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« Reply #300 on: October 24, 2018, 07:11:12 PM »
Question for parents.

If your 18 or 19 year old son, playing in a minor, U21 or senior game was on the receiving end of a dirty punch and ended up with a broken nose or worse, a broken jaw, what would you do? 

Would you go to the police / guards?

Would you let the County Board sort it, with the potential of a lenient suspension being handed out?

Would you try and persuade the lad to leave the sport?

Just interested in other's experiences.  I'm not looking forward to the day my young lads are playing under the threat of something like that happening.  I'm worrying about it already.
Would love to be able to go to the cops, but couldn't
Wouldn't trust the county board,  the rules are not tight enough for the subsequent appeals.
If he wanted to leave , I wouldn't stop him;  his happiness and safety would be the no.1 factor

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« Reply #301 on: October 24, 2018, 07:12:07 PM »
Not according to the rule book. Part of the problem, a lot of players, managers, supporters and some refs don't know the rules.

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« Reply #302 on: October 24, 2018, 07:13:01 PM »
Pat McEananey was great for talking to you about fouls etc. He'd often say to you in a break of play....I saw that off the ball or that was too high, too late, I'm keeping an eye on the holding etc. It made it easier to play then. I think that type of approach with the refs rather than being dictator like would help

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« Reply #303 on: October 24, 2018, 07:26:30 PM »
Pat McEananey was great for talking to you about fouls etc. He'd often say to you in a break of play....I saw that off the ball or that was too high, too late, I'm keeping an eye on the holding etc. It made it easier to play then. I think that type of approach with the refs rather than being dictator like would help

Refs do that, and some donít, they might not have the personality or confidence to do it but they know the rules... Iím bored of the easy touch of ďitís the refs fault, heís lost controlĒ play the ball tackle hard and in the rules and youíll be fine. Lift your fists is your own problem and be ready to accept the whatís coming to you..

Pat as you say was a great man. Spoke well and had the pleasure of hearing him at a conference at Croke Park, I would take issue with some of his decisions (like I would as a supporter) when he refíd Ya in the Ulster championship mind you.

If someone busts up your kid BC1 how will you react?
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« Reply #304 on: October 24, 2018, 08:30:34 PM »
Pat McEananey was great for talking to you about fouls etc. He'd often say to you in a break of play....I saw that off the ball or that was too high, too late, I'm keeping an eye on the holding etc. It made it easier to play then. I think that type of approach with the refs rather than being dictator like would help

Refs do that, and some donít, they might not have the personality or confidence to do it but they know the rules... Iím bored of the easy touch of ďitís the refs fault, heís lost controlĒ play the ball tackle hard and in the rules and youíll be fine. Lift your fists is your own problem and be ready to accept the whatís coming to you..

Pat as you say was a great man. Spoke well and had the pleasure of hearing him at a conference at Croke Park, I would take issue with some of his decisions (like I would as a supporter) when he refíd Ya in the Ulster championship mind you.

If someone busts up your kid BC1 how will you react?

Nearly certain BC1 won't go to the peelers anyway. Plus bust is too general. If you're judas'd from behind then go ahead and get the police involved if you so wish. But for some innocuous punch, or two lads duking it out, its a bad road to go down.

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« Reply #305 on: October 24, 2018, 08:37:58 PM »
Pat McEananey was great for talking to you about fouls etc. He'd often say to you in a break of play....I saw that off the ball or that was too high, too late, I'm keeping an eye on the holding etc. It made it easier to play then. I think that type of approach with the refs rather than being dictator like would help

Refs do that, and some donít, they might not have the personality or confidence to do it but they know the rules... Iím bored of the easy touch of ďitís the refs fault, heís lost controlĒ play the ball tackle hard and in the rules and youíll be fine. Lift your fists is your own problem and be ready to accept the whatís coming to you..

Pat as you say was a great man. Spoke well and had the pleasure of hearing him at a conference at Croke Park, I would take issue with some of his decisions (like I would as a supporter) when he refíd Ya in the Ulster championship mind you.

If someone busts up your kid BC1 how will you react?

