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« Reply #360 on: August 16, 2018, 09:30:23 AM »
Split Dublin in 2. Dublin and Jim Gavin. If Dublin continue to dominate Gaelic football after he goes, then the rest of us are doomed.

They already have an identikit prototype mocked up in a lab in UCD ready to take his place. You’ll not even notice he’s gone.
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« Reply #361 on: August 16, 2018, 09:38:16 AM »
Kilkenny hasn't 1.3m population.
I think hey've the smallest population of the 9 main hurling Counties.

And? So its just a numbers game? The county with the biggest numbers wins? Kerry have 37, 10 more than Dublin

Kilkenny won 11 from the year 2000

Dublin have won 5 in that same time period

So why do your own county, or mine, Laois never win an All Ireland?

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« Reply #362 on: August 16, 2018, 10:16:38 AM »
Kilkenny hasn't 1.3m population.
I think hey've the smallest population of the 9 main hurling Counties.

And? So its just a numbers game? The county with the biggest numbers wins? Kerry have 37, 10 more than Dublin

Kilkenny won 11 from the year 2000

Dublin have won 5 in that same time period

So why do your own county, or mine, Laois never win an All Ireland?

Because the players over the years are not committed enough to do anything about it.. Its a life style choice.. At club level I seen first hand what is required to win an All Ireland, times that by 10 to have a chance at county level.

This isnt a dig at current or past players of my county, its just been that way and to get out of it needs luck, coordination, investment (not just money) from coaches and county boards but mainly the players..

Players planning to go away to the States or Oz doesnt help either but hey, who can blame them.. The Dub Tyrone Donegal and Mayo lads (and the other super 8's) have a goal or a slim chance of eating at the top table, they stay..

The list goes on, but its not because they are not semi professional.. plenty teachers and students on the Antrim panels over the years, one could say they have more time to prepare over the summer months, but the reality is to win or compete for medals you have to do the leg work in the winter!
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« Reply #363 on: August 16, 2018, 10:36:15 AM »
Taken form another board.

Interesting stat from Colm keys in indo today.

Limerick around 2006 had only 8% of primary kids involved in playing GAA sports, after then starting 5 year plan, this jumped to 57% in 2011…now paying dividends.

"They were the only county in my nine years on CCC2 (Dublin) that were in contact with us to ask us what we were doing and to get some advice. On the contrary we had clubs from Meath, Wicklow and Kildare trying to enter our under age club competitions because their set ups were cat. Well done Limerick.

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« Reply #364 on: August 16, 2018, 10:40:02 AM »
Kilkenny hasn't 1.3m population.
I think hey've the smallest population of the 9 main hurling Counties.

And? So its just a numbers game? The county with the biggest numbers wins? Kerry have 37, 10 more than Dublin

Kilkenny won 11 from the year 2000

Dublin have won 5 in that same time period

So why do your own county, or mine, Laois never win an All Ireland?

Because the players over the years are not committed enough to do anything about it.. Its a life style choice.. At club level I seen first hand what is required to win an All Ireland, times that by 10 to have a chance at county level.

This isnt a dig at current or past players of my county, its just been that way and to get out of it needs luck, coordination, investment (not just money) from coaches and county boards but mainly the players..

Players planning to go away to the States or Oz doesnt help either but hey, who can blame them.. The Dub Tyrone Donegal and Mayo lads (and the other super 8's) have a goal or a slim chance of eating at the top table, they stay..

The list goes on, but its not because they are not semi professional.. plenty teachers and students on the Antrim panels over the years, one could say they have more time to prepare over the summer months, but the reality is to win or compete for medals you have to do the leg work in the winter!

Jez, you are away with the fairies if you think leg work in the winter will bridge the gap!

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« Reply #365 on: August 16, 2018, 10:40:25 AM »
Your argument suggests that any county, with hard work and commitment, can be competitive at All Ireland level? Maybe I'm picking you up wrong. Let's be honest here, the top teams are discarding lads who would walk into the Laois and Antrim sides. The pool of talent is not there and counties like ours rely on a golden period. I disagree with you about the extent to which Dublin lads are working, because it's clear to me that they are lucky enough to be able to work around football as opposed to vice versa. They also get enticements the like of which cannot be replicated elsewhere. And again I say good luck to them, but knowing what I know here in Laois, we cannot ever compete with that

I strongly believe that inter county football is a waste of time. I resent the fact that the best footballer ever, if he was born in a smaller county, would never be able to play at the highest level. This is not going to change. The same counties will be playing for the same prizes forever and the rest of us should just roll over and have our bellies tickled.

