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Re: Serious financial irregularities in Galway
« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2019, 11:41:50 AM »
Was there any follow up on this issue, any court case set?

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Re: Serious financial irregularities in Galway
« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2019, 12:57:30 PM »
Don't know.
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Re: Serious financial irregularities in Galway
« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2019, 10:58:54 AM »
That's what happens when the GAA pours excessive amounts of s into their monster favourite child.
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Re: Serious financial irregularities in Galway
« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2019, 11:01:34 AM »
That's what happens when the GAA pours excessive amounts of s into their monster favourite child.

Like Corks new stadium, i agree.

I wouldnt say this is anything new, probably going on for decades in all counties. A lot of skeletons in the closet.

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Re: Serious financial irregularities in Galway
« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2019, 11:23:39 AM »
Very surprised nobody has commented on this issue, a serious breach of accountability that reflects badly on how Galway GAA and Hurling is run, off the pitch.
This was well covered at the time it broke as a story - it wouldn't have been unexpected for those even with a passing knowledge of the rumours beforehand in Galway - so maybe you just missed it at that time, it's old news for a lot of people.

Dubs can't be blamed is the obvious reason. As Pricey is so obsessed at how Dublin spend GAA money you'd think he/she would be furious at what has been going on (and still hasn't been resolved) in relation to the spending in Galway. County Board members should not have credit cards should be rule no 1 in Galway for starters
It's a certainly a very poor reflection of the financial (and otherwise) ineptitude of some of the most senior people involved in Galway GAA administration and why you would want to drag Dublin into this issue (besides making a stark contrast with the extremely professionally run Dublin county board to Galway's or having some form of a persecution complex) is beyond me.
I'm hopeful that longer term this will be a Rubicon crossing of sorts for Galway GAA but who knows in truth.

That's what happens when a county board doesn't employ a full time person to look after finances and day to day matters.
I think this is a key issue also with respect to competency, not all of the people at senior county board positions - who to be fair give a huge amount of time and effort to the association - have the ability that is required to excel at that level, that's just a fact of life.
Things can improve though, look at Mayo's fundraising efforts for this years New York trip compared to 5 years previously, they are not going in with the biscuit tins this time around.

That's the key point, though, big counties can't afford NOT to have a full time administrator running finances anymore. The money is too big for volunteers to manage, even if some have the skillset to do it.

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Re: Serious financial irregularities in Galway
« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2019, 12:06:28 PM »
Some difference in revenue between 2017 & 2018, Galways was about 1.2m more in 2018, now some of the increases are easily explained whilst some are just baffling and its hard not to point the finger.

Its just ridiculous that an organisation that has generates revenue of about 5 million didn't have any full time administrator overseeing finances.


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Re: Serious financial irregularities in Galway
« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2019, 12:53:31 PM »
Some difference in revenue between 2017 & 2018, Galways was about 1.2m more in 2018, now some of the increases are easily explained whilst some are just baffling and its hard not to point the finger.

Its just ridiculous that an organisation that has generates revenue of about 5 million didn't have any full time administrator overseeing finances.
Agreed
It's time for full time administrators in most counties, in fact some counties could share one. E.g. longford/westmeath

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Re: Serious financial irregularities in Galway
« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2019, 12:57:59 PM »
Salaries paid by Croke Park.
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Re: Serious financial irregularities in Galway
« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2019, 12:59:00 PM »
Very surprised nobody has commented on this issue, a serious breach of accountability that reflects badly on how Galway GAA and Hurling is run, off the pitch.
This was well covered at the time it broke as a story - it wouldn't have been unexpected for those even with a passing knowledge of the rumours beforehand in Galway - so maybe you just missed it at that time, it's old news for a lot of people.