Nearly certain BC1 won't go to the peelers anyway. Plus bust is too general. If you're judas'd from behind then go ahead and get the police involved if you so wish. But for some innocuous punch, or two lads duking it out, its a bad road to go down.

I put it to you and used same thing and you said, it was the refís fault or itís part of the game, take your medicine and move on.. so BC1 is big enough and ugly enough to respond. As far as youíre concerned assaulting someone during a game is ok
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« Reply #306 on: October 24, 2018, 10:12:35 PM »
Pat McEananey was great for talking to you about fouls etc. He'd often say to you in a break of play....I saw that off the ball or that was too high, too late, I'm keeping an eye on the holding etc. It made it easier to play then. I think that type of approach with the refs rather than being dictator like would help

Refs do that, and some donít, they might not have the personality or confidence to do it but they know the rules... Iím bored of the easy touch of ďitís the refs fault, heís lost controlĒ play the ball tackle hard and in the rules and youíll be fine. Lift your fists is your own problem and be ready to accept the whatís coming to you..

Pat as you say was a great man. Spoke well and had the pleasure of hearing him at a conference at Croke Park, I would take issue with some of his decisions (like I would as a supporter) when he refíd Ya in the Ulster championship mind you.

If someone busts up your kid BC1 how will you react?

Nearly certain BC1 won't go to the peelers anyway. Plus bust is too general. If you're judas'd from behind then go ahead and get the police involved if you so wish. But for some innocuous punch, or two lads duking it out, its a bad road to go down.

I put it to you and used same thing and you said, it was the refís fault or itís part of the game, take your medicine and move on.. so BC1 is big enough and ugly enough to respond. As far as youíre concerned assaulting someone during a game is ok

If a man ran into the field like the Dingle man and struck a child of mine causing him serious injury I would have no issue going to the police.

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« Reply #307 on: October 24, 2018, 11:05:06 PM »
Pat McEananey was great for talking to you about fouls etc. He'd often say to you in a break of play....I saw that off the ball or that was too high, too late, I'm keeping an eye on the holding etc. It made it easier to play then. I think that type of approach with the refs rather than being dictator like would help

Refs do that, and some donít, they might not have the personality or confidence to do it but they know the rules... Iím bored of the easy touch of ďitís the refs fault, heís lost controlĒ play the ball tackle hard and in the rules and youíll be fine. Lift your fists is your own problem and be ready to accept the whatís coming to you..

Pat as you say was a great man. Spoke well and had the pleasure of hearing him at a conference at Croke Park, I would take issue with some of his decisions (like I would as a supporter) when he refíd Ya in the Ulster championship mind you.

If someone busts up your kid BC1 how will you react?
He's still alive, still refereeing and still a great man.

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« Reply #308 on: October 24, 2018, 11:38:36 PM »
Pat McEananey was great for talking to you about fouls etc. He'd often say to you in a break of play....I saw that off the ball or that was too high, too late, I'm keeping an eye on the holding etc. It made it easier to play then. I think that type of approach with the refs rather than being dictator like would help

Refs do that, and some donít, they might not have the personality or confidence to do it but they know the rules... Iím bored of the easy touch of ďitís the refs fault, heís lost controlĒ play the ball tackle hard and in the rules and youíll be fine. Lift your fists is your own problem and be ready to accept the whatís coming to you..

Pat as you say was a great man. Spoke well and had the pleasure of hearing him at a conference at Croke Park, I would take issue with some of his decisions (like I would as a supporter) when he refíd Ya in the Ulster championship mind you.

If someone busts up your kid BC1 how will you react?
He's still alive, still refereeing and still a great man.

I was talking inter county refereeing, not dead or not refereeing, but yeah had heard he still had the whistle, very fit man was telling us his training regime.. would embarrass a few county players
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« Reply #309 on: October 30, 2018, 01:09:44 PM »
It would be interesting to see how many cards are issued in each county over the course of the club championships

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« Reply #310 on: October 30, 2018, 02:12:41 PM »
Pat McEananey was great for talking to you about fouls etc. He'd often say to you in a break of play....I saw that off the ball or that was too high, too late, I'm keeping an eye on the holding etc. It made it easier to play then. I think that type of approach with the refs rather than being dictator like would help

Refs do that, and some donít, they might not have the personality or confidence to do it but they know the rules... Iím bored of the easy touch of ďitís the refs fault, heís lost controlĒ play the ball tackle hard and in the rules and youíll be fine. Lift your fists is your own problem and be ready to accept the whatís coming to you..

