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Re: Positive proposals at last to address the spectacle of Gaelic Football
« Reply #390 on: January 09, 2019, 09:36:44 PM »
I find find it gas that managers like Rory Gallagher, Paddy Tally and Stephen Poacher are the ones so vocal about this,  and what is there complaint, wait for it. It is cutting out goal chances. Ya couldn't make this shit up. Managers who spend all preseason devising systems which results in all players behind the ball with the basic instruction to try and stop the other team scoring are complaining because a new rule stops the opposition team scoring.  Something don't add up. What is it they say. Doth protest too much

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Re: Positive proposals at last to address the spectacle of Gaelic Football
« Reply #391 on: January 09, 2019, 11:33:33 PM »
Had my first look at the new rules in a properly competitive match tonight in Armagh. The kick out and sideline didn't seem much different and I don't think there was an offensive mark. The sin bin may be easier on the player black carded but the team does suffer a bigger punishment. Sadly I am going to have to go with majority and say if the 3 hand pass rule makes it into a championship match in future referees lives are going to get even tougher. Cassidy missed a couple of 4 hand passes and on one of these Armagh scored a point - and they only won by a point. Imagine the controversy if that happened in a big championship game.

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Re: Positive proposals at last to address the spectacle of Gaelic Football
« Reply #392 on: January 09, 2019, 11:41:34 PM »
I find find it gas that managers like Rory Gallagher, Paddy Tally and Stephen Poacher are the ones so vocal about this,  and what is there complaint, wait for it. It is cutting out goal chances. Ya couldn't make this shit up. Managers who spend all preseason devising systems which results in all players behind the ball with the basic instruction to try and stop the other team scoring are complaining because a new rule stops the opposition team scoring.  Something don't add up. What is it they say. Doth protest too much

James Horan has been vocal also. Has called the new rules 'crazy'
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Re: Positive proposals at last to address the spectacle of Gaelic Football
« Reply #393 on: January 10, 2019, 08:23:56 AM »
Had my first look at the new rules in a properly competitive match tonight in Armagh. The kick out and sideline didn't seem much different and I don't think there was an offensive mark. The sin bin may be easier on the player black carded but the team does suffer a bigger punishment. Sadly I am going to have to go with majority and say if the 3 hand pass rule makes it into a championship match in future referees lives are going to get even tougher. Cassidy missed a couple of 4 hand passes and on one of these Armagh scored a point - and they only won by a point. Imagine the controversy if that happened in a big championship game.

Like I said earlier, I would support the dropping of counting handpasses in the opposition half which would stop a lot of the controversy on scores.

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Re: Positive proposals at last to address the spectacle of Gaelic Football
« Reply #394 on: January 10, 2019, 09:05:03 AM »
Had my first look at the new rules in a properly competitive match tonight in Armagh. The kick out and sideline didn't seem much different and I don't think there was an offensive mark. The sin bin may be easier on the player black carded but the team does suffer a bigger punishment. Sadly I am going to have to go with majority and say if the 3 hand pass rule makes it into a championship match in future referees lives are going to get even tougher. Cassidy missed a couple of 4 hand passes and on one of these Armagh scored a point - and they only won by a point. Imagine the controversy if that happened in a big championship game.

Like I said earlier, I would support the dropping of counting handpasses in the opposition half which would stop a lot of the controversy on scores.

If a 4th hand pass is made backwards from the opposition half into your half does that count?
I just think its unworkable. Furthermore the GAA know it is unworkable. What they have done (rather cleverly) is to trial this rule to show up the lack of intelligence of people calling for this and other rule changes, thereby hopefully silencing this vocal minuscule minority of part time, bandwagon fans for a generation.
 

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Re: Positive proposals at last to address the spectacle of Gaelic Football
« Reply #395 on: January 10, 2019, 09:21:34 AM »
Had my first look at the new rules in a properly competitive match tonight in Armagh. The kick out and sideline didn't seem much different and I don't think there was an offensive mark. The sin bin may be easier on the player black carded but the team does suffer a bigger punishment. Sadly I am going to have to go with majority and say if the 3 hand pass rule makes it into a championship match in future referees lives are going to get even tougher. Cassidy missed a couple of 4 hand passes and on one of these Armagh scored a point - and they only won by a point. Imagine the controversy if that happened in a big championship game.

