2019 Allianz Football League Division 3.

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Laoiseabu

Quote from: Junior Ex Laoistalk on February 02, 2019, 06:59:20 PM
I wouldn't worry too much about that performance. I think it was typical of Laois teams down through the years, win a game they're not expected to and the cockiness creeps in and inevitably they are caught in the next game. I really believe if we had lost to Down we would have picked up two points here today.
John Sugrue seems to be the type of guy who will use that performance to drive home a few things to these guys and I hope they learn from it. I believe they will and Sligo will suffer for it next week.
"John Sugrue seems to be the type of guy who will " my arse . He's the one that made the decision not to start O'Carroll Kingston and Begley. How can u win.

Don Draper

Ah lovely, we're turning on Sugrue already, what a shower of c***ts we are

Jd

Pay no heed to fools like that . ''Twas a bad day that's all I think you'll see that vast majority on here have full confidence in JS and his management team

O moore parklife

Quote from: Laoiseabu on February 02, 2019, 07:53:17 PM
Quote from: Junior Ex Laoistalk on February 02, 2019, 06:59:20 PM
I wouldn't worry too much about that performance. I think it was typical of Laois teams down through the years, win a game they're not expected to and the cockiness creeps in and inevitably they are caught in the next game. I really believe if we had lost to Down we would have picked up two points here today.
John Sugrue seems to be the type of guy who will use that performance to drive home a few things to these guys and I hope they learn from it. I believe they will and Sligo will suffer for it next week.
"John Sugrue seems to be the type of guy who will " my arse . He's the one that made the decision not to start O'Carroll Kingston and Begley. How can u win.

You embody the worst in any "fan" f*ck off the bandwagon and go boil your head.

Best of luck to john and the team on the rest of the season great to see a couple of 100 travel up to croker for a leauge match.

on the hop

Does anybody know how bad Sean Byrnes injury is??

welcomehome

Just back from croke park,really dont no what to say..There was no one u could say played good,except maybe brody..Hopefully its just an off day,we certainly  got a wake up call today..I cannot understand why donie evan and begley dont start,i would love to know who in there right mind put this match in croke park.THE TEAMS CAME OUT TO AN EMPTY STADIUM...

Laoiseabu

Quote from: O moore parklife on February 02, 2019, 08:46:28 PM
Quote from: Laoiseabu on February 02, 2019, 07:53:17 PM
Quote from: Junior Ex Laoistalk on February 02, 2019, 06:59:20 PM
I wouldn't worry too much about that performance. I think it was typical of Laois teams down through the years, win a game they're not expected to and the cockiness creeps in and inevitably they are caught in the next game. I really believe if we had lost to Down we would have picked up two points here today.
John Sugrue seems to be the type of guy who will use that performance to drive home a few things to these guys and I hope they learn from it. I believe they will and Sligo will suffer for it next week.
"John Sugrue seems to be the type of guy who will " my arse . He's the one that made the decision not to start O'Carroll Kingston and Begley. How can u win.

You embody the worst in any "fan" f*ck off the bandwagon and go boil your head.

Best of luck to john and the team on the rest of the season great to see a couple of 100 travel up to croker for a leauge match.
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It's the truth . You can't afford to be without your 3 best players on from the start

Laoiseabu

Quote from: Jd on February 02, 2019, 08:35:28 PM
Pay no heed to fools like that . ''Twas a bad day that's all I think you'll see that vast majority on here have full confidence in JS and his management team
I'm not a fool. It was his decision not to start our three best players. I'm stating my opinion . I know the truth hurts but someone has to point it out. We are fooling ourselves if we think Donie Evan and Colm shouldn't be starting . Those three  players were the reason we got a victory in Newry.

oneflewoverthecuckoonest

this division could be a game of snakes and ladders.
great result in newry, horrid today.

the only point I would add is that over the years, I have found louth to be a team which needs to lead early if they are to win.....when they beat us in the championship and more recently two years ago in the league they amassed big leads and we never were in the hunt. when louth fall behind , they a rarely make a comeback.
therefore starting our best forwards in the hope of establishing an early lead was important against this opposition.....bringing on donie and evan when the damage was done failed to rescue the situation.

it is easy to be wise after the event.....looking ahead to Sligo next sunday.....our problem against them over the years has been discipline(keeping 15 on the field), if we address this aspect in advance of next sunday we can win that game.

Don Draper

Quote from: welcomehome on February 02, 2019, 09:43:48 PM
Just back from croke park,really dont no what to say..There was no one u could say played good,except maybe brody..Hopefully its just an off day,we certainly  got a wake up call today..I cannot understand why donie evan and begley dont start,i would love to know who in there right mind put this match in croke park.THE TEAMS CAME OUT TO AN EMPTY STADIUM...
We put it in Croke Park

Don Draper

Quote from: Laoiseabu on February 02, 2019, 10:03:42 PM
Quote from: Jd on February 02, 2019, 08:35:28 PM
Pay no heed to fools like that . ''Twas a bad day that's all I think you'll see that vast majority on here have full confidence in JS and his management team
I'm not a fool. It was his decision not to start our three best players. I'm stating my opinion . I know the truth hurts but someone has to point it out. We are fooling ourselves if we think Donie Evan and Colm shouldn't be starting . Those three  players were the reason we got a victory in Newry.
Evan needs minding
Donie is recovering from a virus
Colm is returning from injury

Why flog them in a league match a risk worse injury and log term absence?

You're being quite foolish here. We need to develop new leaders and new players.