Dubs can't be blamed is the obvious reason. As Pricey is so obsessed at how Dublin spend GAA money you'd think he/she would be furious at what has been going on (and still hasn't been resolved) in relation to the spending in Galway. County Board members should not have credit cards should be rule no 1 in Galway for starters
It's a certainly a very poor reflection of the financial (and otherwise) ineptitude of some of the most senior people involved in Galway GAA administration and why you would want to drag Dublin into this issue (besides making a stark contrast with the extremely professionally run Dublin county board to Galway's or having some form of a persecution complex) is beyond me.
I'm hopeful that longer term this will be a Rubicon crossing of sorts for Galway GAA but who knows in truth.

That's what happens when a county board doesn't employ a full time person to look after finances and day to day matters.
I think this is a key issue also with respect to competency, not all of the people at senior county board positions - who to be fair give a huge amount of time and effort to the association - have the ability that is required to excel at that level, that's just a fact of life.
Things can improve though, look at Mayo's fundraising efforts for this years New York trip compared to 5 years previously, they are not going in with the biscuit tins this time around.

That's the key point, though, big counties can't afford NOT to have a full time administrator running finances anymore. The money is too big for volunteers to manage, even if some have the skillset to do it.
I agree entirely, the highest standards of governance and competency is what everyone should want in place.

Interested to see what will result from this unprecedented intervention from a main sponsor, McDonagh is a shrewd businessman and he is not giving Galway GAA sponsorship money just out of some purely personal largesse. The timing of this is very, very curious particularly as these questions about Galway GAA finances are not revelations that have just come to light this week.
Certainly it would be better in the long term for Galway if there was a full reckoning now regardless.

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Re: Serious financial irregularities in Galway
« Reply #25 on: October 02, 2019, 01:01:53 PM »
Salaries paid by Croke Park.

If you are taking in millions in income you shouldn't need Croke Park to pay the salary. County Board should be sensible enough to make that decision themselves.

In the case of Galway it seems based on comments from the new treasurer what went on was far more sinister than just a case of board members simply being out of their depth

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Re: Serious financial irregularities in Galway
« Reply #26 on: October 02, 2019, 01:29:27 PM »
Some difference in revenue between 2017 & 2018, Galways was about 1.2m more in 2018, now some of the increases are easily explained whilst some are just baffling and its hard not to point the finger.

Its just ridiculous that an organisation that has generates revenue of about 5 million didn't have any full time administrator overseeing finances.

Mark Gottsche was appointed finance and operations manager for Galway GAA in July. Bit late to have effect on the years prior to his arrival into the job though but badly needed going forward.

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Re: Serious financial irregularities in Galway
« Reply #27 on: October 02, 2019, 02:07:34 PM »
Some difference in revenue between 2017 & 2018, Galways was about 1.2m more in 2018, now some of the increases are easily explained whilst some are just baffling and its hard not to point the finger.

Its just ridiculous that an organisation that has generates revenue of about 5 million didn't have any full time administrator overseeing finances.

Mark Gottsche was appointed finance and operations manager for Galway GAA in July. Bit late to have effect on the years prior to his arrival into the job though but badly needed going forward.

You'd think he'd be keener than most to get the old dirty washing out in public and draw a line under it but knowing the way County Boards work (or don't in most cases) there'd be plenty of lads still in positions of power not wanting anything to come out especially if there was more than just piss poor mismanagement going on.


WRT the full time secretaries in each county, you'd have to wonder what criteria was used for them to be appointed.

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Re: Serious financial irregularities in Galway
« Reply #28 on: October 02, 2019, 03:41:56 PM »
Very surprised nobody has commented on this issue, a serious breach of accountability that reflects badly on how Galway GAA and Hurling is run, off the pitch.
This was well covered at the time it broke as a story - it wouldn't have been unexpected for those even with a passing knowledge of the rumours beforehand in Galway - so maybe you just missed it at that time, it's old news for a lot of people.