Like I said earlier, I would support the dropping of counting handpasses in the opposition half which would stop a lot of the controversy on scores.

If a 4th hand pass is made backwards from the opposition half into your half does that count?
I just think its unworkable. Furthermore the GAA know it is unworkable. What they have done (rather cleverly) is to trial this rule to show up the lack of intelligence of people calling for this and other rule changes, thereby hopefully silencing this vocal minuscule minority of part time, bandwagon fans for a generation.

There is a community in the US known as the Amish. They too are stuck in the past and resist change at all costs. You should check it out and see if you can join. I believe they are playing 30 a side GAA matches which run across multiple meadows in the different parishes. They also use the game for a bit of faction fighting which is the main attraction in truth. There are never more than 3 scores in a game. The ball weighs 3 stone and everybody has a mustache and a cap.

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Re: Positive proposals at last to address the spectacle of Gaelic Football
« Reply #396 on: January 10, 2019, 10:08:19 AM »
Had my first look at the new rules in a properly competitive match tonight in Armagh. The kick out and sideline didn't seem much different and I don't think there was an offensive mark. The sin bin may be easier on the player black carded but the team does suffer a bigger punishment. Sadly I am going to have to go with majority and say if the 3 hand pass rule makes it into a championship match in future referees lives are going to get even tougher. Cassidy missed a couple of 4 hand passes and on one of these Armagh scored a point - and they only won by a point. Imagine the controversy if that happened in a big championship game.

Like I said earlier, I would support the dropping of counting handpasses in the opposition half which would stop a lot of the controversy on scores.

If a 4th hand pass is made backwards from the opposition half into your half does that count?
I just think its unworkable. Furthermore the GAA know it is unworkable. What they have done (rather cleverly) is to trial this rule to show up the lack of intelligence of people calling for this and other rule changes, thereby hopefully silencing this vocal minuscule minority of part time, bandwagon fans for a generation.

There is a community in the US known as the Amish. They too are stuck in the past and resist change at all costs. You should check it out and see if you can join. I believe they are playing 30 a side GAA matches which run across multiple meadows in the different parishes. They also use the game for a bit of faction fighting which is the main attraction in truth. There are never more than 3 scores in a game. The ball weighs 3 stone and everybody has a mustache and a cap.

is this not what alot of people what to bring us back to?
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Re: Positive proposals at last to address the spectacle of Gaelic Football
« Reply #397 on: January 10, 2019, 10:24:53 AM »
Had my first look at the new rules in a properly competitive match tonight in Armagh. The kick out and sideline didn't seem much different and I don't think there was an offensive mark. The sin bin may be easier on the player black carded but the team does suffer a bigger punishment. Sadly I am going to have to go with majority and say if the 3 hand pass rule makes it into a championship match in future referees lives are going to get even tougher. Cassidy missed a couple of 4 hand passes and on one of these Armagh scored a point - and they only won by a point. Imagine the controversy if that happened in a big championship game.

Like I said earlier, I would support the dropping of counting handpasses in the opposition half which would stop a lot of the controversy on scores.

If a 4th hand pass is made backwards from the opposition half into your half does that count?
I just think its unworkable. Furthermore the GAA know it is unworkable. What they have done (rather cleverly) is to trial this rule to show up the lack of intelligence of people calling for this and other rule changes, thereby hopefully silencing this vocal minuscule minority of part time, bandwagon fans for a generation.

There is a community in the US known as the Amish. They too are stuck in the past and resist change at all costs. You should check it out and see if you can join. I believe they are playing 30 a side GAA matches which run across multiple meadows in the different parishes. They also use the game for a bit of faction fighting which is the main attraction in truth. There are never more than 3 scores in a game. The ball weighs 3 stone and everybody has a mustache and a cap.

