it's as good as co opting. Be like running an unknown SF candidate in Black mountain.

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« Reply #227 on: May 15, 2019, 01:55:24 PM »
Co-opting. Jobs for the boys/girls. If you're a good little boy or girl and do what the Felon's club tells you, you'll get a cushey MLA number.

Or the Durkans in Derry or Dallats in Causeway or the Paisleys, Poots and Robinsons etc. etc....all the same in every political party.

It's definitely not the same in every political party.

I see there is an issue with postal votes for the European elections in NI. Be interesting to see if this has an effect on percentage vote share....

Nonsense. Of course it is! Newly elected SDLP councillor Mary Durkan in Derry. Im sure it's just coincidence she's Mark Hs sister and Marks neice. Same with the Robinsons in the DUP and the Trimbles in the UUP.

Iíll ask you the same question that Marty34 is unwilling to answer - which of these have been co opted?

Durkan was ran in the foyleside dea, it's as good as co opting. Be like running an unknown SF candidate in Black mountain.

Flimsy

The woman ran in her local area, at the most junior level, having served in the party for years and having established herself professionally and then was elected by the public. Not co opted

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Re: Elections North and South
« Reply #228 on: May 15, 2019, 02:06:05 PM »
Anyone guess who'll be elected in the various constituencies in the 26? Mairead McGuinness will prob top the poll in Midlands/North/West. Apart from that???
McGuinness and Carthy should get back anyway.
Hopefully Ming before that Casey fella.
FFrs will surely expect to take a seat .
Don't know enough about the other 2 areas.
There's a plethora of loonylefts in Dublin which will I'm sure eat into the SF vote but will they come back in transfers?
If SF do badly they'll have to reconsider their Queen's position.
1 BIG CUP and 1 Cupeen so far....

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« Reply #229 on: May 15, 2019, 03:21:13 PM »
Politics in nepotism and jobs for the boys shocker.....



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« Reply #230 on: May 15, 2019, 03:21:17 PM »
Co-opting. Jobs for the boys/girls. If you're a good little boy or girl and do what the Felon's club tells you, you'll get a cushey MLA number.

Or the Durkans in Derry or Dallats in Causeway or the Paisleys, Poots and Robinsons etc. etc....all the same in every political party.

It's definitely not the same in every political party.

I see there is an issue with postal votes for the European elections in NI. Be interesting to see if this has an effect on percentage vote share....

It's exactly the same in most political parties - co-opted or standinging for the first time.

Durkan in Derry...mmmm...nepotism and all the rest, Maskeys in Belfast, Poots and Robinsons in Belfast.  Family name means a lot on the poster regardless.

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« Reply #231 on: May 15, 2019, 04:58:47 PM »
Co-opting. Jobs for the boys/girls. If you're a good little boy or girl and do what the Felon's club tells you, you'll get a cushey MLA number.

Or the Durkans in Derry or Dallats in Causeway or the Paisleys, Poots and Robinsons etc. etc....all the same in every political party.

It's definitely not the same in every political party.

I see there is an issue with postal votes for the European elections in NI. Be interesting to see if this has an effect on percentage vote share....

It's exactly the same in most political parties - co-opted or standinging for the first time.

Durkan in Derry...mmmm...nepotism and all the rest, Maskeys in Belfast, Poots and Robinsons in Belfast.  Family name means a lot on the poster regardless.

Last sentence is probably true but thatís democracy. Co opting is not the same is it? The electorate donít have role to play in co opting do they?

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« Reply #232 on: May 15, 2019, 05:06:21 PM »
Anyone guess who'll be elected in the various constituencies in the 26? Mairead McGuinness will prob top the poll in Midlands/North/West. Apart from that???
McGuinness and Carthy should get back anyway.
Hopefully Ming before that Casey fella.
FFrs will surely expect to take a seat .
Don't know enough about the other 2 areas.
There's a plethora of loonylefts in Dublin which will I'm sure eat into the SF vote but will they come back in transfers?
If SF do badly they'll have to reconsider their Queen's position.

Queen Mary Lou?
The woman in red has the car parked on the slope.

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« Reply #233 on: May 15, 2019, 05:08:45 PM »
Yep Farr.
1 BIG CUP and 1 Cupeen so far....

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« Reply #234 on: May 15, 2019, 05:49:45 PM »
Co-opting. Jobs for the boys/girls. If you're a good little boy or girl and do what the Felon's club tells you, you'll get a cushey MLA number.

Or the Durkans in Derry or Dallats in Causeway or the Paisleys, Poots and Robinsons etc. etc....all the same in every political party.