Pat as you say was a great man. Spoke well and had the pleasure of hearing him at a conference at Croke Park, I would take issue with some of his decisions (like I would as a supporter) when he refíd Ya in the Ulster championship mind you.

If someone busts up your kid BC1 how will you react?

Nearly certain BC1 won't go to the peelers anyway. Plus bust is too general. If you're judas'd from behind then go ahead and get the police involved if you so wish. But for some innocuous punch, or two lads duking it out, its a bad road to go down.

I put it to you and used same thing and you said, it was the refís fault or itís part of the game, take your medicine and move on.. so BC1 is big enough and ugly enough to respond. As far as youíre concerned assaulting someone during a game is ok

If a man ran into the field like the Dingle man and struck a child of mine causing him serious injury I would have no issue going to the police.

On the disappearance of the man to be later found on the Blaney Rd in a black bin bag ;) :)
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« Reply #311 on: October 31, 2018, 02:51:55 PM »
Why is the GAA held to such different standard to other gaes just saw highlight from munsters brawl last weekend . 2 massive punch up not a peep from anywhere.
is it tat thuggery is so ingrained in Rigby that no one even notices it any more?
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« Reply #312 on: October 31, 2018, 03:06:40 PM »
Why is the GAA held to such different standard to other gaes just saw highlight from munsters brawl last weekend . 2 massive punch up not a peep from anywhere.
is it tat thuggery is so ingrained in Rigby that no one even notices it any more?

Any member's of the Munster management chin a player on the blind side? Any Munster players jump the fence?
List the last few massive punch ups in Rugby you've seen prior to last weekend.  Do rugby players / management usually take their punishment and move on?

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« Reply #313 on: October 31, 2018, 04:38:18 PM »
Why is the GAA held to such different standard to other gaes just saw highlight from munsters brawl last weekend . 2 massive punch up not a peep from anywhere.
is it tat thuggery is so ingrained in Rigby that no one even notices it any more?

Any member's of the Munster management chin a player on the blind side? Any Munster players jump the fence?
List the last few massive punch ups in Rugby you've seen prior to last weekend.  Do rugby players / management usually take their punishment and move on?
why wouldn't they no one was suspended its not like anyone put his foot over the offside line ,


heres a selection of the jolly japes you rugger folk get up to
http://www.punditarena.com/rugby/adrumm/5-of-rugbys-biggest-punch-ups/
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby-match-erupts-violence-huge-13346032
https://vid-moon.com/video/gRT1iOANgOn5nAqZgE
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/12203069/Mass-rugby-punch-up-between-Royal-Navy-and-French-navy.html


or the legal violence that caused the premature retirements in 2018 alone of
sam wharbuton
Christian wade
Joe Marler
tim visser
james heaslip
Bryan Habana
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Re: Violence in Adult Club Football
« Reply #314 on: October 31, 2018, 04:56:57 PM »
Why is the GAA held to such different standard to other gaes just saw highlight from munsters brawl last weekend . 2 massive punch up not a peep from anywhere.
is it tat thuggery is so ingrained in Rigby that no one even notices it any more?

Any member's of the Munster management chin a player on the blind side? Any Munster players jump the fence?
List the last few massive punch ups in Rugby you've seen prior to last weekend.  Do rugby players / management usually take their punishment and move on?
why wouldn't they no one was suspended its not like anyone put his foot over the offside line ,


heres a selection of the jolly japes you rugger folk get up to
http://www.punditarena.com/rugby/adrumm/5-of-rugbys-biggest-punch-ups/
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/rugby-match-erupts-violence-huge-13346032
https://vid-moon.com/video/gRT1iOANgOn5nAqZgE
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/12203069/Mass-rugby-punch-up-between-Royal-Navy-and-French-navy.html


or the legal violence that caused the premature retirements in 2018 alone of
sam wharbuton
Christian wade
Joe Marler
tim visser
james heaslip
Bryan Habana

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