The Amish have beards, not no moustaches  :P

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Re: Positive proposals at last to address the spectacle of Gaelic Football
« Reply #398 on: January 10, 2019, 11:04:15 AM »
Had my first look at the new rules in a properly competitive match tonight in Armagh. The kick out and sideline didn't seem much different and I don't think there was an offensive mark. The sin bin may be easier on the player black carded but the team does suffer a bigger punishment. Sadly I am going to have to go with majority and say if the 3 hand pass rule makes it into a championship match in future referees lives are going to get even tougher. Cassidy missed a couple of 4 hand passes and on one of these Armagh scored a point - and they only won by a point. Imagine the controversy if that happened in a big championship game.

Like I said earlier, I would support the dropping of counting handpasses in the opposition half which would stop a lot of the controversy on scores.

If a 4th hand pass is made backwards from the opposition half into your half does that count?
I just think its unworkable. Furthermore the GAA know it is unworkable. What they have done (rather cleverly) is to trial this rule to show up the lack of intelligence of people calling for this and other rule changes, thereby hopefully silencing this vocal minuscule minority of part time, bandwagon fans for a generation.

There is a community in the US known as the Amish. They too are stuck in the past and resist change at all costs. You should check it out and see if you can join. I believe they are playing 30 a side GAA matches which run across multiple meadows in the different parishes. They also use the game for a bit of faction fighting which is the main attraction in truth. There are never more than 3 scores in a game. The ball weighs 3 stone and everybody has a mustache and a cap.

The Amish have beards, not no moustaches  :P

You are right, there was a motion to bring in mustaches last year and it was defeated as Mickey Harte and Rory Gallagher hate them.

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Re: Positive proposals at last to address the spectacle of Gaelic Football
« Reply #399 on: January 10, 2019, 11:54:10 AM »
Had my first look at the new rules in a properly competitive match tonight in Armagh. The kick out and sideline didn't seem much different and I don't think there was an offensive mark. The sin bin may be easier on the player black carded but the team does suffer a bigger punishment. Sadly I am going to have to go with majority and say if the 3 hand pass rule makes it into a championship match in future referees lives are going to get even tougher. Cassidy missed a couple of 4 hand passes and on one of these Armagh scored a point - and they only won by a point. Imagine the controversy if that happened in a big championship game.

Like I said earlier, I would support the dropping of counting handpasses in the opposition half which would stop a lot of the controversy on scores.

If a 4th hand pass is made backwards from the opposition half into your half does that count?
I just think its unworkable. Furthermore the GAA know it is unworkable. What they have done (rather cleverly) is to trial this rule to show up the lack of intelligence of people calling for this and other rule changes, thereby hopefully silencing this vocal minuscule minority of part time, bandwagon fans for a generation.

There is a community in the US known as the Amish. They too are stuck in the past and resist change at all costs. You should check it out and see if you can join. I believe they are playing 30 a side GAA matches which run across multiple meadows in the different parishes. They also use the game for a bit of faction fighting which is the main attraction in truth. There are never more than 3 scores in a game. The ball weighs 3 stone and everybody has a mustache and a cap.

The Amish have beards, not no moustaches  :P

You are right, there was a motion to bring in mustaches last year and it was defeated as Mickey Harte and Rory Gallagher hate them.
That probably explains this then.

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Re: Positive proposals at last to address the spectacle of Gaelic Football
« Reply #400 on: January 10, 2019, 01:01:08 PM »
Playing rules aside I think that the sin bin has to be a given and even do away with the black card altogether as it was only ever a sop to gurning managers when the sin bin was first mooted.

Yellow card offence, off you pop there big lad.

Losing a lad for 10 minutes is a much bigger punishment on the team than having to replace someone for the rest of the game.

The attacking mark won't have the necessary effect until teams furnish themselves with big target men and there's only a handful of them about with fast, mobile players the preference these last number of years.

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Re: Positive proposals at last to address the spectacle of Gaelic Football
« Reply #401 on: January 10, 2019, 01:35:24 PM »
Had my first look at the new rules in a properly competitive match tonight in Armagh. The kick out and sideline didn't seem much different and I don't think there was an offensive mark. The sin bin may be easier on the player black carded but the team does suffer a bigger punishment. Sadly I am going to have to go with majority and say if the 3 hand pass rule makes it into a championship match in future referees lives are going to get even tougher. Cassidy missed a couple of 4 hand passes and on one of these Armagh scored a point - and they only won by a point. Imagine the controversy if that happened in a big championship game.

