Author Topic: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.  (Read 668346 times)

general_lee

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2080
    • View Profile
Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« Reply #7680 on: February 20, 2021, 11:49:19 AM »
General Lee.........Southern slave states....No similarities though.......

For me it says everything........
Dukes of hazzard fan but keep trying

grounded

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 538
    • View Profile
Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« Reply #7681 on: February 20, 2021, 12:46:27 PM »
Murder is murder. If a civilian dies outside of that then there is never justification.

It doesn’t matter if it happened 20 years ago or 200 years ago. Anyone who feels that time will make it ok is a fool

Yep, but to quote an old cliché ' history is written by the Victors '

 Look at the fire bombing of Dresden by the allies. Plenty of apologists for that including one or two on this forum i'd guess.
         

RedHand88

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2545
    • View Profile
Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« Reply #7682 on: February 20, 2021, 12:47:19 PM »
Murder is murder. If a civilian dies outside of that then there is never justification.

It doesn’t matter if it happened 20 years ago or 200 years ago. Anyone who feels that time will make it ok is a fool

It's not just Ireland where you'll find this curiosity. Go to Mongolia and you'll find Genghas khans head on money, bottles of alcohol etc, yet the man wiped out 10% of the entire human race.

Give GK a break, at least he was carbon neutral, has upwards of 20m descendents running amok in the world today

1 in every 200 men or something carry his Y chromosome, up to 1 in 10 in China.
He knew it wasn't for stirring tae with...

Rossfan

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 17548
  • Ballaghaderreen CO ROSCOMMON
    • View Profile
    • Roscommon County Board official website
Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« Reply #7683 on: February 20, 2021, 01:39:16 PM »
Murder is murder. If a civilian dies outside of that then there is never justification.

It doesn’t matter if it happened 20 years ago or 200 years ago. Anyone who feels that time will make it ok is a fool

Yep, but to quote an old cliché ' history is written by the Victors '

 Look at the fire bombing of Dresden by the allies. Plenty of apologists for that including one or two on this forum i'd guess.
         
You could say the same about Le Mon!
Division 2 Champions and Connacht Champions (Minor)

Angelo

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5372
    • View Profile
Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« Reply #7684 on: February 20, 2021, 01:41:21 PM »
Murder is murder. If a civilian dies outside of that then there is never justification.

It doesn’t matter if it happened 20 years ago or 200 years ago. Anyone who feels that time will make it ok is a fool

Yep, but to quote an old cliché ' history is written by the Victors '

 Look at the fire bombing of Dresden by the allies. Plenty of apologists for that including one or two on this forum i'd guess.
         
You could say the same about Le Mon!

Or sectarian purge by the Old IRA in Dunmanway.
GAA FUNDING CHEATS CHEAT US ALL

grounded

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 538
    • View Profile
Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« Reply #7685 on: February 20, 2021, 06:53:06 PM »
Murder is murder. If a civilian dies outside of that then there is never justification.

It doesn’t matter if it happened 20 years ago or 200 years ago. Anyone who feels that time will make it ok is a fool

Yep, but to quote an old cliché ' history is written by the Victors '

 Look at the fire bombing of Dresden by the allies. Plenty of apologists for that including one or two on this forum i'd guess.
         
You could say the same about Le Mon!

Yep, you're right. That's my point. Milltown has it 100% right. All murder of civilians is morally wrong and should be condemned.
         Unfortunately thats not the way it works. Morally unforgiveable acts like Dresden were justified ' for the greater good ' and to limit the loss of allied troops. Ditto Horishima and Nagasaki.
         The allies won. They got to say what was morally justified. They got to call out the Nazis for the cruel bast@rds they were and rightly so.
       If the axis had of won the reverse would be true. The genocide they perpetrated against the Jewish, gypsy, Slavic and other peoples would have brushed under the carpet
       Whats the lesson? Might is right and don't be on the loosing side?

Main Street

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 12898
    • View Profile
Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« Reply #7686 on: February 20, 2021, 09:13:26 PM »
Murder is murder. If a civilian dies outside of that then there is never justification.

It doesn’t matter if it happened 20 years ago or 200 years ago. Anyone who feels that time will make it ok is a fool

Yep, but to quote an old cliché ' history is written by the Victors '

 Look at the fire bombing of Dresden by the allies. Plenty of apologists for that including one or two on this forum i'd guess.
         
You could say the same about Le Mon!

Yep, you're right. That's my point. Milltown has it 100% right. All murder of civilians is morally wrong and should be condemned.
         Unfortunately thats not the way it works. Morally unforgiveable acts like Dresden were justified ' for the greater good ' and to limit the loss of allied troops. Ditto Horishima and Nagasaki.
         The allies won. They got to say what was morally justified. They got to call out the Nazis for the cruel bast@rds they were and rightly so.
       If the axis had of won the reverse would be true. The genocide they perpetrated against the Jewish, gypsy, Slavic and other peoples would have brushed under the carpet
       Whats the lesson? Might is right and don't be on the loosing side?

You all should brush up on your  understanding of WW2 history before offering glib references. But perhaps  that just exemplifies the  paucity of informed debate which burdens this thread  ;D

The London  blitz bombing  was a failed tactic in WW2 to begin with and in the end  managed to achieve the opposite of what was intended . The carpet bombing of German cities did not work for the Allies cause either, it was an expression of the madness of Bomber Harris.  It had no effect on the outcome of WW2.  It was a total waste of human and material resources. There was no justification for Dresden and  there was no military positive benefit either.
WW2 was won in all the other theatres , nothing was achieved militarily  by carpet bombing of civilian areas.

grounded

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 538
    • View Profile
Re: Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.
« Reply #7687 on: February 20, 2021, 10:41:35 PM »
Murder is murder. If a civilian dies outside of that then there is never justification.

It doesn’t matter if it happened 20 years ago or 200 years ago. Anyone who feels that time will make it ok is a fool

Yep, but to quote an old cliché ' history is written by the Victors '

 Look at the fire bombing of Dresden by the allies. Plenty of apologists for that including one or two on this forum i'd guess.
         
You could say the same about Le Mon!

Yep, you're right. That's my point. Milltown has it 100% right. All murder of civilians is morally wrong and should be condemned.
         Unfortunately thats not the way it works. Morally unforgiveable acts like Dresden were justified ' for the greater good ' and to limit the loss of allied troops. Ditto Horishima and Nagasaki.
         The allies won. They got to say what was morally justified. They got to call out the Nazis for the cruel bast@rds they were and rightly so.
       If the axis had of won the reverse would be true. The genocide they perpetrated against the Jewish, gypsy, Slavic and other peoples would have brushed under the carpet
       Whats the lesson? Might is right and don't be on the loosing side?

You all should brush up on your  understanding of WW2 history before offering glib references. But perhaps  that just exemplifies the  paucity of informed debate which burdens this thread  ;D

The London  blitz bombing  was a failed tactic in WW2 to begin with and in the end  managed to achieve the opposite of what was intended . The carpet bombing of German cities did not work for the Allies cause either, it was an expression of the madness of Bomber Harris.  It had no effect on the outcome of WW2.  It was a total waste of human and material resources. There was no justification for Dresden and  there was no military positive benefit either.
WW2 was won in all the other theatres , nothing was achieved militarily  by carpet bombing of civilian areas.

I think you've missed the point.
      Perhaps you could help me brush up on my knowledge of ww2 by pointing out were any of the top brass in either of the British or Us Armed forces/government ever condemned the ' madness of bomber Harris ' as you put it?