Poll

Are you in favour of repealing the 8th amendment?

Yes
47 (21.8%)
Yes but have no vote
73 (33.8%)
No
40 (18.5%)
No but have no vote
36 (16.7%)
Undecided
20 (9.3%)

Total Members Voted: 216

Voting closed: May 24, 2018, 03:36:55 PM

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Re: Eighth Amendment poll
« Reply #735 on: May 23, 2018, 10:49:23 PM »
Rhône Mahony is the Master of Holles St maternit hospital so she knows what she is talking about. Irish women already have abortions. The war is lost.

"Dr Mahony yesterday again called for a Yes vote in the referendum - saying abortion is already in Ireland with the use of pills bought over the internet to end pregnancies.

She also said doctors had to wait until a mother was dying before intervening to terminate a pregnancy to save her life, adding that this must change."


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« Reply #736 on: May 23, 2018, 10:50:55 PM »
Mullen is a disgrace. Young girl in tears telling the story of the time she went to Birmingham for an abortion.

"You deserve love and respect, regardless of what you have done"

What about the woman in the crowd who was abused by the amnesty canvassers.  Both vile acts.

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« Reply #737 on: May 23, 2018, 10:54:24 PM »
Mullen is a disgrace. Young girl in tears telling the story of the time she went to Birmingham for an abortion.

"You deserve love and respect, regardless of what you have done"

What about the woman in the crowd who was abused by the amnesty canvassers.  Both vile acts.

The one who said the GP told her to "pop over to England for an abortion" and said Yes canvassers told her a baby with a fatal foetal abnormality was "dead inside with all bit bits hanging out"?

Yeah, that didn't happen.
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« Reply #738 on: May 23, 2018, 11:13:29 PM »
Mullen is a disgrace. Young girl in tears telling the story of the time she went to Birmingham for an abortion.

"You deserve love and respect, regardless of what you have done"

He's a right gowl

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« Reply #739 on: May 23, 2018, 11:41:17 PM »
Mullen is a disgrace. Young girl in tears telling the story of the time she went to Birmingham for an abortion.

"You deserve love and respect, regardless of what you have done"
Does she not deserve love and respect so?
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« Reply #740 on: May 23, 2018, 11:42:49 PM »
Mullen is a disgrace. Young girl in tears telling the story of the time she went to Birmingham for an abortion.

"You deserve love and respect, regardless of what you have done"
Does she not deserve love and respect so?

Really stooping low with this post, even by your standards.

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« Reply #741 on: May 24, 2018, 12:01:25 AM »
Mullen is a disgrace. Young girl in tears telling the story of the time she went to Birmingham for an abortion.

"You deserve love and respect, regardless of what you have done"

Possibly trumped by his comments on mental health.

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« Reply #742 on: May 24, 2018, 07:14:42 AM »
Mullen is a disgrace. Young girl in tears telling the story of the time she went to Birmingham for an abortion.

"You deserve love and respect, regardless of what you have done"

What about the woman in the crowd who was abused by the amnesty canvassers.  Both vile acts.

The one who said the GP told her to "pop over to England for an abortion" and said Yes canvassers told her a baby with a fatal foetal abnormality was "dead inside with all bit bits hanging out"?

Yeah, that didn't happen.

O Gorman admitted it happened and apologised for it or was I dreaming that happened. Point is there are vile people on both sides if this and what's starting to really annoy me is the yes side constantly on about the vile people on the no side while refusing to acknowledge they have been as bad at times.

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« Reply #743 on: May 24, 2018, 08:00:34 AM »
Rhône Mahony is the Master of Holles St maternit hospital so she knows what she is talking about. Irish women already have abortions. The war is lost.

"Dr Mahony yesterday again called for a Yes vote in the referendum - saying abortion is already in Ireland with the use of pills bought over the internet to end pregnancies.

She also said doctors had to wait until a mother was dying before intervening to terminate a pregnancy to save her life, adding that this must change."


Mullen should be repatriated to the 1930s.
how do GRADUATES of the NUI vote for that dinosaur?