Like I said earlier, I would support the dropping of counting handpasses in the opposition half which would stop a lot of the controversy on scores.

If a 4th hand pass is made backwards from the opposition half into your half does that count?
I just think its unworkable. Furthermore the GAA know it is unworkable. What they have done (rather cleverly) is to trial this rule to show up the lack of intelligence of people calling for this and other rule changes, thereby hopefully silencing this vocal minuscule minority of part time, bandwagon fans for a generation.

There is a community in the US known as the Amish. They too are stuck in the past and resist change at all costs. You should check it out and see if you can join. I believe they are playing 30 a side GAA matches which run across multiple meadows in the different parishes. They also use the game for a bit of faction fighting which is the main attraction in truth. There are never more than 3 scores in a game. The ball weighs 3 stone and everybody has a mustache and a cap.

The Amish have beards, not no moustaches  :P

You are right, there was a motion to bring in mustaches last year and it was defeated as Mickey Harte and Rory Gallagher hate them.
That probably explains this then.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/gaa/tyrone/mickey-harte-loses-two-of-tyrone-backroom-lieutenants-30489204.html

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Re: Positive proposals at last to address the spectacle of Gaelic Football
« Reply #402 on: January 10, 2019, 02:02:28 PM »
Had my first look at the new rules in a properly competitive match tonight in Armagh. The kick out and sideline didn't seem much different and I don't think there was an offensive mark. The sin bin may be easier on the player black carded but the team does suffer a bigger punishment. Sadly I am going to have to go with majority and say if the 3 hand pass rule makes it into a championship match in future referees lives are going to get even tougher. Cassidy missed a couple of 4 hand passes and on one of these Armagh scored a point - and they only won by a point. Imagine the controversy if that happened in a big championship game.

Like I said earlier, I would support the dropping of counting handpasses in the opposition half which would stop a lot of the controversy on scores.

If a 4th hand pass is made backwards from the opposition half into your half does that count?
I just think its unworkable. Furthermore the GAA know it is unworkable. What they have done (rather cleverly) is to trial this rule to show up the lack of intelligence of people calling for this and other rule changes, thereby hopefully silencing this vocal minuscule minority of part time, bandwagon fans for a generation.

There is a community in the US known as the Amish. They too are stuck in the past and resist change at all costs. You should check it out and see if you can join. I believe they are playing 30 a side GAA matches which run across multiple meadows in the different parishes. They also use the game for a bit of faction fighting which is the main attraction in truth. There are never more than 3 scores in a game. The ball weighs 3 stone and everybody has a mustache and a cap.

The Amish have beards, not no moustaches  :P

You are right, there was a motion to bring in mustaches last year and it was defeated as Mickey Harte and Rory Gallagher hate them.

don't they all wear Black and white, it would be like watching Sligo play every weekend.


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Re: Positive proposals at last to address the spectacle of Gaelic Football
« Reply #404 on: January 13, 2019, 10:08:58 PM »
I was extremely sceptical about the new rules but based on the Ros Sligo game today I feel they might be worth persevering with. The main rule out of them all is the 3 hand passes. It is actually forcing a fundamental change away from the possession/recycling style that's evolved over the last few years. You could see lads today consciously avoiding making that second and third hand pass in case it landed your teammate in trouble. There was much more foot passing on display, admittedly much of it short and safe but I'd prefer that to the looping around the 45 popping hand passes x infinity we've become accustomed to. There were plenty of turnovers and I felt it exciting to watch that if 2 hand passes were made you were acutely aware that the next pass choice was critical - putting a man in possession after 3 hand passes puts him in dodgy territory, thus there was more ambitious balls kicked inside and definitely more lads taking riskier shots rather than fisting it out again to "hold possession".

Even the maligned sideline kick forward might be a positive. Sligo got one in near the 21. They had no option but to go for the point, it landed in around the small square and there was a bit of a scramble to get it clear. That's better for both teams and sets of spectators than a kick back to the 45 and another round of looping runs and fist passes across in front of the blanket.

I'd be inclined to give all this a chance based on,admittedly , only one viewing.