Junior Ex Laoistalk

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Quote from: Don Draper on February 02, 2019, 10:26:41 PM
Quote from: Laoiseabu on February 02, 2019, 10:03:42 PM
Quote from: Jd on February 02, 2019, 08:35:28 PM
Pay no heed to fools like that . ''Twas a bad day that's all I think you'll see that vast majority on here have full confidence in JS and his management team
I'm not a fool. It was his decision not to start our three best players. I'm stating my opinion . I know the truth hurts but someone has to point it out. We are fooling ourselves if we think Donie Evan and Colm shouldn't be starting . Those three  players were the reason we got a victory in Newry.
Evan needs minding
Donie is recovering from a virus
Colm is returning from injury

Why flog them in a league match a risk worse injury and log term absence?

You're being quite foolish here. We need to develop new leaders and new players.

That's the most sensible thing you have said in a long time Don.. Congrats..  ;D

Firstly, reasons why we should have been able to win this game.
(1) Louth have officially the worst league record in the country losing their last ten matches in the league which includes the defeat to Tipp in the 2017 Division 3 league final.
(2) Louth have not won a match in Croke Park since beating Westmeath in the Division 3 final in 2011.
(3) Louth were 14/1 with the bookies not to win a game in Div 3.
(4) Since the beginning of last year Louth have only won two O'Byrne cup games.

Evan is in danger of being burnt out before the championship starts so it was a good decision to rest him until needed. Playing lads who are injured is not a good idea especially when we have a panel of lads who need game time. I thought Mark Timmons was badly missed today, we needed some experience in the defence and I think if Kevin Meaney was there he would have strengthened our midfield when Lillis got his walking papers.

Its still a learning curve for both players and management and I have no doubt they will all learn from this regarding attitude, commitment and keeping focused on the game in hand and not on previous results.
Winners are not those who never fail, but those who never quit!

High Fielder

Alarm bell one. Our two midfielders were giving away a lot of height. Long kicks meaningless. Alarm bell two. Two inexperienced and nervy defenders left isolated without a sweeper. Alarm bell three. One of their forwards clearly rinsing one of our inexperienced backs and creating the perfect conditions for incoming attackers. Tackling powderpuff. Support play the stuff of negligence. Lads not tuned in and watching their team mates getting bottled up time after time. Just one of those performances that make you think that we made a fortune backing Louth at whatever ridiculous price they were. We can't be that bad and I know we're not but yet I can't understand what the hell happened today. I know we have lads playing who are a long way off what is needed even in the lower Divisions

Tony

Hard to put your finger on a performance like that; I thought there were poor performances lacking urgency all around the field, apart from Brody, Begley, Attride and Ross in the first half. HOWEVER, it's a league match at the start of February and I wouldn't be getting carried away one way or another, just like post Down victory last week. It's hard to know where we stand currently, we'll only know that come end of league / championship time.

However, one thing I do know is that the starting championship team will likely look VASTLY different to the one starting yesterday. I thought we lacked pace yesterday which was a killer, and I thought we lacked experience in VITAL areas. Anyway, it was valuable experience for a lot of lads like Piggott, Murphy, Nerney etc and it will bring those lads on a lot, and I think all the newer faces need and deserve a lot more time.

My team for the end of League / start of Championship looks something like this -
                         
                          Brody

    Healy/Seale      Timmons      Dillon
   Attride              Begley         Lillis

           JOL  Quigley/Meaney

      Boyle          Donie        Damien O' Connor/Byrne
    P Kingston   Evan O' C     Colm Murphy / Cahilane


I know there are hardly any new faces there and that's an ageing team, but you have to go with your best 15 for C'ship, and, I see that being our best team come April or May. Plenty of size and decent pace in important areas. I still think there's a lot of potential in the likes of Nerney, Piggott, Byrne etc and there is a lot of competition for places / room for new lads to step up and claim their place. I just think that's the best we have in 2019; still mostly the old guard. Still life in them all yet, though, in my opinion.

O moore parklife

Quote from: Tony on February 03, 2019, 09:28:15 AM
Hard to put your finger on a performance like that; I thought there were poor performances lacking urgency all around the field, apart from Brody, Begley, Attride and Ross in the first half. HOWEVER, it's a league match at the start of February and I wouldn't be getting carried away one way or another, just like post Down victory last week. It's hard to know where we stand currently, we'll only know that come end of league / championship time.

However, one thing I do know is that the starting championship team will likely look VASTLY different to the one starting yesterday. I thought we lacked pace yesterday which was a killer, and I thought we lacked experience in VITAL areas. Anyway, it was valuable experience for a lot of lads like Piggott, Murphy, Nerney etc and it will bring those lads on a lot, and I think all the newer faces need and deserve a lot more time.

My team for the end of League / start of Championship looks something like this -
                         
                          Brody

    Healy/Seale      Timmons      Dillon
   Attride              Begley         Lillis

           JOL  Quigley/Meaney

      Boyle          Donie        Damien O' Connor/Byrne
    P Kingston   Evan O' C     Colm Murphy / Cahilane


I know there are hardly any new faces there and that's an ageing team, but you have to go with your best 15 for C'ship, and, I see that being our best team come April or May. Plenty of size and decent pace in important areas. I still think there's a lot of potential in the likes of Nerney, Piggott, Byrne etc and there is a lot of competition for places / room for new lads to step up and claim their place. I just think that's the best we have in 2019; still mostly the old guard. Still life in them all yet, though, in my opinion.

Great logical post makings of a battle hardened team there alright id much rather give young lads game time and potentially put out a "weaker" team and have them blooded for high intensity matches in Leinster and beyond