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« Reply #744 on: May 24, 2018, 08:56:49 AM »
Ultimately it's about trusting women. The Taliban don't want that.
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« Reply #745 on: May 24, 2018, 09:10:08 AM »
Mullen is a disgrace. Young girl in tears telling the story of the time she went to Birmingham for an abortion.

"You deserve love and respect, regardless of what you have done"

What about the woman in the crowd who was abused by the amnesty canvassers.  Both vile acts.

The one who said the GP told her to "pop over to England for an abortion" and said Yes canvassers told her a baby with a fatal foetal abnormality was "dead inside with all bit bits hanging out"?

Yeah, that didn't happen.

O Gorman admitted it happened and apologised for it or was I dreaming that happened. Point is there are vile people on both sides if this and what's starting to really annoy me is the yes side constantly on about the vile people on the no side while refusing to acknowledge they have been as bad at times.

He said something along the lines of "I'm very sorry that happened to you" and made reference to the training and instruction Yes side volunteers are supposed to undergo. He didn't specifically apologise for the individual things she claimed, which were clearly, at the very least, embellished.

He had no other option - he wasn't going to pull Mullen and lambast a women who had just shared a very personal and emotional story.
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« Reply #746 on: May 24, 2018, 09:33:40 AM »
Peadar Tóibín what's the story there? Interesting that a SF TD is coming out on the Yes side, yet this party is so comfortable with taking life.

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« Reply #747 on: May 24, 2018, 09:41:31 AM »
Peadar Tóibín what's the story there? Interesting that a SF TD is coming out on the Yes side, yet this party is so comfortable with taking life.

Most inane comment on this thread so far

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« Reply #748 on: May 24, 2018, 10:09:09 AM »
Mullen is a disgrace. Young girl in tears telling the story of the time she went to Birmingham for an abortion.

"You deserve love and respect, regardless of what you have done"

What about the woman in the crowd who was abused by the amnesty canvassers.  Both vile acts.

The one who said the GP told her to "pop over to England for an abortion" and said Yes canvassers told her a baby with a fatal foetal abnormality was "dead inside with all bit bits hanging out"?

Yeah, that didn't happen.

O Gorman admitted it happened and apologised for it or was I dreaming that happened. Point is there are vile people on both sides if this and what's starting to really annoy me is the yes side constantly on about the vile people on the no side while refusing to acknowledge they have been as bad at times.

He said something along the lines of "I'm very sorry that happened to you" and made reference to the training and instruction Yes side volunteers are supposed to undergo. He didn't specifically apologise for the individual things she claimed, which were clearly, at the very least, embellished.

He had no other option - he wasn't going to pull Mullen and lambast a women who had just shared a very personal and emotional story.

I don't think it was general like that. The way I heard it he was aware of the specific issue, said that his people know they should not be talking like that and he was sorry for it. Anyway, my main point is that there are some equally vile people on both sides of this thing. I see a lot of bullying on twitter from yes people of genuine normal people who are voting No and I think it is wrong. I see it the other way too but that is already being well publicized by the yes side however they are picking on one or two nutjobs on the No side and claiming that they are indicative of the whole No side.

For me, in a very unscientific way, I have heard many people - friends, neighbours etc, give there reason for a No vote and there are basically 3 things.

1- They feel that at 12 weeks the baby is a living being and they do not want to enable the killing of it
2- They feel that legalising it will increase the numbers of abortions
3- They are worried about Down Syndrome and diability tests withing 12 weeks being used and allowing people to abort babies due to what they might become.

I believe those are all legitimate concerns. The people that hold them are not intolerant monsters.

My personal opinion on each is currently...

1- I probably am uncomfortable about this as I dont know when something is considered a child or not. I know it is not conception and I know it is not after birth. I guess this is down to your personal opinion to decide.
2- Also concerned about this but I remind myself that everyone who wants an abortion can get on a 60 min flight anyway and have one so the point is probably not a point.
3- Worried about this but I consider it will only happen it extremely small amount of cases, at least I hope so.

So in summary I will vote yes but with concerns. I will not be demonising anyone who votes no.

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« Reply #749 on: May 24, 2018, 10:46:21 AM »
It is for those exact 3 reasons Itchy outlined above re no voters, why I'm voting no, with hesitation I might add. The sooner Saturday/Sunday comes the better.
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