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Re: Galway v Kerry. Super 8s Round 1. 15 July Croke Park.
« Reply #195 on: July 17, 2018, 01:52:43 PM »
The atmosphere was dire, for as bad as turnout it was from Galway I think we still outnumbered Kerry 2:1.

Most of us Galway posters were still criticising the kickout strategy in the early rounds of the league, got to give them credit as there's been a significant improvement at both ends of the pitch and in Lavelle's kicking; He's really impressed me this season and has continued to improve.

I'd bump that to nearly 3:1, there wasn't a sinner from Kerry at it.

In fairness, Lavelle was fantastic with the restarts at the weekend and has improved no end, to bounce back from the Roscommon debacle last year is some going.
His kick to an on running Kerin right on the sideline over the Kerry player in the first half displayed the confidence he is kicking with, there was no room for error and it was straight into the breadbasket. When a short one or a free man isn't available there's a plan now, put plenty of men in one area beside the sideline, pump it out and try to win the break, it's not that sophisticated but there is at least a clear plan in place, that wasn't the case last year or earlier this year. Galway were definitely helped in how poor Kerry were in the middle third though, I don't know if it was the conditions but David Moran's legs looked like they were gone on Sunday anyway.

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« Reply #196 on: July 17, 2018, 01:54:34 PM »


It appeared that Galway's wides were from more scoreable angles than Kerry's on the whole, I wouldn't be hugely worried although thats the 2nd game in a row where Brannigan has been guilty of some poor misses and it was a problem for him in previous years.

As for Kerry the hpye they got was ridiclous it transpired, you'd expect the nonsense from Brolly but Tomas O'Se fell into the trap and got very carried away with predicting Kerry to hammer Galway. In fairness I listened to Quirke & O'Cinneide on Friday and both were far more cautious. Kerry may have won the last 4 minors titles but they've still done nothing at u20 level and haven't won a game outside of the province at that level since 2008, their minor teams have been taller and more physical than anyone else's and it makes a huge difference at that age. Kerry could still reach the final but I just don't see how they could trouble the Dubs, they've too much work to do in such a short space of time.

Armstrong didn't feature yesterday, is he injured? As for Galway injuries are starting to mount and its a concern, forwards wise out strength in depth is good with Varley especially having a big impact in every game he's came on in. Midfield now a worry with Conroy & Duggan out, lets hope Conroy makes a speedy recovery. I'd be worried if we picked up an injury in the defence, certainly not as stacked as the forwards. 

Most of us Galway posters were still criticising the kickout strategy in the early rounds of the league, got to give them credit as there's been a significant improvement at both ends of the pitch and in Lavelle's kicking; He's really impressed me this season and has continued to improve.

Other thoughts;
Brannigan was better Sunday than the Connacht final, but needs to kick on again and really show that he can do it at the highest level (personally I have my doubts but will be delighted to be proved wrong).

Hope Daly gets another chance to show what he's capable off, maybe a more open game will suit him, not that there's going to be many of them.

Walsh has now taken on the mantle of being our most important player; superbly skillful and starting to take more of the right options. Comer is vital too but nowhere near as skillful as Walsh or varied in his play.

Anyone notice we changed our sub goalie?

Injuries are starting to mount up but Duggan may be back soonish. Dreadful luck to Paul Conroy, and hopefully, like Tom Parsons, not career-threatening. Without meaning to be harsh though, he's no huge loss to midfield as his best work in more recent games came in attack anyway. Armstrong cried off with injury beforehand also. Our forward options are getting stretched a bit also.

Kerry were incredibly terrible though, particularly in midfield.

Brannigan is still only 22/23 and I do think his shooting can be worked on. Overall I was impressed with his performance, he's probably a similar style player to Stephen O'Brien in stature and pace but offers a lot more to the team than O'Brien does. Great to see Daly back, he was bound to be a bit rusty given it was his first start in nearly 12 months.

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Re: Galway v Kerry. Super 8s Round 1. 15 July Croke Park.
« Reply #197 on: July 17, 2018, 02:13:59 PM »


It appeared that Galway's wides were from more scoreable angles than Kerry's on the whole, I wouldn't be hugely worried although thats the 2nd game in a row where Brannigan has been guilty of some poor misses and it was a problem for him in previous years.

