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Re: Club Championships Jan-Mar 2019
« Reply #30 on: December 21, 2018, 08:13:53 PM »
No problem travelling to Thurles to see the Mullinalaghtas play Crokes. I don't think what province the sod is in has any relevance.

What does piss me off is (off the point, I know) is anytime Longford play Ulster opposition it's an Ulster ref.

Now that I have this out of my system I do hope the crowd won't be lost in such a venue. A tighter venue may have been more appropriate. Can we expect 1,000 from Longford and perhaps a few more than 1,000 from Kerry................in a 40,000 capacity venue?
A lot of people from all over Longford will go to this
And Cavan area along the county boundary

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Re: Club Championships Jan-Mar 2019
« Reply #31 on: January 20, 2019, 08:18:36 PM »
Update 20 Jan.

Senior Football

16 Feb: Corofin (Galway) v Gaoth Dobhair (Donegal) in Carrick-on-Shannon 1:30pm
16 Feb: Dr. Crokes (Kerry) v Mullinalaghta (Longford) in Thurles 3:30pm

March 17: Final in Croke Park

Intermediate Football

20 Jan: St. Enda’s (Antrim) 3-9 An Spidéal (Galway) 0-11
20 Jan: Kilcummin (Kerry) 0-11Two Mile House (Kildare) 0-10

Feb 9: Final St. Enda’s (Antrim) v Kilcummin (Kerry) in Croke Park

Junior Football

20 Jan: Easkey (Sligo) 1-8 Red Hugh’s (Donegal) 0-9
20 Jan: Beaufort (Kerry) 0-12 Young Ireland’s (Louth) 0-10

Feb 9: Final Easkey (Sligo) v Beaufort (Kerry) in Croke Park

Senior Hurling

9 Feb: Ruairí Óg, Cushendall (Antrim) v St. Thomas’s (Galway) in Parnell Park 3pm
9 Feb: Ballygunner (Waterford) v Ballyhale Shamrocks (Kilkenny) in Thurles 5pm

March 17: Final in Croke Park

Intermediate Hurling

19 Jan: Charleville (Cork) 1-15 Graigue-Ballycallan (Kilkenny) 1-13
20 Jan: Oramor-Marree (Galway) 1-13 St. Galls (Antrim) 2-4

Feb 10: Final Charleville (Cork) v Oramor-Marree (Galway) in Croke Park

Junior Hurling

20 Jan: Castleblayney Faughs (Monaghan) 1-8 St. Mary’s Kiltoghert (Leitrim) 0-10
20 Jan: Dunnamaggin (Kilkenny) 0-23 Cloughduv (Cork) 2-16

Feb 10: Final Dunnamaggin (Kilkenny) v Castleblayney Faughs (Monaghan) in Croke Park

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Re: Club Championships Jan-Mar 2019
« Reply #32 on: January 21, 2019, 11:29:46 AM »
If Dr. Crokes win their semi, it would mean 3 Kerry clubs within a 5 mile radius would be in the 3 Club All Ireland finals

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Re: Club Championships Jan-Mar 2019
« Reply #33 on: January 21, 2019, 04:52:45 PM »
If Dr. Crokes win their semi, it would mean 3 Kerry clubs within a 5 mile radius would be in the 3 Club All Ireland finals

Dr Crokes, Kilcummin & Beaufort all in Kerry division 1 league for 2019?
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Re: Club Championships Jan-Mar 2019
« Reply #34 on: January 21, 2019, 08:09:38 PM »
If Dr. Crokes win their semi, it would mean 3 Kerry clubs within a 5 mile radius would be in the 3 Club All Ireland finals

Dr Crokes, Kilcummin & Beaufort all in Kerry division 1 league for 2019?

Beaufort relegated to Div 2 for 2019, Kilcummin promoted to Div 1.

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Re: Club Championships Jan-Mar 2019
« Reply #35 on: January 21, 2019, 09:00:51 PM »
If Dr. Crokes win their semi, it would mean 3 Kerry clubs within a 5 mile radius would be in the 3 Club All Ireland finals

It would be a great achievement if the Kerry Championship was not weighted toward lesser Senior teams meaning they have intermediate and Junior sides that are are higher up the chain than other counties.

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Re: Club Championships Jan-Mar 2019
« Reply #36 on: January 21, 2019, 09:09:23 PM »
If Dr. Crokes win their semi, it would mean 3 Kerry clubs within a 5 mile radius would be in the 3 Club All Ireland finals

Dr Crokes, Kilcummin & Beaufort all in Kerry division 1 league for 2019?