Dubs can't be blamed is the obvious reason. As Pricey is so obsessed at how Dublin spend GAA money you'd think he/she would be furious at what has been going on (and still hasn't been resolved) in relation to the spending in Galway. County Board members should not have credit cards should be rule no 1 in Galway for starters
It's a certainly a very poor reflection of the financial (and otherwise) ineptitude of some of the most senior people involved in Galway GAA administration and why you would want to drag Dublin into this issue (besides making a stark contrast with the extremely professionally run Dublin county board to Galway's or having some form of a persecution complex) is beyond me.
I'm hopeful that longer term this will be a Rubicon crossing of sorts for Galway GAA but who knows in truth.

That's what happens when a county board doesn't employ a full time person to look after finances and day to day matters.
I think this is a key issue also with respect to competency, not all of the people at senior county board positions - who to be fair give a huge amount of time and effort to the association - have the ability that is required to excel at that level, that's just a fact of life.
Things can improve though, look at Mayo's fundraising efforts for this years New York trip compared to 5 years previously, they are not going in with the biscuit tins this time around.

That's the key point, though, big counties can't afford NOT to have a full time administrator running finances anymore. The money is too big for volunteers to manage, even if some have the skillset to do it.
I agree entirely, the highest standards of governance and competency is what everyone should want in place.

Interested to see what will result from this unprecedented intervention from a main sponsor, McDonagh is a shrewd businessman and he is not giving Galway GAA sponsorship money just out of some purely personal largesse. The timing of this is very, very curious particularly as these questions about Galway GAA finances are not revelations that have just come to light this week.
Certainly it would be better in the long term for Galway if there was a full reckoning now regardless.

Clearly more s**t is about to hit the fan and they don't want their good name to be associated with it.

I see Chill insurance pay 400k a year to sponsor both Cork teams as a comparison.




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Re: Serious financial irregularities in Galway
« Reply #29 on: October 02, 2019, 04:41:11 PM »
Very surprised nobody has commented on this issue, a serious breach of accountability that reflects badly on how Galway GAA and Hurling is run, off the pitch.
This was well covered at the time it broke as a story - it wouldn't have been unexpected for those even with a passing knowledge of the rumours beforehand in Galway - so maybe you just missed it at that time, it's old news for a lot of people.

Dubs can't be blamed is the obvious reason. As Pricey is so obsessed at how Dublin spend GAA money you'd think he/she would be furious at what has been going on (and still hasn't been resolved) in relation to the spending in Galway. County Board members should not have credit cards should be rule no 1 in Galway for starters
It's a certainly a very poor reflection of the financial (and otherwise) ineptitude of some of the most senior people involved in Galway GAA administration and why you would want to drag Dublin into this issue (besides making a stark contrast with the extremely professionally run Dublin county board to Galway's or having some form of a persecution complex) is beyond me.
I'm hopeful that longer term this will be a Rubicon crossing of sorts for Galway GAA but who knows in truth.

That's what happens when a county board doesn't employ a full time person to look after finances and day to day matters.
I think this is a key issue also with respect to competency, not all of the people at senior county board positions - who to be fair give a huge amount of time and effort to the association - have the ability that is required to excel at that level, that's just a fact of life.
Things can improve though, look at Mayo's fundraising efforts for this years New York trip compared to 5 years previously, they are not going in with the biscuit tins this time around.

That's the key point, though, big counties can't afford NOT to have a full time administrator running finances anymore. The money is too big for volunteers to manage, even if some have the skillset to do it.
I agree entirely, the highest standards of governance and competency is what everyone should want in place.

Interested to see what will result from this unprecedented intervention from a main sponsor, McDonagh is a shrewd businessman and he is not giving Galway GAA sponsorship money just out of some purely personal largesse. The timing of this is very, very curious particularly as these questions about Galway GAA finances are not revelations that have just come to light this week.
Certainly it would be better in the long term for Galway if there was a full reckoning now regardless.

Clearly more s**t is about to hit the fan and they don't want their good name to be associated with it.

I see Chill insurance pay 400k a year to sponsor both Cork teams as a comparison.

Official figures or speculation? Might be no harm if all counties disclosed what they are receiving from their sponsors.