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Re: What do New York bring to the Championship
« Reply #30 on: April 17, 2019, 06:27:39 PM »
Exactly Seaf and we take Gaelic games (one of them anyway) seriously unlike rich well heeled well populated Leinster.
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Re: What do New York bring to the Championship
« Reply #31 on: April 17, 2019, 07:46:59 PM »
The obvious answer is that Connacht is a small province and without NY and London would be even more horribly lopsided than Leinster

And without them makes it less lopsided? Mayo and Galway will continue to hoover up Connacht titles as they have done for over 100 years. Whenever Ros are strong, they'll get most of the rest. Unfortunately for the other two counties, at least one of the three are usually stronger than them.
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Re: What do New York bring to the Championship
« Reply #32 on: April 17, 2019, 07:49:21 PM »
How many years since Armagh have last won an Ulster Championship game? Or Antrim?

Armagh 2014, Antrim 2009.
That is shocking re Armagh
I wonder how much more time Geezer will get.

Yes itís poor but we got Donegal in 15, Cavan away in 16. Kick of a ball between us and Down in 17, and Fermanagh in 18, less said the better.

We have to be looking at reaching an Ulster final this year. Anything else and Geezer is gone.

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Re: What do New York bring to the Championship
« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2019, 11:09:49 AM »
How many years since Armagh have last won an Ulster Championship game? Or Antrim?

Armagh 2014, Antrim 2009.
That is shocking re Armagh
I wonder how much more time Geezer will get.

Yes itís poor but we got Donegal in 15, Cavan away in 16. Kick of a ball between us and Down in 17, and Fermanagh in 18, less said the better.

We have to be looking at reaching an Ulster final this year. Anything else and Geezer is gone.
But if ye haven't won an Ulster match since 2014 a final this year is a big ask
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Re: What do New York bring to the Championship
« Reply #34 on: April 18, 2019, 12:04:16 PM »
How many years since Armagh have last won an Ulster Championship game? Or Antrim?

Armagh 2014, Antrim 2009.
That is shocking re Armagh
I wonder how much more time Geezer will get.

Yes itís poor but we got Donegal in 15, Cavan away in 16. Kick of a ball between us and Down in 17, and Fermanagh in 18, less said the better.

We have to be looking at reaching an Ulster final this year. Anything else and Geezer is gone.
But if ye haven't won an Ulster match since 2014 a final this year is a big ask

Yes but we are similar level to Down. And probably Monaghan next. Fermanagh beat them last year so who knows? Anyway, Iím not saying we can win Ulster, but we would do well in getting there.

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Re: What do New York bring to the Championship
« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2019, 12:34:32 PM »
The obvious answer is that Connacht is a small province and without NY and London would be even more horribly lopsided than Leinster
Connacht has 3 decent teams unlike Leinster

Roscommon are at the same level as Kildare and Meath. Leitrim are a level below Laois, Longford , Westmeath and Offaly.

Connacht has a good Mayo team and a solid Galway team. Leinster has the greatest team of all time, that's why it's so lopsided, remove the dopers and you have a great championship. They would have any decimated any of the provincial championships in the last 10 years.

 
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Re: What do New York bring to the Championship
« Reply #36 on: April 18, 2019, 01:58:34 PM »
The obvious answer is that Connacht is a small province and without NY and London would be even more horribly lopsided than Leinster
Connacht has 3 decent teams unlike Leinster

Roscommon are at the same level as Kildare and Meath. Leitrim are a level below Laois, Longford , Westmeath and Offaly.

Connacht has a good Mayo team and a solid Galway team. Leinster has the greatest team of all time, that's why it's so lopsided, remove the dopers and you have a great championship. They would have any decimated any of the provincial championships in the last 10 years.

Mayo might have given them a game, but I see where you're coming from. At least there was a bit of momentum getting to the finals and semis they played. That momentum isn't there after winning one game and facing the behemoth.
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Re: What do New York bring to the Championship
« Reply #37 on: April 18, 2019, 02:07:16 PM »
The obvious answer is that Connacht is a small province and without NY and London would be even more horribly lopsided than Leinster
Connacht has 3 decent teams unlike Leinster

Roscommon are at the same level as Kildare and Meath. Leitrim are a level below Laois, Longford , Westmeath and Offaly.

Connacht has a good Mayo team and a solid Galway team. Leinster has the greatest team of all time, that's why it's so lopsided, remove the dopers and you have a great championship. They would have any decimated any of the provincial championships in the last 10 years.
The Dubs have ruined Leinster
Galway, Ros and Mayo have all won Connacht in the last 4 years. A normal Leinster championship would have that kind of variety as well eg 95-98
Maybe when the empire collapses.
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Re: What do New York bring to the Championship
« Reply #38 on: April 18, 2019, 02:23:51 PM »
New York bring a Junket. And in Ireland if there's one thing we loves it's a good old Junket.

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Re: What do New York bring to the Championship
« Reply #39 on: April 18, 2019, 03:53:21 PM »
How dare you imply that the Permanent and Voluntary officers of Cůmhairle Chonnacht  who have to go to NY and London every year are on a junket!!
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Re: What do New York bring to the Championship
« Reply #40 on: April 18, 2019, 05:00:20 PM »
The obvious answer is that Connacht is a small province and without NY and London would be even more horribly lopsided than Leinster
Connacht has 3 decent teams unlike Leinster

Roscommon are at the same level as Kildare and Meath.
Leitrim are a level below Laois, Longford , Westmeath and Offaly.

Connacht has a good Mayo team and a solid Galway team. Leinster has the greatest team of all time, that's why it's so lopsided, remove the dopers and you have a great championship. They would have any decimated any of the provincial championships in the last 10 years.

Is that not part of the problem in Leinster? Kildare,Meath with their pick,resources and in Meath's case tradition of hard to beat and All Ireland titles in the late 90s should be a level above Roscommon. 

2005 to 2012 Dublin were good but not great and they won all bar 1 Leinster senior title. Is there glimmer of hope for more competitive Leinster championship in the years ahead? looking at underage the last few years Meath and Kildare are not letting Dublin have it all their own way.
 

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Re: What do New York bring to the Championship
« Reply #41 on: April 19, 2019, 11:22:56 AM »
Good question. We have the bones of an excellent All-Ireland championship structure with 32 teams including London (which isn't so ridiculous in terms of travel time and at least stands a fighting chance of winning games).

Let New York play an exhibition match every year if its a good moneyspinner. Maybe people in the states then can watch them get hammered by Tyrone or Dublin instead of Mayo and Roscommon for  change, although if it was non-competitive, counties might decide to fly a weaker team out and it might be more of acontest, with some younger player to watch out for or some older names to bring a bit of star quality and brand recognition.

One thing which another of those weird GAA anachronisms is that New York is far from the only city in the US with a GAA community and sufficient clubs to sustain a quasi-County structure. Is it not unfair that NY field a team in the all-Ireland championship, while Chicago, Boston, San Fran, Toronto etc. don't have the opportunity?

A US round robin competition to qualify ?

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Re: What do New York bring to the Championship
« Reply #42 on: April 19, 2019, 11:41:46 AM »
How many years since Armagh have last won an Ulster Championship game? Or Antrim?

Armagh 2014, Antrim 2009.
That is shocking re Armagh
I wonder how much more time Geezer will get.

Yes itís poor but we got Donegal in 15, Cavan away in 16. Kick of a ball between us and Down in 17, and Fermanagh in 18, less said the better.

We have to be looking at reaching an Ulster final this year. Anything else and Geezer is gone.

Unfortunately I doubt thatís even close to true and isnít helped by the county board chairmanís comments before a ball is even kicked.

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Re: What do New York bring to the Championship
« Reply #43 on: April 19, 2019, 12:29:26 PM »
main thing they are bringing this year is an early season ticket famine
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