A Junior team in Div 1? They’ll be blown away :D

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Re: Club Championships Jan-Mar 2019
« Reply #37 on: January 21, 2019, 09:22:00 PM »
How many senior clubs are there in Kerry?

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Re: Club Championships Jan-Mar 2019
« Reply #38 on: January 21, 2019, 09:27:10 PM »
How many senior clubs are there in Kerry?

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Re: Club Championships Jan-Mar 2019
« Reply #39 on: January 21, 2019, 11:36:58 PM »
If Dr. Crokes win their semi, it would mean 3 Kerry clubs within a 5 mile radius would be in the 3 Club All Ireland finals

Dr Crokes, Kilcummin & Beaufort all in Kerry division 1 league for 2019?

A Junior team in Div 1? They’ll be blown away :D

Beaufort won 4 games in Div 1 in 2018 (John Mitchels, Glenbeigh-Glencar, Kerins O'Rahillys and Killarney Legion) and had 1 draw (Rathmore).  They finished 3rd from bottom, only a point below Killarney Legion and Dingle.  They suffered their biggest loss of the campaign to Dr. Crokes, going down by 10 points.  Other biggish losses were by 8 (St. Mary's) and 6 (Spa).  Tight losses by 2 to both An Ghaeltacht and Templenoe and a one point loss to Dingle show they were not far away from picking up points.

Although relegated, they were far from blown away.  The fact that they have no county men meant they had a full squad for all league games, barring the usual injuries, players on holidays and suspensions. 


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Re: Club Championships Jan-Mar 2019
« Reply #40 on: January 22, 2019, 12:13:13 AM »
Other counties should take note!

The Kerry system works wonders for finding intercounty players through the Kerry Championship where every decent player gets a chance at Senior football. It also gives the now annual feel good factor for Clubs winning Munster and AI titles in the Junior and intermediate grade. This added to the eligibility of  players to play intercounty Junior - Which Kerry have turned into a sort of under 23 team and have won the last 4 All Irelands in this grade.

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Re: Club Championships Jan-Mar 2019
« Reply #41 on: January 22, 2019, 07:36:23 AM »
If Dr. Crokes win their semi, it would mean 3 Kerry clubs within a 5 mile radius would be in the 3 Club All Ireland finals

Dr Crokes, Kilcummin & Beaufort all in Kerry division 1 league for 2019?

A Junior team in Div 1? They’ll be blown away :D

Beaufort won 4 games in Div 1 in 2018 (John Mitchels, Glenbeigh-Glencar, Kerins O'Rahillys and Killarney Legion) and had 1 draw (Rathmore).  They finished 3rd from bottom, only a point below Killarney Legion and Dingle.  They suffered their biggest loss of the campaign to Dr. Crokes, going down by 10 points.  Other biggish losses were by 8 (St. Mary's) and 6 (Spa).  Tight losses by 2 to both An Ghaeltacht and Templenoe and a one point loss to Dingle show they were not far away from picking up points.

Although relegated, they were far from blown away.  The fact that they have no county men meant they had a full squad for all league games, barring the usual injuries, players on holidays and suspensions.

So Beaufort were in division 1 last year (of an 8 team league) and are playing in the Junior Cship.

Right so.

Sounds fair

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Re: Club Championships Jan-Mar 2019
« Reply #42 on: January 22, 2019, 07:53:55 AM »
If Dr. Crokes win their semi, it would mean 3 Kerry clubs within a 5 mile radius would be in the 3 Club All Ireland finals

Dr Crokes, Kilcummin & Beaufort all in Kerry division 1 league for 2019?

A Junior team in Div 1? They’ll be blown away :D

Beaufort won 4 games in Div 1 in 2018 (John Mitchels, Glenbeigh-Glencar, Kerins O'Rahillys and Killarney Legion) and had 1 draw (Rathmore).  They finished 3rd from bottom, only a point below Killarney Legion and Dingle.  They suffered their biggest loss of the campaign to Dr. Crokes, going down by 10 points.  Other biggish losses were by 8 (St. Mary's) and 6 (Spa).  Tight losses by 2 to both An Ghaeltacht and Templenoe and a one point loss to Dingle show they were not far away from picking up points.

Although relegated, they were far from blown away.  The fact that they have no county men meant they had a full squad for all league games, barring the usual injuries, players on holidays and suspensions.

So Beaufort were in division 1 last year (of an 8 team league) and are playing in the Junior Cship.

Right so.

Sounds fair

It’s sounds unusual. Don’t see how it’s unfair.