It's definitely not the same in every political party.

I see there is an issue with postal votes for the European elections in NI. Be interesting to see if this has an effect on percentage vote share....

It's exactly the same in most political parties - co-opted or standinging for the first time.

Durkan in Derry...mmmm...nepotism and all the rest, Maskeys in Belfast, Poots and Robinsons in Belfast.  Family name means a lot on the poster regardless.

Last sentence is probably true but thatís democracy. Co opting is not the same is it? The electorate donít have role to play in co opting do they?

A Durkan in Foyleside???? As good as co-opting.

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« Reply #235 on: May 15, 2019, 08:14:09 PM »
Anyone guess who'll be elected in the various constituencies in the 26? Mairead McGuinness will prob top the poll in Midlands/North/West. Apart from that???
Mairťad McGuinness
Ming
Brendan Smith
Carthy or Casey. People are copping on to Carthyís co-option party trick.

Ireland South:
SeŠn Kelly
Liadh NŪ Riada
Billy Kelleher
Clune/ Smith
Byrne

Dublin:
Fitzgerald
Andrews
Boylan
Iíve a funny feeling that Cuffe will get the last one.

IMHO, of course. I may be proven to be wrong.

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« Reply #236 on: May 15, 2019, 09:47:12 PM »
Co-opting. Jobs for the boys/girls. If you're a good little boy or girl and do what the Felon's club tells you, you'll get a cushey MLA number.

Or the Durkans in Derry or Dallats in Causeway or the Paisleys, Poots and Robinsons etc. etc....all the same in every political party.

It's definitely not the same in every political party.

I see there is an issue with postal votes for the European elections in NI. Be interesting to see if this has an effect on percentage vote share....

It's exactly the same in most political parties - co-opted or standinging for the first time.

Durkan in Derry...mmmm...nepotism and all the rest, Maskeys in Belfast, Poots and Robinsons in Belfast.  Family name means a lot on the poster regardless.

Last sentence is probably true but thatís democracy. Co opting is not the same is it? The electorate donít have role to play in co opting do they?

A Durkan in Foyleside???? As good as co-opting.

Bunkum.  There were 3 SDLP candidates and 2 SDLP quotas. Voters had a choice and voted strongly for Mary Durian.  Nothing like a co option.  A simple case of offering voters choice.

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« Reply #237 on: May 15, 2019, 09:48:56 PM »
Co-opting. Jobs for the boys/girls. If you're a good little boy or girl and do what the Felon's club tells you, you'll get a cushey MLA number.

Or the Durkans in Derry or Dallats in Causeway or the Paisleys, Poots and Robinsons etc. etc....all the same in every political party.

It's definitely not the same in every political party.

I see there is an issue with postal votes for the European elections in NI. Be interesting to see if this has an effect on percentage vote share....

It's exactly the same in most political parties - co-opted or standinging for the first time.

Durkan in Derry...mmmm...nepotism and all the rest, Maskeys in Belfast, Poots and Robinsons in Belfast.  Family name means a lot on the poster regardless.

Last sentence is probably true but thatís democracy. Co opting is not the same is it? The electorate donít have role to play in co opting do they?

A Durkan in Foyleside???? As good as co-opting.
Do you see any difference between Maoliosa McHugh being rejected by the electorate at council level and then being foisted on the electorate, without a vote at the higher MLA level and on the other hand Mary Durkan stand for election in her local area and succeeding?

Do you see any difference between some kid with no life, work or public service experience being co opted in and say a proven party official and established professional running for election in her local area and securing electoral approval?

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« Reply #238 on: May 15, 2019, 11:37:14 PM »
https://sluggerotoole.com/2019/05/15/ni-european-election-data-modelling-exercise/

Very interesting. The takeaway is that long is best placed for the 3rd seat from a remain point of view. I think I'll transfer to her, she's a good politician.

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« Reply #239 on: May 15, 2019, 11:43:25 PM »
Anyone guess who'll be elected in the various constituencies in the 26? Mairead McGuinness will prob top the poll in Midlands/North/West. Apart from that???
Mairťad McGuinness
Ming
Brendan Smith
Carthy or Casey. People are copping on to Carthyís co-option party trick.

Ireland South:
SeŠn Kelly
Liadh NŪ Riada
Billy Kelleher
Clune/ Smith
Byrne

Dublin:
Fitzgerald
Andrews
Boylan
Iíve a funny feeling that Cuffe will get the last one.

IMHO, of course. I may be proven to be wrong.
Only 4 seats in South and 3 in Dublin. Other seats suspended because the British are still there.