As for Kerry the hpye they got was ridiclous it transpired, you'd expect the nonsense from Brolly but Tomas O'Se fell into the trap and got very carried away with predicting Kerry to hammer Galway. In fairness I listened to Quirke & O'Cinneide on Friday and both were far more cautious. Kerry may have won the last 4 minors titles but they've still done nothing at u20 level and haven't won a game outside of the province at that level since 2008, their minor teams have been taller and more physical than anyone else's and it makes a huge difference at that age. Kerry could still reach the final but I just don't see how they could trouble the Dubs, they've too much work to do in such a short space of time.

Armstrong didn't feature yesterday, is he injured? As for Galway injuries are starting to mount and its a concern, forwards wise out strength in depth is good with Varley especially having a big impact in every game he's came on in. Midfield now a worry with Conroy & Duggan out, lets hope Conroy makes a speedy recovery. I'd be worried if we picked up an injury in the defence, certainly not as stacked as the forwards. 

Most of us Galway posters were still criticising the kickout strategy in the early rounds of the league, got to give them credit as there's been a significant improvement at both ends of the pitch and in Lavelle's kicking; He's really impressed me this season and has continued to improve.

Other thoughts;
Brannigan was better Sunday than the Connacht final, but needs to kick on again and really show that he can do it at the highest level (personally I have my doubts but will be delighted to be proved wrong).

Hope Daly gets another chance to show what he's capable off, maybe a more open game will suit him, not that there's going to be many of them.

Walsh has now taken on the mantle of being our most important player; superbly skillful and starting to take more of the right options. Comer is vital too but nowhere near as skillful as Walsh or varied in his play.

Anyone notice we changed our sub goalie?

Injuries are starting to mount up but Duggan may be back soonish. Dreadful luck to Paul Conroy, and hopefully, like Tom Parsons, not career-threatening. Without meaning to be harsh though, he's no huge loss to midfield as his best work in more recent games came in attack anyway. Armstrong cried off with injury beforehand also. Our forward options are getting stretched a bit also.

Kerry were incredibly terrible though, particularly in midfield.

Brannigan is still only 22/23 and I do think his shooting can be worked on. Overall I was impressed with his performance, he's probably a similar style player to Stephen O'Brien in stature and pace but offers a lot more to the team than O'Brien does. Great to see Daly back, he was bound to be a bit rusty given it was his first start in nearly 12 months.

Thought Daly looked nervous or something. He kicked a few terrible wides for a lad who is normally a very good point scorer from distance. These ones should have been gimmes for him but he snatched at them. It was his first start for Galway in ages though so maybe understandable that he was a bit skittish.

Might struggle to hold his place as Varley has been doing so well off the bench but maybe no harm in keeping Varley as a bench option either.
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Re: Galway v Kerry. Super 8s Round 1. 15 July Croke Park.
« Reply #198 on: July 17, 2018, 02:35:18 PM »
There is a lot of merit introducing Varley against a tiring defence, has been very effective to date in the championship.  As I mentioned last week, the more timely introduction of subs since the league final has been a welcome progression.  Daly did look nervous on Sun but I think he will get another start this weekend coming.

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« Reply #199 on: July 18, 2018, 09:59:18 AM »
This is nice for a change

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/darragh--s-kerry-hurting-because-they-lack-the-men-to-lead-them-1.3568403
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« Reply #200 on: July 18, 2018, 10:57:39 AM »
Watched it again last night, plenty to work on from a Galway point of view. Both teams had a lot of wides but Galway were certainly guiltier of missing the clearer chances. Heaney's & Cooke's misses in the 2nd half were shocking whilst Daly & Brannigan missed 2 each. Daly is normally very accurate and I'd expect a fully fit Daly to nail both of them, Brannigan is more hit and miss. Walsh should have scored too in the first half, was under no pressure and just outside the D. Comer hit a few wides but they were from more speculative angles.

Galway really should have scored at least 1-17, Galway would normally hit a few great scores from distance but that didn't happen on Sunday; I think Varley's 1st score was the only one that was about 5 yards outside the D. Galway were 2 points up when Young was sent off, they really should have been 4 or 5 points up at the time.

AFU is right about Comer, he just isn't getting the space Burke did but there was 3 occasions on Sunday when Comer was out in front of his man and the ball into him was diabolical, think that happened 3 times; He was on on the 20m line on each occasion and we all know how dangerous he is if he gets the ball in hand and gets turned, he'll win frees all day long.

