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« Reply #30 on: April 09, 2018, 01:52:38 PM »
If New York win v Leitrim they will travel to play Roscommon in Hyde Park. The game is scheduled for a Saturday to allow the New York players a enough time to be back for work.

Good old Connacht where a provincial final place can be obtained by beating New York or Leitrim in your own pitch.

The Ros team of the 70s had  to beat both Galway and Mayo every year they won their 4 in a row, so does not always come easy. Anyway, the current Mayo and Galway team would beat any team in Ulster in championship football and Cavan would not beat any of the top 3 in Connacht, so be thankful you are in Ulster where at least you have a chance of some silverware. And would love to see ye do it.

My point was it never comes as easy in Ulster as beating a team of the calibre of Leitrim gets you into a final. I know sometimes it comes hard in Connacht for sure but it just outlines t he unfairness of the championship. Cavan will need to be at their peak to play preliminary round in Ulster. Roscommon could be in 2nd gear and beat Leitrim/New York and then can sit and watch Mayo/Galway kick lumps out of eachother. Used to be like that in Munster too but obviously standard of Clare and Tipp is much better these days.

going back to 1992 it makes the achievement of Leitrim all the greater, beating Roscommon, mayo and Galway

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« Reply #31 on: April 09, 2018, 02:28:03 PM »
If New York win v Leitrim they will travel to play Roscommon in Hyde Park. The game is scheduled for a Saturday to allow the New York players a enough time to be back for work.

Good old Connacht where a provincial final place can be obtained by beating New York or Leitrim in your own pitch.

The Ros team of the 70s had  to beat both Galway and Mayo every year they won their 4 in a row, so does not always come easy. Anyway, the current Mayo and Galway team would beat any team in Ulster in championship football and Cavan would not beat any of the top 3 in Connacht, so be thankful you are in Ulster where at least you have a chance of some silverware. And would love to see ye do it.

My point was it never comes as easy in Ulster as beating a team of the calibre of Leitrim gets you into a final. I know sometimes it comes hard in Connacht for sure but it just outlines t he unfairness of the championship. Cavan will need to be at their peak to play preliminary round in Ulster. Roscommon could be in 2nd gear and beat Leitrim/New York and then can sit and watch Mayo/Galway kick lumps out of eachother. Used to be like that in Munster too but obviously standard of Clare and Tipp is much better these days.

going back to 1992 it makes the achievement of Leitrim all the greater, beating Roscommon, mayo and Galway

You'll never see that again, there may not even be GAA teams fielded at all in Leitrim in a few years unless Croke Park HQ gets their finger out and stop neglecting them. While some seem to want New York upset the odds, I think it would finally show the neglect shown to Leitrim and they will think whats the point and lose another ton of players. New York are not a serious outfit given they don't fully take part, and theres not much grassroots about paying lads to come over and the likes of Jamie Clarke in the forward line.

Be better off giving their place to another team from British GAA like Lancashire or Warwickshire in hurling who compete in the League every week.

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« Reply #32 on: April 09, 2018, 06:30:37 PM »
Why aren't ye agitating to either abolish the Ulster Championship or else disconnect the Provincials from the All Irelands???
Or would that leave ye with no spuds on th'oul showlders ?  ;)

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« Reply #33 on: April 10, 2018, 07:04:03 PM »
Wrong Unlaoised. Longford will beat Mayo in Pearse Park. It's an unlucky ground for Mayo teams down the years.
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« Reply #34 on: April 11, 2018, 09:01:19 AM »
Well the first round losers have plenty of time to lick their wounds before the first qualifier match and then it's make or break.

Dates for qualifier rounds:

9th june (1st round)

23rd June (2nd round)

30 June  (3rd round)

7th July (4th round)

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« Reply #35 on: April 16, 2018, 06:15:22 AM »
9th June
The counties who will be in Round 1 of the football qualifiers are: Galway or Mayo; Sligo or London; Tyrone or Monaghan; Down or Antrim; Armagh or Fermanagh; Meath or Longford; Limerick or Clare; Tipperary or Waterford; two from Donegal, Cavan, Derry; two from Wexford, Laois, Westmeath; two from Offaly, Wicklow, Dublin; two from Louth, Carlow, Kildare.

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« Reply #36 on: April 16, 2018, 10:46:38 AM »
9th June
The counties who will be in Round 1 of the football qualifiers are: Galway or Mayo; Sligo or London; Tyrone or Monaghan; Down or Antrim; Armagh or Fermanagh; Meath or Longford; Limerick or Clare; Tipperary or Waterford; two from Donegal, Cavan, Derry; two from Wexford, Laois, Westmeath; two from Offaly, Wicklow, Dublin; two from Louth, Carlow, Kildare.

I think we'd have a fairly good guess as to which two from these 3 will be in it!

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Re: Football qualifier route 2018
« Reply #37 on: April 17, 2018, 10:57:51 AM »
If New York win v Leitrim they will travel to play Roscommon in Hyde Park. The game is scheduled for a Saturday to allow the New York players a enough time to be back for work.

