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Re: Dublin v Tyrone 2018 All Ireland Final
« Reply #45 on: August 13, 2018, 01:39:14 AM »
Just a gentle reminder to all who love to bash the quality of the Leinster championship that Meath came VERY close to beating Tyrone this year.

Good point Tyrone fell over the line with the help of the ref today.

They lost two games all year ....there is another team that lost only two games to the same opposition...who ?
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Re: Dublin v Tyrone 2018 All Ireland Final
« Reply #47 on: August 13, 2018, 06:20:48 AM »
Limerick in 2007 and Waterford in 2008 never recovered from the hammerings the Kilkenny 4 in a row teams gave them in all Ireland finals. Tyrone probably need a year or two more but they have just a few weeks.
Last year's hammering is something for Tyrone to learn from. They are not going in under any illusions. That should be an advantage if they have the right mindset.
Also, they won’t be going in shitting it having played Dublin already (and not getting tanked).
I think that game will give Tyrone great confidence.

They won't be able to give out a fake Clar an Lae this time though or narrow the pitch

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Re: Dublin v Tyrone 2018 All Ireland Final
« Reply #48 on: August 13, 2018, 08:20:22 AM »
Limerick in 2007 and Waterford in 2008 never recovered from the hammerings the Kilkenny 4 in a row teams gave them in all Ireland finals. Tyrone probably need a year or two more but they have just a few weeks.
Limerick were comprehensively beaten but not hammered. They pretty much fluked their way through to the final that year anyway and few expected them to get back there.

In reality Waterford were already on a downward slide by 2008. They actually got pretty close to Kilkenny in the semi-final the following year.

Last year's hammering is something for Tyrone to learn from. They are not going in under any illusions. That should be an advantage if they have the right mindset.
That is the nature of monopoly. All contenders are neutralised. That Limerick team could have built on what it learnt up to the semifinal but it faded away. So did Waterford. So did Cork too.

TTyrone  would like to win an all Ireland over the next few years. Losing comprehensively in an all Ireland final is usually the definitive judgement on a number of players who might otherwise develop into winners on a different path. The biggest stage, the greatest pressure versus a more measured approach. Maybe Tyrone don’t and won’t have the players anyway. But a big loss in the AIF is not a positive development generally.
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Re: Dublin v Tyrone 2018 All Ireland Final
« Reply #49 on: August 13, 2018, 08:25:52 AM »
If I don't see photos in the paper of sheep painted white and red in going to be very disappointed. Any word yet of a song?

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Re: Dublin v Tyrone 2018 All Ireland Final
« Reply #50 on: August 13, 2018, 08:27:56 AM »
Well done Tyrone, it will be close if Omagh is anything to go by, Impressed with some of the forward play yesterday and could have had Monaghan beaten in the first 20 minutes.

However you have to live with Dublin for 80 minutes. Different story.



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Re: Dublin v Tyrone 2018 All Ireland Final
« Reply #51 on: August 13, 2018, 08:36:43 AM »
If I don't see photos in the paper of sheep painted white and red in going to be very disappointed. Any word yet of a song?

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Re: Dublin v Tyrone 2018 All Ireland Final
« Reply #52 on: August 13, 2018, 09:52:49 AM »
It would be some craic if Tyrone won with RTE trying to film the banquet through the hotel window.
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Re: Dublin v Tyrone 2018 All Ireland Final
« Reply #53 on: August 13, 2018, 10:28:42 AM »
Not going to lie that performance fro Tyrone today would see them hammered by the dubs. Do we have scope for huge improvement? Yes of course but it's a stretch to say we have much hope.

That said it's a one off game and we live in hope of the team pulling something out of the bag.

I think they’ll struggle v the dubs on a full size pitch.

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Re: Dublin v Tyrone 2018 All Ireland Final
« Reply #54 on: August 13, 2018, 10:35:56 AM »
It would be some craic if Tyrone won with RTE trying to film the banquet through the hotel window.
Just get the Apres Match boys in to do a "virtual" banquet.

They're great at doing the Ian Paisley-style whistle as they speak in Nordieish.

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Re: Dublin v Tyrone 2018 All Ireland Final
« Reply #55 on: August 13, 2018, 10:50:11 AM »
Tyrone have greater hunger, they will want this more, they won't be afraid to put their bodies on the line, they northern grit, they have their blanket, they have been written off and they will pin that to the wall, they are have flying in training, they have no expectation so no pressure, they've put in the hard yards, they are going to unleash the shackles, they have a system to test Dublin...

So after we listen to all that bolloxology cliche rubbish for the next 3 weeks the final will simply be Dublin doing what Dublin do as a brilliantly prepared and coached team, probe and probe, keeping the score board ticking over, big spurt, a little bit wayward, odd free or chance missed, only leading by 3 or 4 at half-time, more bolloxology about if Tyrone can get the next score, keep it tight, be in it with 10 to go, Dublin keeping probing, introduce freshness and pace, Tyrone start conceding frees, lead goes out to 6/7, game gets looser, bang Dublin goal, a couple more points, Tyrone rally with a few late scores Dublin win by 9-11 points. We've all seen this cartoon before, it's not going to change.

Afterwards will be more bolloxology as usual, we'll be told Kildare/Meath need to be doing more to challenge Dublin and other counties need to step up and put in the same structures as Dublin, who are really smart with their money investing it really well even though no new clubs or substantial increased rates in participation and falling supporter numbers.

The average age of the Dublin team is 25 years. They will win 4 in a row, perhaps not 5 but with the Championship structure as it is, remember Tyrone have lost 2 games, can anyone see Dublin losing 2 games a year especially when the vast majority of those games are at home?

Golden generations they said, they won the All-Ireland in 2011, from that team no Alan Brogan, no Bernard Brogan, no Diarmund Connolly, no Rory O'Carroll, no Ger Brennan, no Denis Bastick, no Kevin Nolan, no Barry Cahill, no Bryan Cullen.....

8 excellent footballers and Ger Brennan, all gone all replaced only 7 years later..... 

Maybe it will take Dublin winning 7/8 out of 10 but something needs to change, and it won't be the Monster in it's current guise. I have received dogs abuse for stating this over the last 5 years or so but I haven't been wrong.....




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Re: Dublin v Tyrone 2018 All Ireland Final
« Reply #56 on: August 13, 2018, 10:56:31 AM »
Bookies have Dublin -6 on the game.

Seems fair enough. Think most people realise it will be a mammoth task for Tyrone. Didn't think Tyrone would beat Monaghan but they got the goal when maybe they shouldn't have - Tyrone were in big trouble until then, hadn't scored for some time. Felt extremely sorry for O'Rourke at the end of the game in his interview, he was obviously gutted and maybe he had a point with Tyrone getting some calls handier. But, history is written by the winners and all that.

Eitherway, neither team can lay a hand on Dublin - to beat Dublin you need to score 3+ goals (Think Brolly mentioned you need about 20 points total, which is hard to argue with), I just don't see Tyrone scoring those goals with the way they play (which will not change). The game will likely play out much the same as the Super 8 Game in Omagh - The slight, slight chance I give Tyrone is that Cian O'Sullivan (one of the greatest players of modern times) looks to be an injury doubt. He is essential to Dublin, so good, so smart.

Tyrone will basically try and survive until the last 10 minutes, Dublin will try and finish them in the first 10. If they can dodge the goal, we may have a game but the way Dublin just swatted Galway aside was so impressive - they couldn't get near them.

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Re: Dublin v Tyrone 2018 All Ireland Final
« Reply #57 on: August 13, 2018, 10:58:18 AM »
Do Tyrone have the balls to go man to man on 3/4 of Dublin's main players?

can they improve their kicking accuracy in a few weeks?

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Re: Dublin v Tyrone 2018 All Ireland Final
« Reply #58 on: August 13, 2018, 11:02:16 AM »
You have laugh about kildare supporters giving out about resources. You see likes monaghan getting to semi final than kildare whingeing and making excuses for not making progress. If they put resources into youth structure instead of paying outside managers and poaching players from other counties. Interesting 3 lads gave up professional sport to play with county? Who funding this? Kevin Feely was getting 5k with Charlton. What are kildare cb contributing to him? He should be playing with his home country Waterford too. Kildare won 2 Leinster in noughties with kerry manager and player and a tipp and Cork player.

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Re: Dublin v Tyrone 2018 All Ireland Final
« Reply #59 on: August 13, 2018, 11:04:48 AM »
Do Tyrone have the balls to go man to man on 3/4 of Dublin's main players?

can they improve their kicking accuracy in a few weeks?

They did last day. Another 10 minutes in game and Tyrone would have won. Ronan O'Neil free should have been taken again.