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Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
« Reply #75 on: August 08, 2018, 05:59:36 PM »
Last 4 games here is what Galway's main scoring forwards scored in their games.

S Walsh 0-19 (14fs)
D Comer 0-7
I Burke 0-7
E Brannigan  0-2

Hardly the type of scoring from play that will give McMahon,Cooper,McCarthy,O'Sullivan etc sleepiness nights?

Galway's best chance in this game is keeping the Dublin score low and the lower the better if they want to cause a big upset as thats exactly how they have beaten Mayo the last 3 years. Two of those wins Mayo was down to 14 men and their recent wins over Kildare,Kerry they were down to 14 men also so it would probably be no harm to their cause if Dublin was to get one or two sent off this Saturday however 14 man Dublin closed out the league final very well against Galway.
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Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
« Reply #76 on: August 08, 2018, 07:05:53 PM »
I really think Galway have taken the wind out of their own sails by last weeks performance ,
when they looked around for leadership none was coming
had they gone for it they would easilt have beaten monaghan but they just don't seem to realize what a great attacking force they are Walsh Comer Branniagn and burke is as good or better than most in the country but Manager kevin  walshe welsh Walsh has them hide bound with fear .
their only hope v Dublin is an very fast open game and a shootout , which has little change of happening,
as a  result it could be humbling for them

Corrected that for you.

Burke has been great. Anyone who can't see what he does doesn't know football IMO. I actually think he's been our best forward during the championship. Walsh very good for the most part. Comer more up and down.

Brannigan was probably our best forward during the league but his shooting especially has gone to pot recently.

Hmm, I disagree with our opinion so you know nothing John Snow. I lauded Burke previously for his intelligence but his scoring rate is not good enough to be considered as good as if not better than most in the country. Only Walsh would be in the conversation for top 6 forwards in the country.
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Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
« Reply #77 on: August 08, 2018, 08:19:09 PM »
What kind of crowd expected? I assume Dubs will strongly out number Galway
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Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
« Reply #78 on: August 08, 2018, 09:16:24 PM »
Galway crowd attendance was a disgrace in Salthill last Saturday, I wouldn't expect much better for the next game.

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Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
« Reply #79 on: August 08, 2018, 09:18:01 PM »
Galway crowd attendance was a disgrace in Salthill last Saturday, I wouldn't expect much better for the next game.

Especially with the hurlers in the final soon
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Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
« Reply #80 on: August 08, 2018, 10:13:39 PM »
I really think Galway have taken the wind out of their own sails by last weeks performance ,
when they looked around for leadership none was coming
had they gone for it they would easilt have beaten monaghan but they just don't seem to realize what a great attacking force they are Walsh Comer Branniagn and burke is as good or better than most in the country but Manager kevin  walshe welsh Walsh has them hide bound with fear .
their only hope v Dublin is an very fast open game and a shootout , which has little change of happening,
as a  result it could be humbling for them

Corrected that for you.

Burke has been great. Anyone who can't see what he does doesn't know football IMO. I actually think he's been our best forward during the championship. Walsh very good for the most part. Comer more up and down.

Brannigan was probably our best forward during the league but his shooting especially has gone to pot recently.

Hmm, I disagree with our opinion so you know nothing John Snow. I lauded Burke previously for his intelligence but his scoring rate is not good enough to be considered as good as if not better than most in the country. Only Walsh would be in the conversation for top 6 forwards in the country.

Burke's assist rate is off the charts though. Up to last week at least he was statistically miles ahead of everyone else in the country in that regard. And he usually chips in with a couple himself.

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Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
« Reply #81 on: August 08, 2018, 10:49:34 PM »
A Galway win would be like Cork v Kerry 83 or Down v Kerry 91 or Mayo v Kerry 96

In fairness Kerry 1996 was a very inexperienced team.
None of those are in any way comparable.
Dublin have won 5 AIs in 7 years.
None of those 3 Kerry teams were reigning AI champions - in fact two of them hadnít won Munster in 5 years before that.
The all Ireland context is less important. Beating Dublin is psychological. Mayo couldn't do it. Tyrone couldn't do it. Kerry couldn't do it.
Since the end of the 60s ulster teams lost every time to Munster or Leinster opposition . Connacht teams couldn't manage it either. That was psychological.
Then Down beat Kerry. Everyone neutral expected Kerry to win. Everyone expects Dublin to win the next day.

Champions win in part because of the respect that the opposition gives them. Why do Real win so many Champions League finals ? 