« Last Edit: August 16, 2018, 10:47:18 AM by High Fielder »

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« Reply #366 on: August 16, 2018, 10:48:07 AM »
Taken form another board.

Interesting stat from Colm keys in indo today.

Limerick around 2006 had only 8% of primary kids involved in playing GAA sports, after then starting 5 year plan, this jumped to 57% in 2011…now paying dividends.

"They were the only county in my nine years on CCC2 (Dublin) that were in contact with us to ask us what we were doing and to get some advice. On the contrary we had clubs from Meath, Wicklow and Kildare trying to enter our under age club competitions because their set ups were cat. Well done Limerick.

Did not see anything in the article about what you mentioned?

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/how-success-of-munster-rugby-saved-limerick-hurling-37217211.html

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« Reply #367 on: August 16, 2018, 10:55:27 AM »
Kilkenny hasn't 1.3m population.
I think hey've the smallest population of the 9 main hurling Counties.

And? So its just a numbers game? The county with the biggest numbers wins? Kerry have 37, 10 more than Dublin

Kilkenny won 11 from the year 2000

Dublin have won 5 in that same time period
So Leitrim just need to work harder and they'll win a scatter if AIs? ?
Anyway what about Antrim with 200k Nationalist population and a Traditional hurling area.
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« Reply #368 on: August 16, 2018, 11:22:49 AM »
Kilkenny hasn't 1.3m population.
I think hey've the smallest population of the 9 main hurling Counties.

And? So its just a numbers game? The county with the biggest numbers wins? Kerry have 37, 10 more than Dublin

Kilkenny won 11 from the year 2000

Dublin have won 5 in that same time period

So why do your own county, or mine, Laois never win an All Ireland?

Because the players over the years are not committed enough to do anything about it.. Its a life style choice.. At club level I seen first hand what is required to win an All Ireland, times that by 10 to have a chance at county level.

This isnt a dig at current or past players of my county, its just been that way and to get out of it needs luck, coordination, investment (not just money) from coaches and county boards but mainly the players..

Players planning to go away to the States or Oz doesnt help either but hey, who can blame them.. The Dub Tyrone Donegal and Mayo lads (and the other super 8's) have a goal or a slim chance of eating at the top table, they stay..

The list goes on, but its not because they are not semi professional.. plenty teachers and students on the Antrim panels over the years, one could say they have more time to prepare over the summer months, but the reality is to win or compete for medals you have to do the leg work in the winter!

Jez, you are away with the fairies if you think leg work in the winter will bridge the gap!

Did you read the post knob? I'll highlight it for you just in case you're finding it difficult..

Anything I post is not the view of the County Board!! Nobody died in the making of this post ;-)

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« Reply #369 on: August 16, 2018, 11:27:15 AM »
Kilkenny hasn't 1.3m population.
I think hey've the smallest population of the 9 main hurling Counties.

And? So its just a numbers game? The county with the biggest numbers wins? Kerry have 37, 10 more than Dublin

Kilkenny won 11 from the year 2000

Dublin have won 5 in that same time period

So why do your own county, or mine, Laois never win an All Ireland?

Because the players over the years are not committed enough to do anything about it.. Its a life style choice.. At club level I seen first hand what is required to win an All Ireland, times that by 10 to have a chance at county level.

This isnt a dig at current or past players of my county, its just been that way and to get out of it needs luck, coordination, investment (not just money) from coaches and county boards but mainly the players..

Players planning to go away to the States or Oz doesnt help either but hey, who can blame them.. The Dub Tyrone Donegal and Mayo lads (and the other super 8's) have a goal or a slim chance of eating at the top table, they stay..

The list goes on, but its not because they are not semi professional.. plenty teachers and students on the Antrim panels over the years, one could say they have more time to prepare over the summer months, but the reality is to win or compete for medals you have to do the leg work in the winter!

Jez, you are away with the fairies if you think leg work in the winter will bridge the gap!

Did you read the post knob? I'll highlight it for you just in case you're finding it difficult..

I read it and it sounds like you are another cheerleader for the Blue Army.

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« Reply #370 on: August 16, 2018, 11:29:33 AM »
Taken form another board.

