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Re: pairc ui chaoimh
« Reply #135 on: March 10, 2019, 07:53:16 PM »
Was less than 500 there for the Derry game earlier in the yr

Probably more Derry fans than Antrim

Yeah, but the new stadium will look nice and sure the high attendances at GAA matches will pay for it!

A nice vanity project!
Better off spending the money on coaching than a white elephant stadium

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« Reply #136 on: March 17, 2019, 02:34:15 PM »
Hope they use it if we travel to Cork for the Div 3 League next year

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Re: pairc ui chaoimh
« Reply #137 on: November 29, 2019, 11:18:58 AM »
1 BIG CUP and 1 Cupeen so far....

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« Reply #138 on: November 29, 2019, 11:50:49 AM »
Nothing like concerts and rugby to earn a few €€€€
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/pairc-ui-chaoimh-may-be-profitable-from-2020-967279.html

If we get concerts. If we get rugby. If we can sell the naming rights. Some spin

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« Reply #139 on: November 29, 2019, 12:05:47 PM »
Nothing like concerts and rugby to earn a few €€€€
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/pairc-ui-chaoimh-may-be-profitable-from-2020-967279.html

Is there an agreement with residents on how many concerts they can have per year ?

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« Reply #140 on: November 29, 2019, 12:41:18 PM »
Are there any/many residents nearby?
1 BIG CUP and 1 Cupeen so far....

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« Reply #141 on: November 29, 2019, 01:12:55 PM »
Are there any/many residents nearby?

Yes. To the north and east is the river, west is industrial and south is residential. Hoewver you can direct punters in from the west

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« Reply #142 on: November 29, 2019, 01:13:14 PM »
Are there any/many residents nearby?

Good point - I'm know sure how close it is to residential areas.

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« Reply #143 on: November 29, 2019, 02:09:33 PM »
Similar to Croke Park

The limit,if any would be in the planning application

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« Reply #144 on: November 29, 2019, 07:30:30 PM »
They have 2 Westlife concerts anyway (God help us!!) Plus an International Rules game in November 2020.
Cork Co Board had a loss of €560k in the last 12 months.
Main contributor Drop of €200k in Club Championships receipts caused by having a more  cramped schedule than before.
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« Reply #145 on: December 17, 2019, 06:40:42 PM »
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Audit and risk group claims Cork GAA figures ‘misleading’Audit and risk group claims Cork GAA figures ‘misleading’

By Michael Moynihan
Staff writer

Tuesday, December 17, 2019 - 12:00 AM
The Cork County Board’s audit and risk sub-committee has threatened to resign after advising the board executive to inform last week’s annual convention that the board’s deficit is more than €2.4m — and not the €560,000 figure given to delegates.

Documents seen by the Irish Examiner show the audit and risk sub-committee describe the “decision not to present the overall combined financial position to the convention” as a decision which “questions the fundamental integrity of the Cork County Board”.

The sub-committee issued a report to the county board management committee on December 4 stating it had met five times. “Key Executives (county board CEO/secretary and treasurer) also attended certain meetings,” the report said.

The report stated the sub-committee’s main concern was the “overall level of completeness and transparency being reflected in the 2019 Financial Statements as it excludes the 2019 Financial Statements of the two subsidiary companies, namely Páirc Uí Chaoimh CTR and Stáid Cois Laoi CTR.”

The report states that the sub-committee “believes it is imperative that the complete, albeit estimated, combined financial position of the Cork County Board is articulated to delegates at the County Convention on 8th December 2019. The (sub-)committee’s position on this has been outlined to the Key Executives.”

The sub-committee then outlines the combined loss of the subsidiaries as “in excess of €2.4m” based on the board loss of €0.56m, “the first year of the recharge for the stadium from Cork County Board to Páirc Uí Chaoimh CTR (€1.36m) and the financial losses of the two subsidiaries, which we understand to be in excess of the losses incurred in 2018 (€0.47m).

To leave delegates with the impression that the financial losses are as low as €0.56m would, in our view, be misleading.

The report adds: “Failure to outline the combined position would, in the view of the (sub-)Committee, present a very significant risk to the reputation of the Cork County Board with its key stakeholders and the wider GAA community as has been demonstrated recently in other organisations. Furthermore, it has the potential to damage the brand and to endanger future funding from Government, business, and individuals.