It's interesting for Galway fans because the hurlers are in the incumbent role and the footballers are challenging and the dynamics for both are different.

Clare on Sunday had no problem scoring when 2 points down but they could not get an equalise in the last 10 minutes.

eh.. Mayo beat a Dublin team in 2012 that included Cluxton, Cian OíSullivan; James McCarthy, Flynn, MDMA, Kilkenny, Connolly and Brogan.

As for the game this Sunday, the bad weather that's promised will definitely suit Galway and I think it will be closer than expected. At the same time though, Galway are 11/2 for a reason and it's hard to make a case for them having enough to actually win it. 

 

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Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
« Reply #82 on: August 09, 2018, 01:03:44 AM »
I really think Galway have taken the wind out of their own sails by last weeks performance ,
when they looked around for leadership none was coming
had they gone for it they would easilt have beaten monaghan but they just don't seem to realize what a great attacking force they are Walsh Comer Branniagn and burke is as good or better than most in the country but Manager kevin  walshe welsh Walsh has them hide bound with fear .
their only hope v Dublin is an very fast open game and a shootout , which has little change of happening,
as a  result it could be humbling for them

Corrected that for you.

Burke has been great. Anyone who can't see what he does doesn't know football IMO. I actually think he's been our best forward during the championship. Walsh very good for the most part. Comer more up and down.

Brannigan was probably our best forward during the league but his shooting especially has gone to pot recently.

Hmm, I disagree with our opinion so you know nothing John Snow. I lauded Burke previously for his intelligence but his scoring rate is not good enough to be considered as good as if not better than most in the country. Only Walsh would be in the conversation for top 6 forwards in the country.

Burke's assist rate is off the charts though. Up to last week at least he was statistically miles ahead of everyone else in the country in that regard. And he usually chips in with a couple himself.

Was at the game Saturday, thought he had two or three scoring chances in first half from inside 30 yards with wind, he choose to pass.

IMO not decisive enough

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Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
« Reply #83 on: August 09, 2018, 07:02:35 AM »
Nobody seems to be giving Galway a chance but the sad fact about the state of the game is that Tweedledum and Tweedledee in the other semifinal would not be any better. After 3 and a half months of foostering around with provincials and qualifiers and Super 8s we get to the core problem. The GAA canít structure competitiveness. Maybe Horse Lawlorís goal will turn out to be the highlight of the summer with #newbridgeornowhere second.

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Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
« Reply #84 on: August 09, 2018, 02:38:38 PM »
A Galway win would be like Cork v Kerry 83 or Down v Kerry 91 or Mayo v Kerry 96

In fairness Kerry 1996 was a very inexperienced team.
None of those are in any way comparable.
Dublin have won 5 AIs in 7 years.
None of those 3 Kerry teams were reigning AI champions - in fact two of them hadnít won Munster in 5 years before that.
The all Ireland context is less important. Beating Dublin is psychological. Mayo couldn't do it. Tyrone couldn't do it. Kerry couldn't do it.
Since the end of the 60s ulster teams lost every time to Munster or Leinster opposition . Connacht teams couldn't manage it either. That was psychological.
Then Down beat Kerry. Everyone neutral expected Kerry to win. Everyone expects Dublin to win the next day.

Champions win in part because of the respect that the opposition gives them. Why do Real win so many Champions League finals ? 

It's interesting for Galway fans because the hurlers are in the incumbent role and the footballers are challenging and the dynamics for both are different.

Clare on Sunday had no problem scoring when 2 points down but they could not get an equalise in the last 10 minutes.

eh.. Mayo beat a Dublin team in 2012 that included Cluxton, Cian OíSullivan; James McCarthy, Flynn, MDMA, Kilkenny, Connolly and Brogan.

As for the game this Sunday, the bad weather that's promised will definitely suit Galway and I think it will be closer than expected. At the same time though, Galway are 11/2 for a reason and it's hard to make a case for them having enough to actually win it.

This Dublin team has won in all sorts of weather conditions - most notably the 2015 All Ireland final when there was a downpour from start to finish. So I donít think a wet day would benefit Galway in any way.
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Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
« Reply #85 on: August 09, 2018, 02:42:36 PM »
A Galway win would be like Cork v Kerry 83 or Down v Kerry 91 or Mayo v Kerry 96

In fairness Kerry 1996 was a very inexperienced team.
None of those are in any way comparable.
Dublin have won 5 AIs in 7 years.
None of those 3 Kerry teams were reigning AI champions - in fact two of them hadnít won Munster in 5 years before that.
The all Ireland context is less important. Beating Dublin is psychological. Mayo couldn't do it. Tyrone couldn't do it. Kerry couldn't do it.
Since the end of the 60s ulster teams lost every time to Munster or Leinster opposition . Connacht teams couldn't manage it either. That was psychological.
Then Down beat Kerry. Everyone neutral expected Kerry to win. Everyone expects Dublin to win the next day.

