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Jinxy

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Re: Concerned Gaels
« Reply #30 on: June 20, 2018, 10:55:11 AM »
True, but it is, and was, a worthy aspiration.

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« Reply #31 on: June 20, 2018, 11:01:36 AM »
Everybody is in favour of the GAA being apolitical, until it is their personal political stance being excluded.

Is the GAA apolitical though? History tells a different tale.

I thought it was not 'Party' Political.

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« Reply #32 on: June 20, 2018, 11:20:07 AM »
We left a lot of stuff behind as we moved on like bans and bishops throwing in the ball.
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« Reply #33 on: June 20, 2018, 11:26:29 AM »
Who actually decided this was an issue in the first place?
It's being going on for years, predominantly at games involving the Dubs or Ulster teams.
Or is this just natural progression from the fuss we saw over the Confederate flag being waved at Cork games.
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« Reply #34 on: June 20, 2018, 11:32:37 AM »
HQ need to stand their ground on this one. A very small but very loud minority support this politicising of the games. It remains incredibly distasteful to me that these people use the Palestinian cause as a prop to further their own selfish ends.

If anyone wants to pretend that all but a few of these people have any real interest in their plights and it isnít yet another attempt to try to wind up unionists in the north, cop on. Creating divisions rather than trying to bridge them, even in sport.

Just shut up. Please. Shut up and take time to read and understand the sentiments of the people not only in Ulster, but across Ireland  right now.

Choices:

a) allow every politically attuned member of our Association to use the GAA as a vehicle for promoting their politics, and therefore inevitably over time generate negative publicity and infighting.

Or

b) remain politically neutral and concentrate on football and hurling.

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Those who would choose to follow a) are narrow minded, myopic fools.

Fantastic post, totally agree.

it was until he let his bile and bias come out in the end.
I actually agree with him though.
the problem with allowing human rights/political displays at matches is not all are are clear cut as the Israeli situation,
it when the waters are a bit more mired and the  politically correct decision is not so easy to make  like in burma and Aung San Suu Kyi who made fools of many
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« Reply #35 on: June 20, 2018, 11:40:07 AM »
True, but it is, and was, a worthy aspiration.

I use to think that but no so sure any more, same way I use to laud the GAA for it's almost socialist outlook it's now moved beyond that, it can't take the corporate dollar and not bear the consequences that brings.

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« Reply #36 on: June 20, 2018, 11:41:34 AM »
If you flew a Palestine flag inside a premier league ground would you be asked to leave?
(Honest question, I dont know the answer).


While officially the GAA can take a non political stance , as a community and voluntary organisation, it will always be reflective of the views held by the majority of its members.
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« Reply #37 on: June 20, 2018, 11:42:35 AM »
Everybody is in favour of the GAA being apolitical, until it is their personal political stance being excluded.

Is the GAA apolitical though? History tells a different tale.

I thought it was not 'Party' Political.
Some times are more political than others.
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Re: Concerned Gaels
« Reply #38 on: June 20, 2018, 11:47:10 AM »
If you flew a Palestine flag inside a premier league ground would you be asked to leave?
(Honest question, I dont know the answer).


While officially the GAA can take a non political stance , as a community and voluntary organisation, it will always be reflective of the views held by the majority of its members.

one of the reasons the GAA survived and thrived in the early day was because at official level it was not political, The civil War would have killed it other wise .
now I know  recent ( but getting older) history in the north is different but as fasr as possible it has remained neutral at a top level,
individual clubs and members are a different thing
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« Reply #39 on: June 20, 2018, 12:07:57 PM »
Abhor israelís murder of Palestinians. But donít need to see a Palestine flag at a GAA match. I also abhor Palestineís treatment of Gay community, their zealous honor killings of women. Unfortunately theses are all religious fanatics and their flag represents  all that. I would not want to see a papal flag either. Weíve had our own religious fanatics and thereís enough poor children buried in unmarked graves that I donít want to see a papal flag at a Roscommon match (which I havenít) even though itís close to our county colours.  Bring your own county colours - thereís plenty of other outlets to protest for political and religious causes. And I also hate to see politicians canvassing outside the gates. Keep the frig away.

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« Reply #40 on: June 20, 2018, 12:09:56 PM »
Abhor israelís murder of Palestinians. But donít need to see a Palestine flag at a GAA match. I also abhor Palestineís treatment of Gay community, their zealous honor killings of women. Unfortunately theses are all religious fanatics and their flag represents  all that. I would not want to see a papal flag either. Weíve had our own religious fanatics and thereís enough poor children buried in unmarked graves that I donít want to see a papal flag at a Roscommon match (which I havenít) even though itís close to our county colours.  Bring your own county colours - thereís plenty of other outlets to protest for political and religious causes. And I also hate to see politicians canvassing outside the gates. Keep the frig away.

Very, very well said.

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« Reply #41 on: June 20, 2018, 12:18:22 PM »
Who actually decided this was an issue in the first place?
It's being going on for years, predominantly at games involving the Dubs or Ulster teams.
Or is this just natural progression from the fuss we saw over the Confederate flag being waved at Cork games.

The Confedrate flag is an abhorant thing to be waving publicly in any capacity Jinxy, donít let yourself down by trying to minimise it because you think some head-the-balls in Cork donít have the sense to know basic facts of history.

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Re: Concerned Gaels
« Reply #42 on: June 20, 2018, 12:20:47 PM »
Let myself down by trying to minimise it?
What, in the ever loving name of Christ, are you on about now?
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Re: Concerned Gaels
« Reply #43 on: June 20, 2018, 12:21:45 PM »
Let myself down by trying to minimise it?
What, in the ever loving name of Christ, are you on about now?

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Re: Concerned Gaels
« Reply #44 on: June 20, 2018, 12:24:09 PM »
If you flew a Palestine flag inside a premier league ground would you be asked to leave?
(Honest question, I dont know the answer).


While officially the GAA can take a non political stance , as a community and voluntary organisation, it will always be reflective of the views held by the majority of its members.

That very well may be. It doesn't mean we need to see the flags and banners related those political views at matches.
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