“It is the view of the committee that a decision not to present the overall combined financial position to the convention questions the fundamental integrity of the Cork County Board.

“If a fair, accurate, and complete financial position is not communicated appropriately then the relevance and effectiveness of this committee must be questioned.”

The combined figure was not presented to delegates, which led the sub-committee to write to the board again on December 11.

That letter stated the sub-committee had “issued a report to you via the CEO/Secretary on 4th December (see attached) which we now understand not all of you received.

"It is a matter of the gravest concern that you were not made aware of the report and that the issues outlined in that report were not actioned at the Convention on 8th December 2019 as specifically requested ... the financial statements that were presented at the Convention did not represent fairly and completely the financial position of the Cork County Board.”

The letter adds: “The decision to disregard our report puts this committee in an invidious position and has called into question its relevance and effectiveness. Consequently, the logical course of action is to resign.

"However recognising the potential reputational damage to the Cork County Board by its Audit and Risk Committee being forced to resign, we request the Management Committee to recite the matter by 28th January 2020.”

The executive is expected to try to meet with the members of the sub-committee to try to resolve the situation. The audit and risk committee was approved by the executive on September 24 and by the county committee on October 1.

It is made up of Gerard Lyons, (chair) retired audit partner from Deloitte; Ciarán Murphy, former emeritus dean of Cork University Business School and current emeritus professor of Business Information Systems at UCC; Róisín O’Sullivan, audit associate director at KPMG and Mourneabbey ladies footballer; and Michael Harte, chief financial officer at Dairygold and member of Douglas GAA Club.

Further issues with the finances in Cork - looking at the makeup of this committee, their statement and their threat to resign en masse, it doesn't really inspire all that much confidence that just because Frank is gone that the culture of secrecy and pulling strokes has been done away with.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/audit-and-risk-group-claims-cork-gaa-figures-misleading-970853.html

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« Reply #146 on: December 17, 2019, 10:36:59 PM »
Hardstation's question goes to the heart of the matter. The extra £32m required will obviously not be coming from the GAA and the idea that a civil servant might sign it off is fanciful. Without a Stormont executive, the Ulster Council may have see what could be built with the original £77m which was allocated and presumably remains in place. A 25,000 capacity stadium, possibly with two main stands and terraced areas at either end, would be brilliant for Antrim and may yet have to fit the bill at provincial level if the planning permission ever comes through.

Not even 25,000.

One seated stand (replacing existing stand).

Roof over the terrace on the far side.

Leave the two ends as uncovered terrace.


So you have a covered seating area, a covered standing area - and the two ends for the one (?) or two (?) times in the summer that the capacity might be needed.

Then take the money saved, write a cheque - and hand it to the RVH.
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« Reply #147 on: December 17, 2019, 11:43:54 PM »
Hardstation's question goes to the heart of the matter. The extra £32m required will obviously not be coming from the GAA and the idea that a civil servant might sign it off is fanciful. Without a Stormont executive, the Ulster Council may have see what could be built with the original £77m which was allocated and presumably remains in place. A 25,000 capacity stadium, possibly with two main stands and terraced areas at either end, would be brilliant for Antrim and may yet have to fit the bill at provincial level if the planning permission ever comes through.

Not even 25,000.

One seated stand (replacing existing stand).

Roof over the terrace on the far side.

Leave the two ends as uncovered terrace.


So you have a covered seating area, a covered standing area - and the two ends for the one (?) or two (?) times in the summer that the capacity might be needed.

Then take the money saved, write a cheque - and hand it to the RVH.

This money was not for Antrim, it was for all GAA people in the 6 counties, many of whom do actually attend games.
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« Reply #148 on: December 18, 2019, 08:35:21 PM »
This money was not for Antrim, it was for all GAA people in the 6 counties, many of whom do actually attend games.

Most of whom have no need to have games in Casement given there are half a dozen other stadia around the province (and 3 other good ones in the North).

A lot of GAA people, or their families, in the 6 counties will be dependent on services in the RVH. The money would be better spent there than on a white elephant.
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