Champions win in part because of the respect that the opposition gives them. Why do Real win so many Champions League finals ? 

It's interesting for Galway fans because the hurlers are in the incumbent role and the footballers are challenging and the dynamics for both are different.

Clare on Sunday had no problem scoring when 2 points down but they could not get an equalise in the last 10 minutes.

eh.. Mayo beat a Dublin team in 2012 that included Cluxton, Cian OíSullivan; James McCarthy, Flynn, MDMA, Kilkenny, Connolly and Brogan.

As for the game this Sunday, the bad weather that's promised will definitely suit Galway and I think it will be closer than expected. At the same time though, Galway are 11/2 for a reason and it's hard to make a case for them having enough to actually win it.

This Dublin team has won in all sorts of weather conditions - most notably the 2015 All Ireland final when there was a downpour from start to finish. So I donít think a wet day would benefit Galway in any way.

I presume he means a wet day often keeps the score down so games tend to be closer in the wet.

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Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
« Reply #86 on: August 09, 2018, 02:46:40 PM »
A Galway win would be like Cork v Kerry 83 or Down v Kerry 91 or Mayo v Kerry 96

In fairness Kerry 1996 was a very inexperienced team.
None of those are in any way comparable.
Dublin have won 5 AIs in 7 years.
None of those 3 Kerry teams were reigning AI champions - in fact two of them hadnít won Munster in 5 years before that.
The all Ireland context is less important. Beating Dublin is psychological. Mayo couldn't do it. Tyrone couldn't do it. Kerry couldn't do it.
Since the end of the 60s ulster teams lost every time to Munster or Leinster opposition . Connacht teams couldn't manage it either. That was psychological.
Then Down beat Kerry. Everyone neutral expected Kerry to win. Everyone expects Dublin to win the next day.

Champions win in part because of the respect that the opposition gives them. Why do Real win so many Champions League finals ? 

It's interesting for Galway fans because the hurlers are in the incumbent role and the footballers are challenging and the dynamics for both are different.

Clare on Sunday had no problem scoring when 2 points down but they could not get an equalise in the last 10 minutes.

eh.. Mayo beat a Dublin team in 2012 that included Cluxton, Cian OíSullivan; James McCarthy, Flynn, MDMA, Kilkenny, Connolly and Brogan.

As for the game this Sunday, the bad weather that's promised will definitely suit Galway and I think it will be closer than expected. At the same time though, Galway are 11/2 for a reason and it's hard to make a case for them having enough to actually win it.

This Dublin team has won in all sorts of weather conditions - most notably the 2015 All Ireland final when there was a downpour from start to finish. So I donít think a wet day would benefit Galway in any way.

I presume he means a wet day often keeps the score down so games tend to be closer in the wet.

A fair point.
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Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
« Reply #87 on: August 09, 2018, 03:03:35 PM »
I remember us destroying Tyrone in a downpour in 2011.

And, to be fair, I remember them destroying us in a similar downpour in 2008.

This will be tighter then people think.

Dubs not the force of before, specifically 2015/2016 which I think will be seen as the high water mark of Gavin's reign.

Still should win here, but whoever comes out of the other semi has a big chance in the final.


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Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
« Reply #88 on: August 09, 2018, 03:22:26 PM »
I remember us destroying Tyrone in a downpour in 2011.

And, to be fair, I remember them destroying us in a similar downpour in 2008.

This will be tighter then people think.

Dubs not the force of before, specifically 2015/2016 which I think will be seen as the high water mark of Gavin's reign.

Still should win here, but whoever comes out of the other semi has a big chance in the final.
If the Dubs win the final will be a turkey shoot.
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Re: Galway vs Dublin - All Ireland Semi Final - 11/8/2018
« Reply #89 on: August 09, 2018, 03:44:40 PM »
On what basis are you predicting that? Nothing we've seen suggests Galway are significantly better than Monaghan or Tyrone and Dublin usually just get over the line in finals. Odd that you seem to give Galway a good chance this weekend yet expect Monaghan or Tyrone to be hammered. Can't see any logic in that line of thought.