Sean Kelly again was outstanding, for a lad I thought wouldn't be strong enough he's really exceeded my expectations, he has some set of lungs on him.


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« Reply #201 on: July 18, 2018, 11:09:51 AM »
Kerry fans are the oddest bunch I ever came across , I counted eight Kerry jerseys in the hotel when the game was going on including a family of four who were watching the soccer. The hotel was a tad disgraceful too , the two big screens had the soccer on with full volume , we had to settle for small TV's at the bar with no volume .

Before it's said why didn't you go across the road , I never would pay in to watch other counties play .
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« Reply #202 on: July 18, 2018, 11:27:26 AM »
This is nice for a change

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/darragh--s-kerry-hurting-because-they-lack-the-men-to-lead-them-1.3568403

That just sounds very much like Darragh O'Se sticking up for his mate and pointing the blame at the players. Fitzmaurice is ultimately the one who picks the team and makes the changes.

I'd expect a big reaction from Kerry on Sunday but they will be going into a bearpit in Clones and if Monaghan bring a dogs of war mentality that they are capable of, then Kerry could be in big trouble and facing the humiliating prospect of playing a dead rubber in Killarney on match day 3.

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« Reply #203 on: July 18, 2018, 01:56:22 PM »
Presuming Flynn and Cooke can't both play 70+ full minutes in every game going forward who exactly is going to cover midfield off the bench? I don't think there was another specialist midfielder on the bench against Kerry.

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« Reply #204 on: July 18, 2018, 01:59:50 PM »
This is nice for a change

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/darragh--s-kerry-hurting-because-they-lack-the-men-to-lead-them-1.3568403

That just sounds very much like Darragh O'Se sticking up for his mate and pointing the blame at the players. Fitzmaurice is ultimately the one who picks the team and makes the changes.

I'd expect a big reaction from Kerry on Sunday but they will be going into a bearpit in Clones and if Monaghan bring a dogs of war mentality that they are capable of, then Kerry could be in big trouble and facing the humiliating prospect of playing a dead rubber in Killarney on match day 3.

Kerry had a collective (with the exception of Clifford and Moran for the most part) off day. O'Donaghue, Geany etc etc etc all misfired. I still think they'll win it this year, or at the very least, run Dublin closest.

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Re: Galway v Kerry. Super 8s Round 1. 15 July Croke Park.
« Reply #205 on: July 18, 2018, 02:54:12 PM »
Presuming Flynn and Cooke can't both play 70+ full minutes in every game going forward who exactly is going to cover midfield off the bench? I don't think there was another specialist midfielder on the bench against Kerry.

Cein Darcy is on the training panel I believe, Fiontan Curraoin is back training too by the sound of things but you'd question what he'd offer at this stage of the competition after nearly a full year out of the game after his leg break. I still think the axing of Ronan Steede from the panel in April was a mistake. Not saying he'd be an option to start but he'd be good to have to throw in after 50 minutes when fresh legs are needed, he has plenty of experience of playing at a high level and he's an excellent kick passer.

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« Reply #206 on: July 19, 2018, 12:48:15 PM »
Presuming Flynn and Cooke can't both play 70+ full minutes in every game going forward who exactly is going to cover midfield off the bench? I don't think there was another specialist midfielder on the bench against Kerry.

Cein Darcy is on the training panel I believe, Fiontan Curraoin is back training too by the sound of things but you'd question what he'd offer at this stage of the competition after nearly a full year out of the game after his leg break. I still think the axing of Ronan Steede from the panel in April was a mistake. Not saying he'd be an option to start but he'd be good to have to throw in after 50 minutes when fresh legs are needed, he has plenty of experience of playing at a high level and he's an excellent kick passer.

Never been a huge FOC fan, he's never kicked on from his u21 days although neither had Flynn until the last few months but as you say he's been out injured for so long its hard to make a case for him making an impact. I'm a huge fan of D'Arcy from what I've seen him of him so far but given he's still u20 and that he's in a position is very physically demanding he may not be ready to play championship just yet.

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« Reply #207 on: July 19, 2018, 12:56:02 PM »
Presuming Flynn and Cooke can't both play 70+ full minutes in every game going forward who exactly is going to cover midfield off the bench? I don't think there was another specialist midfielder on the bench against Kerry.