Good old Connacht where a provincial final place can be obtained by beating New York or Leitrim in your own pitch.
I see McGleenan commenting on Ulster's new 2 year exemption from the Preliminary Round.
Then turns it into a call to revamp the entire Championship  bitching about Ros having one game to reach a Final and ye lot having to play 3.
As usual from the bitchers he offers no alternative solution.
2018- 2 Cupeens won, 2 to go.

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« Reply #38 on: April 17, 2018, 11:40:51 AM »
If New York win v Leitrim they will travel to play Roscommon in Hyde Park. The game is scheduled for a Saturday to allow the New York players a enough time to be back for work.

Good old Connacht where a provincial final place can be obtained by beating New York or Leitrim in your own pitch.
I see McGleenan commenting on Ulster's new 2 year exemption from the Preliminary Round.
Then turns it into a call to revamp the entire Championship  bitching about Ros having one game to reach a Final and ye lot having to play 3.
As usual from the bitchers he offers no alternative solution.

you know where he is from, so did you expect anything but the 2 large chips on shoulders

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« Reply #39 on: April 18, 2018, 12:16:03 PM »
It doesn't look like their will much coverage of the qualifiers on TV this summer, it was mentioned on Parkinson's podcast the other day that they can't show any more matches than they did last year; I'd imagine they'll show the majority of the super 8's games so somethings got to give elsewhere and thats not taking into account the extra games in the Leinster & Munster Hurling championship.

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« Reply #40 on: April 18, 2018, 12:22:41 PM »
2 Finals
4 Semi Finals
14 Qtr Finals
6 Provincial Finals

19 other games which will likely include 15 Provincials at least.
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« Reply #41 on: April 18, 2018, 11:02:35 PM »
Will the Ulster championship matches be covered on BBCNI? Will these (if they are) impact on the overall number does anybody know?
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« Reply #42 on: April 19, 2018, 12:48:36 AM »
If New York win v Leitrim they will travel to play Roscommon in Hyde Park. The game is scheduled for a Saturday to allow the New York players a enough time to be back for work.

Good old Connacht where a provincial final place can be obtained by beating New York or Leitrim in your own pitch.
I see McGleenan commenting on Ulster's new 2 year exemption from the Preliminary Round.
Then turns it into a call to revamp the entire Championship  bitching about Ros having one game to reach a Final and ye lot having to play 3.
As usual from the bitchers he offers no alternative solution.

you know where he is from, so did you expect anything but the 2 large chips on shoulders

He wasn’t so quick to action when his best player was hobbling around the field and 30,000 people knew he was done. If Cavan lose by a score against Donegal it will because of his own failings as a manager as McVeety would probably have been the best player on the field barring Paddy McBrearty. I think he’s a bluffer to be totally frank.

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Re: Football qualifier route 2018
« Reply #43 on: April 21, 2018, 07:42:12 AM »
Piece from Fridays Irish Times

Qualifier guarantee for lucky trio of

Cork, Kerry, and Roscommon are the only teams guaranteed to avoid the first round of this year’s All-Ireland senior football championship qualifiers.


The seeded nature of the Munster SFC, which rewards the previous year’s finalists with byes to the semi-finals, and Roscommon’s fortune in being drawn in a Connacht semi-final for the second year in a row, means the trio will begin the All-Ireland competition at the earliest on Saturday, June 23, in the second qualifier round, which takes place on the same day as the Munster SFC final.

The disparity of the provincial championships feeding into the All-Ireland SFC is highlighted by the advantageous circumstances provided to Cork and Kerry, compared to Ulster SFC preliminary round teams, Cavan and Donegal, who would have to win one of two games to reach the second round of the backdoor.

To make the Super 8, either team will have to win four consecutive games in their provincial championship (ie, win the Anglo-Celt Cup), through the qualifier system, or win four between the Ulster SFC and the qualifiers. In contrast, if Cork, Kerry, and Roscommon win their respective semi-finals, they need only claim another victory from their following two outings to make the All-Ireland quarter-final stages.

After four seasons of a split backdoor system, this year sees a return to the open qualifier draw, meaning any of the 16 teams that failed to reach their provincial semi-finals — the four quarter-finalists in Leinster, Connacht, and Ulster, the three in Connacht, and the Ulster preliminary round losers — can be pitted against one another.

Most, if not all, of the qualifiers are expected to take place on Saturdays, with the master fixtures calendar scheduling them for June 9, 23, 30, and with the final knockout round taking place on July 7 or 8.

That sequencing means a team hoping to reach a Super 8 All-Ireland quarter-final group from the second-round stage must win three games in as many weekends, before their Super 8 outings on July 14/15 and July 21/22,
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« Reply #44 on: May 14, 2018, 12:24:02 PM »
Everyone up to the beaten provincial semi finalists will be in the Qualifiers Round 1, so there'll be 16 in total in the next couple of weeks.

Offaly,
London,
Louth,
Mayo,
Cavan,
Wexford,
Westmeath/Laois,
Kildare/Carlow,
Dublin/Wicklow,
Meath/Longford,
Waterford/Tipperary,
Clare/Limerick,
Fermanagh/Armagh,
Tyrone/Monaghan,
Down/Antrim,
Derry/Donegal.


A lot of slots open yet!