Interesting stat from Colm keys in indo today.

Limerick around 2006 had only 8% of primary kids involved in playing GAA sports, after then starting 5 year plan, this jumped to 57% in 2011…now paying dividends.

"They were the only county in my nine years on CCC2 (Dublin) that were in contact with us to ask us what we were doing and to get some advice. On the contrary we had clubs from Meath, Wicklow and Kildare trying to enter our under age club competitions because their set ups were cat. Well done Limerick.

Did not see anything in the article about what you mentioned?

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/how-success-of-munster-rugby-saved-limerick-hurling-37217211.html

The first part is from the article, the contact to Dublin part is from the board.

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« Reply #371 on: August 16, 2018, 11:30:10 AM »
Kilkenny hasn't 1.3m population.
I think hey've the smallest population of the 9 main hurling Counties.

And? So its just a numbers game? The county with the biggest numbers wins? Kerry have 37, 10 more than Dublin

Kilkenny won 11 from the year 2000

Dublin have won 5 in that same time period
So Leitrim just need to work harder and they'll win a scatter if AIs? ?
Anyway what about Antrim with 200k Nationalist population and a Traditional hurling area.

200k nationalist population, so cut that in half (women) then put in the different sports that people play, soccer, drinking and chasing women.. As for hurling we are at the right level, good competitive games aginst teams of the same level..

Football christ knows, we havent been competitive (bar one year) since the 50's there's a whole thread on it on the Antrim section if you care to read.. But this isnt about Antrim our Leitrim or even you're own county, its about people getting worked up over Dublin winning 5 titles since 2000
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« Reply #372 on: August 16, 2018, 11:37:06 AM »
Kilkenny hasn't 1.3m population.
I think hey've the smallest population of the 9 main hurling Counties.

And? So its just a numbers game? The county with the biggest numbers wins? Kerry have 37, 10 more than Dublin

Kilkenny won 11 from the year 2000

Dublin have won 5 in that same time period
So Leitrim just need to work harder and they'll win a scatter if AIs? ?
Anyway what about Antrim with 200k Nationalist population and a Traditional hurling area.

200k nationalist population, so cut that in half (women) then put in the different sports that people play, soccer, drinking and chasing women.. As for hurling we are at the right level, good competitive games aginst teams of the same level..

Football christ knows, we havent been competitive (bar one year) since the 50's there's a whole thread on it on the Antrim section if you care to read.. But this isnt about Antrim our Leitrim or even you're own county, its about people getting worked up over Dublin winning 5 titles since 2000

They have won 8 Leinster, 5 (and more likely 6 this year) All Irelands and 5 League titles since 2011.

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« Reply #373 on: August 16, 2018, 11:48:53 AM »
I have to say I bear no ill feeling towards the Dubs. I just don't believe Laois have any business being on the same pitch as them. Some will say that's defeatist, unambitious and disloyal, but I think it's realistic. There is way too much romantic ideaology floating around in the GAA about the endless possibilities of smaller counties one day getting their hands on All Ireland. Could you be bothered flogging a dead horse that long? Rip it up and start again because the imbalances that exist make inter county football and hurling flawed

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« Reply #374 on: August 16, 2018, 11:56:36 AM »
Kilkenny hasn't 1.3m population.
I think hey've the smallest population of the 9 main hurling Counties.

And? So its just a numbers game? The county with the biggest numbers wins? Kerry have 37, 10 more than Dublin

Kilkenny won 11 from the year 2000

Dublin have won 5 in that same time period
So Leitrim just need to work harder and they'll win a scatter if AIs? ?
Anyway what about Antrim with 200k Nationalist population and a Traditional hurling area.

200k nationalist population, so cut that in half (women) then put in the different sports that people play, soccer, drinking and chasing women.. As for hurling we are at the right level, good competitive games aginst teams of the same level..

Football christ knows, we havent been competitive (bar one year) since the 50's there's a whole thread on it on the Antrim section if you care to read.. But this isnt about Antrim our Leitrim or even you're own county, its about people getting worked up over Dublin winning 5 titles since 2000

They have won 8 Leinster, 5 (and more likely 6 this year) All Irelands and 5 League titles since 2011.

And Kilkenny had the same during period of dominance, no one called for splitting Kilkenny in half, changing the rules or saying their players were full time professionals!
Anything I post is not the view of the County Board!! Nobody died in the making of this post ;-)