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Re: Club Championships Jan-Mar 2019
« Reply #43 on: January 22, 2019, 08:05:59 AM »
If Dr. Crokes win their semi, it would mean 3 Kerry clubs within a 5 mile radius would be in the 3 Club All Ireland finals

Dr Crokes, Kilcummin & Beaufort all in Kerry division 1 league for 2019?

A Junior team in Div 1? They’ll be blown away :D

Beaufort won 4 games in Div 1 in 2018 (John Mitchels, Glenbeigh-Glencar, Kerins O'Rahillys and Killarney Legion) and had 1 draw (Rathmore).  They finished 3rd from bottom, only a point below Killarney Legion and Dingle.  They suffered their biggest loss of the campaign to Dr. Crokes, going down by 10 points.  Other biggish losses were by 8 (St. Mary's) and 6 (Spa).  Tight losses by 2 to both An Ghaeltacht and Templenoe and a one point loss to Dingle show they were not far away from picking up points.

Although relegated, they were far from blown away.  The fact that they have no county men meant they had a full squad for all league games, barring the usual injuries, players on holidays and suspensions.

So Beaufort were in division 1 last year (of an 8 team league) and are playing in the Junior Cship.

Right so.

Sounds fair

It’s sounds unusual. Don’t see how it’s unfair.

There are more than 8 teams in division one in Kerry. But only 8 club teams play in the senior championship (with the rest made up of divisional teams), the league and championship aren't linked.

 So even though they have over 50 clubs only 8 count as senior in championship terms. 9th best team is in intermediate championship. Unlike most counties they have a junior championship and a junior b championship. Effectively the winners of the two junior championships would be closer to intermediate/junior winners in other counties.

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Re: Club Championships Jan-Mar 2019
« Reply #44 on: January 22, 2019, 08:07:07 AM »
If Dr. Crokes win their semi, it would mean 3 Kerry clubs within a 5 mile radius would be in the 3 Club All Ireland finals

Dr Crokes, Kilcummin & Beaufort all in Kerry division 1 league for 2019?

A Junior team in Div 1? They’ll be blown away :D

Beaufort won 4 games in Div 1 in 2018 (John Mitchels, Glenbeigh-Glencar, Kerins O'Rahillys and Killarney Legion) and had 1 draw (Rathmore).  They finished 3rd from bottom, only a point below Killarney Legion and Dingle.  They suffered their biggest loss of the campaign to Dr. Crokes, going down by 10 points.  Other biggish losses were by 8 (St. Mary's) and 6 (Spa).  Tight losses by 2 to both An Ghaeltacht and Templenoe and a one point loss to Dingle show they were not far away from picking up points.

Although relegated, they were far from blown away.  The fact that they have no county men meant they had a full squad for all league games, barring the usual injuries, players on holidays and suspensions.

So Beaufort were in division 1 last year (of an 8 team league) and are playing in the Junior Cship.

Right so.

Sounds fair

12 teams in Div 1 to 4 in Kerry.  What makes it really competitive is 3 promoted and 3 relegated from each division.  County league is not linked to tiered championship, so the league is really inferior to the club championships - no starred games or anything like that.  The purpose of the league is to give games during the summer to non-county players. 

A little history of Kerry's league might be in order here - the county league started in 1970, the same year the ban was removed.  The intent was to keep players from playing the garrison game without penalty.  The championships always reigned supreme over the league. 

The beauty of the divisional set-up is that a good player from a poor club will be seen.  John Kennedy (member of the 1984-1986 3-in-row team) was from Asdee in North Kerry.  Asdee went years without winning a game in county league or novice championship, but due to the divisional set-up, John was able to play with Shannon Rangers (comprising of about 5 clubs) and showed he belonged at the higher level.

To move from junior to intermediate, you must win the junior championship (ditto from intermediate to senior).  It's not that hard to understand.

In Kerry's county championship in 2019, there are big changes.  Kilcummin will probably go senior (having won the intermediate in 2018), at the expense of weakening East Kerry.  Similarly, An Ghaeltacht drop out of senior, but West Kerry get stronger immediately.

It is a very vibrant county championship as there are big changes every year. 

I really don't understand why this issue is raised year after year.  In Cork it is very hard to get relegated...does that really help the overall standard?  If they present their 9th best club as intermediate, would Munster titles result? I say they would, but egos prevent certain clubs being called intermediate - even if a possible All-Ireland title is possible. 

For 2019 in Kerry County League, the famed Laune Rangers from Killorglin (winners of All-Ireland senior club championship in 1996) will compete in division 4.

Nothing is sacred in championship or league - you will play at the level you deserve.