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« Reply #375 on: August 16, 2018, 12:25:42 PM »
Antrim should be more competitive. The reason they are not, is down to the administration within the county. Not Money, Not Croke Park, Not Soccer, Not Protestants. The reason lies firmly within the County board. 

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« Reply #376 on: August 16, 2018, 12:58:19 PM »
Antrim should be more competitive. The reason they are not, is down to the administration within the county. Not Money, Not Croke Park, Not Soccer, Not Protestants. The reason lies firmly within the County board.

Young lads in Belfast are more interested in boxing and soccer than playing Gaelic football. Nothing wrong with that of course, but therein lies the problem with Antrim GAA. Those that do stick with the GAA enter into a country v county dynamic on the county team.

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« Reply #377 on: August 16, 2018, 01:09:58 PM »
Antrim should be more competitive. The reason they are not, is down to the administration within the county. Not Money, Not Croke Park, Not Soccer, Not Protestants. The reason lies firmly within the County board.

Young lads in Belfast are more interested in boxing and soccer than playing Gaelic football. Nothing wrong with that of course, but therein lies the problem with Antrim GAA. Those that do stick with the GAA enter into a country v county dynamic on the county team.

Yeah that's fine. My point is more that throwing huge sums of money at the problem won't fix it without a proper strategic plan. There is no quick fix.

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« Reply #378 on: August 16, 2018, 01:10:50 PM »
If you have c 100k Nationalist Population in Belfast ( Antrim CB parts) you should be looking at 3,000 registered GAA playing members if you have the same percentage as Dublin.
Anyone know the figure or an educated guess.
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« Reply #379 on: August 16, 2018, 01:22:46 PM »
If you have c 100k Nationalist Population in Belfast ( Antrim CB parts) you should be looking at 3,000 registered GAA playing members if you have the same percentage as Dublin.
Anyone know the figure or an educated guess.

Don't know about registered players but with regards the nationalist population in Antrim part of belfast is closer to 150k I would say.

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« Reply #380 on: August 16, 2018, 02:11:58 PM »
http://www.punditarena.com/gaa/hurling/smcmahon/unforgettable-summer-hurling-backed-tv-viewing-figures/

'The increased popularity and the ability to capture the imagination of the Irish sporting public was reflected in the combined attendance of the hurling semi-finals being greater than that of the football semi-finals which were held last weekend.

This also holds true for TV viewership figures. For matches broadcast by RTÉ in both football and hurling which reached over 300,000 viewers – 10 of them came from hurling games while only five came from football games, according to figures released by RTÉ to Sport For Business.'
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« Reply #381 on: August 16, 2018, 02:12:33 PM »
Taken form another board.

Interesting stat from Colm keys in indo today.

Limerick around 2006 had only 8% of primary kids involved in playing GAA sports, after then starting 5 year plan, this jumped to 57% in 2011…now paying dividends.

"They were the only county in my nine years on CCC2 (Dublin) that were in contact with us to ask us what we were doing and to get some advice. On the contrary we had clubs from Meath, Wicklow and Kildare trying to enter our under age club competitions because their set ups were cat. Well done Limerick.

Did not see anything in the article about what you mentioned?

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/how-success-of-munster-rugby-saved-limerick-hurling-37217211.html

The first part is from the article, the contact to Dublin part is from the board.

You are throwing up a  unreferenced quote from another Board as Bible? Why was it not mentioned in the original article?

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« Reply #382 on: August 16, 2018, 09:13:50 PM »
Belfast has the country v county problem for sure. But also some ridiculous stuff from the county board like that carry on a few years ago where the st galls lads had a hurling game the day before the antrim football so they were all dropped for the antrim game, after travelling to the match. Any wonder lads are put off.

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« Reply #383 on: August 17, 2018, 03:00:03 PM »
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/alan-brogan-in-2005-dublin-and-tyrone-tried-to-score-with-every-play-in-2018-it-has-become-a-different-sport-37225574.html

Good article by Alan Brogan on how the game has changed in a decade. The youtube video of the game he refers to is worth looking at and the contrast in playing style and most notably how muted crowds have become at matches. There is very little ebb and flow to gaelic football anymore, just plenty of crowd conversation as the ball is filtered sideways in possession for long spells. The atmosphere then at the big matches was more akin to hurling now which has maintained is excitement levels.   

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« Reply #384 on: August 17, 2018, 03:02:53 PM »



Modern gaelic football.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

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« Reply #386 on: August 17, 2018, 03:11:30 PM »
When winning is everything then teams will do anything to win.

You can't blame Dublin for getting it right these past few years, the game that became very defensive isnt Dublin's fault, its up to the tacticians to break the current mould, seek players that will play a certain way or fit into a system..
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« Reply #387 on: August 17, 2018, 03:24:57 PM »
I was away, so didn't see it, but heard from a good few fellow Dubs that the U21 final between Kildare and Mayo was a cracking game.  And under the current rules too!

All is not lost.

A super 8 group in a couple of years of Dublin, Kerry, Kildare and Mayo could be awesome  ;D


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« Reply #388 on: August 17, 2018, 03:25:38 PM »
When winning is everything then teams will do anything to win.

You can't blame Dublin for getting it right these past few years, the game that became very defensive isnt Dublin's fault, its up to the tacticians to break the current mould, seek players that will play a certain way or fit into a system..

Never heard worse!

Nothing to do with Dublin, this has been a gradual decendency into this style of football.  Started with 3rd Midfielder; then the sweeper; then the double sweeper and the blanket; we had Tyrone's swarm; Derry's lockout in 2006, Donegal under McGuinness and we've reached borefest.  You think that the answer lies in tactics.  Tactics might beat Dublin, but they aren't going to provide entertainment.  Tactics have taken us into a cul-de-sac and the only thing to do is to change the rules.

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« Reply #389 on: August 17, 2018, 03:31:02 PM »
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/alan-brogan-in-2005-dublin-and-tyrone-tried-to-score-with-every-play-in-2018-it-has-become-a-different-sport-37225574.html


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Both teams tried to score with every play.

And both teams operated with the mindset that the best way to win was to run up as big a score as quickly as possible.


There is still a few teams at senior level that play that way and when they are well beaten by the better sides that all play the "modern" way they can't figure out what went wrong.


Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose