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Boeing 737 max
« on: March 11, 2019, 12:13:20 PM »
You arrive at the airport and find out that the plane you're due to fly on is a Boeing 737 max and the airline is one of those remaining that have not suspended it from the fleet.
What do you do?

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Re: Boeing 737 max
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2019, 12:24:09 PM »
Turn on your heels or ask for a glass of Milk they used to give B.A from the A-team before flying.

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Re: Boeing 737 max
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2019, 12:31:07 PM »
Flew in one on Norwegian Air a couple of months ago. :o :(

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Re: Boeing 737 max
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2019, 12:37:05 PM »
Flew in one on Norwegian Air a couple of months ago. :o :(

Not this one I hope  :D

https://simpleflying.com/norwegian-boeing-737-is-stuck-in-iran-after-in-flight-fault/

The (737)jet took off from Dubai last night on a normal flight back to Norway, when the 2-month-old plane experience engine trouble. It had to perform an emergency descent from 32,000 feet to land at Shiraz International Airport, Iran.
They had to circle many times to burn/dump fuel and shut down one of their engines.

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Re: Boeing 737 max
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2019, 12:41:52 PM »
When I heard about the Ethiopia Airlines disaster I was expecting it to be some 40 year old hen house. Who is at fault here? Normally itís pilot error and Iím no aviation expert but it doesnít look good for Boeing that this is the second air disaster involving these planes in under 6 months.

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Re: Boeing 737 max
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2019, 12:51:56 PM »
Flew in one on Norwegian Air a couple of months ago. :o :(

Not this one I hope  :D

https://simpleflying.com/norwegian-boeing-737-is-stuck-in-iran-after-in-flight-fault/

The (737)jet took off from Dubai last night on a normal flight back to Norway, when the 2-month-old plane experience engine trouble. It had to perform an emergency descent from 32,000 feet to land at Shiraz International Airport, Iran.
They had to circle many times to burn/dump fuel and shut down one of their engines.


Fortunately, no. :)

Norwegian does a budget flight from Newburgh, about an hour north of NYC, to Dublin.

But it was definitely a 737 Max that day.

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Re: Boeing 737 max
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2019, 12:54:35 PM »
When I heard about the Ethiopia Airlines disaster I was expecting it to be some 40 year old hen house. Who is at fault here? Normally itís pilot error and Iím no aviation expert but it doesnít look good for Boeing that this is the second air disaster involving these planes in under 6 months.

That's 2 disasters plus all the incidents that you don't hear about.
Looks like Boeing's findings into what caused the first disaster was either erroneous or there are more serious faults.

Boeing is said to be warning its 737 Max customers about erroneous cockpit readings that could make the passenger jet 'aggressively dive'
https://www.businessinsider.com/boeing-warning-737-max-customers-about-erroneous-cockpit-readings-2018-11?r=US&IR=T

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Re: Boeing 737 max
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2019, 12:56:17 PM »
When I heard about the Ethiopia Airlines disaster I was expecting it to be some 40 year old hen house. Who is at fault here? Normally itís pilot error and Iím no aviation expert but it doesnít look good for Boeing that this is the second air disaster involving these planes in under 6 months.

Early to speculate but there do seem to be similarities with the Lion Air crash. Issues with a new anti-stall piece of software were referenced in the first crash.  I think Boeing were due to or had already issued a software update. Radar/reports from yesterday appears to indicate similar trends.

Awful tragedy.

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Re: Boeing 737 max
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2019, 12:56:35 PM »
There were two experts on the Sean O 'Rourke show on Rte Radio 1 who were worth a listen, I'm sure it's available online 

Edit: https://www.rte.ie/radio1/today-with-sean-o-rourke/programmes/2019/0311/1035689-today-with-sean-orourke-monday-11-march-2019/?clipid=103062638#103062638
« Last Edit: March 11, 2019, 01:52:55 PM by Boycey »

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Re: Boeing 737 max
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2019, 01:59:13 PM »
Any chance the 737's computer is called Hal 9000?

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Re: Boeing 737 max
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2019, 04:42:07 PM »
When I heard about the Ethiopia Airlines disaster I was expecting it to be some 40 year old hen house. Who is at fault here? Normally itís pilot error and Iím no aviation expert but it doesnít look good for Boeing that this is the second air disaster involving these planes in under 6 months.

Sounds like you need to update your impressions of Ethiopia.

"Ethiopia is Africa's fastest-growing economy




Ethiopiaís rise has been largely driven by an increase in industrial activity, including investments in infrastructure and manufacturing.

A recent research paper suggests Ethiopia can be the new China, because it has been improving its road and rail connections, and has good air connections. In addition, the reportís authors say that Ethiopia has a stable administration that sees manufacturing as a central part of its growth strategy."

Full story: https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/05/ethiopia-africa-fastest-growing-economy/

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Re: Boeing 737 max
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2019, 04:58:03 PM »
I see Norweigan Air have grounded its fleet - they fly Dublin - New York

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Re: Boeing 737 max
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2019, 05:01:54 PM »
More like the Irish Aviation Authority took the decision for them.

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Re: Boeing 737 max
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2019, 06:30:21 PM »
Europe wide ban now for the 737s,  but declared safe in the USA,  lucky buggers those Americans.

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Re: Boeing 737 max
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2019, 06:42:59 PM »
Europe wide ban now for the 737s,  but declared safe in the USA,  lucky buggers those Americans.

One wonders what the response would have been to an Airbus plane?