Cein Darcy is on the training panel I believe, Fiontan Curraoin is back training too by the sound of things but you'd question what he'd offer at this stage of the competition after nearly a full year out of the game after his leg break. I still think the axing of Ronan Steede from the panel in April was a mistake. Not saying he'd be an option to start but he'd be good to have to throw in after 50 minutes when fresh legs are needed, he has plenty of experience of playing at a high level and he's an excellent kick passer.

Never been a huge FOC fan, he's never kicked on from his u21 days although neither had Flynn until the last few months but as you say he's been out injured for so long its hard to make a case for him making an impact. I'm a huge fan of D'Arcy from what I've seen him of him so far but given he's still u20 and that he's in a position is very physically demanding he may not be ready to play championship just yet.
We have no sub midfielders though if we dont use either DArcy or FOC so at least one of them will have to be on the bench in Newbridge.
Possibly GOD or Daly (play there for M/M) could do an emergency shift there during the game if needs be.

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« Reply #208 on: July 19, 2018, 01:09:06 PM »
Presuming Flynn and Cooke can't both play 70+ full minutes in every game going forward who exactly is going to cover midfield off the bench? I don't think there was another specialist midfielder on the bench against Kerry.

Cein Darcy is on the training panel I believe, Fiontan Curraoin is back training too by the sound of things but you'd question what he'd offer at this stage of the competition after nearly a full year out of the game after his leg break. I still think the axing of Ronan Steede from the panel in April was a mistake. Not saying he'd be an option to start but he'd be good to have to throw in after 50 minutes when fresh legs are needed, he has plenty of experience of playing at a high level and he's an excellent kick passer.

Never been a huge FOC fan, he's never kicked on from his u21 days although neither had Flynn until the last few months but as you say he's been out injured for so long its hard to make a case for him making an impact. I'm a huge fan of D'Arcy from what I've seen him of him so far but given he's still u20 and that he's in a position is very physically demanding he may not be ready to play championship just yet.
We have no sub midfielders though if we dont use either DArcy or FOC so at least one of them will have to be on the bench in Newbridge.
Possibly GOD or Daly (play there for M/M) could do an emergency shift there during the game if needs be.

I'd say Darcy will be on the bench in Newbridge, he'd have to be ahead of Fiontan match sharpness wise. Daly is also an option as you said galwayman, hopefully he gets another chance this weekend, he has so much potential but just didn't get going last weekend. Thought it was a strange decision to start him to be honest when he has very little football played between league and championship.

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Re: Galway v Kerry. Super 8s Round 1. 15 July Croke Park.
« Reply #209 on: July 19, 2018, 01:32:44 PM »
Presuming Flynn and Cooke can't both play 70+ full minutes in every game going forward who exactly is going to cover midfield off the bench? I don't think there was another specialist midfielder on the bench against Kerry.

Cein Darcy is on the training panel I believe, Fiontan Curraoin is back training too by the sound of things but you'd question what he'd offer at this stage of the competition after nearly a full year out of the game after his leg break. I still think the axing of Ronan Steede from the panel in April was a mistake. Not saying he'd be an option to start but he'd be good to have to throw in after 50 minutes when fresh legs are needed, he has plenty of experience of playing at a high level and he's an excellent kick passer.

Never been a huge FOC fan, he's never kicked on from his u21 days although neither had Flynn until the last few months but as you say he's been out injured for so long its hard to make a case for him making an impact. I'm a huge fan of D'Arcy from what I've seen him of him so far but given he's still u20 and that he's in a position is very physically demanding he may not be ready to play championship just yet.
We have no sub midfielders though if we dont use either DArcy or FOC so at least one of them will have to be on the bench in Newbridge.
Possibly GOD or Daly (play there for M/M) could do an emergency shift there during the game if needs be.

I'd say Darcy will be on the bench in Newbridge, he'd have to be ahead of Fiontan match sharpness wise. Daly is also an option as you said galwayman, hopefully he gets another chance this weekend, he has so much potential but just didn't get going last weekend. Thought it was a strange decision to start him to be honest when he has very little football played between league and championship.
Daly has the class for the big day I think. It might take him a while to get up to speed  but he has something special.
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