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Irish Business Thread
« on: January 26, 2018, 09:25:50 AM »
Not sure if there is something  on this already but thought a thread on Irish Business might get some decent interest on here. Couple of big stories in Northern Ireland at the minute with major job implications.

First one is the Bombardier dispute with the US over tariffs. The UK governments response was pathetic and does give an idea of just how little they care about this particular corner of the world DUP deal or not!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-42807017

AES Kilroot announced this morning that they are going to have to close afetr failing to win a generating contract with up to 270 jobs on the line. Unions etc questioning how secure NI's electricity supply is now  for the next few years without Kilroot as they reckon it is too heavily dependent on wind. Major new interconnector line between Tyrone and Meath got planning approval earlier in the week but it is not going to be ready for about 3-4 years.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-42826175
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Re: Irish Business Thread
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2018, 10:24:10 AM »
Who won the contract?
Whats the problem with being too heavily dependent on wind for power?

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« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2018, 10:36:06 AM »
Who won the contract?
Whats the problem with being too heavily dependent on wind for power?

Um, the wind doesn't blow all the time when you need the power? That's why you need a degree of backup thermal generation.

Most people who bid into the auction got contracts which would be the likes of Oil and Gas fired power stations for the vast majority of the requirement. Its the likes of ESB and Viridian mainly.  Small generators attached to hospitals, big businesses etc can also bid in. The major powerstations in NI are  Coolkeeragh and Ballylumford in NI and the likes of Huntstown and ESB stations in ROI as it is an all ireland auction.

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« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2018, 11:14:19 AM »
Who won the contract?
Whats the problem with being too heavily dependent on wind for power?

Um, the wind doesn't blow all the time when you need the power? That's why you need a degree of backup thermal generation.

Most people who bid into the auction got contracts which would be the likes of Oil and Gas fired power stations for the vast majority of the requirement. Its the likes of ESB and Viridian mainly.  Small generators attached to hospitals, big businesses etc can also bid in. The major powerstations in NI are  Coolkeeragh and Ballylumford in NI and the likes of Huntstown and ESB stations in ROI as it is an all ireland auction.

Surely in next few years, Technology will advance to where the wind power generated can be stored in batteries and then used when the wind isn't strong - then recharge the batteries when the wind is blowing. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-42190358
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« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2018, 11:19:59 AM »
Who won the contract?
Whats the problem with being too heavily dependent on wind for power?

Um, the wind doesn't blow all the time when you need the power? That's why you need a degree of backup thermal generation.

Most people who bid into the auction got contracts which would be the likes of Oil and Gas fired power stations for the vast majority of the requirement. Its the likes of ESB and Viridian mainly.  Small generators attached to hospitals, big businesses etc can also bid in. The major powerstations in NI are  Coolkeeragh and Ballylumford in NI and the likes of Huntstown and ESB stations in ROI as it is an all ireland auction.

Surely in next few years, Technology will advance to where the wind power generated can be stored in batteries and then used when the wind isn't strong - then recharge the batteries when the wind is blowing. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-42190358

Battery storage will get much more important but it is still years away in Ireland and it will only act as a backup to thermal. Its still unlikely to get rid of the gas fired plants due to the limited capacity and charge/discharge times. AES has a massive battery storage array at Kilroot but its only 10 MW. I think the Powerstation puts out over 500 MW an hour which is about a fifth of NI demand at maximum load.
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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2018, 07:16:48 PM »
Who won the contract?
Whats the problem with being too heavily dependent on wind for power?

Um, the wind doesn't blow all the time when you need the power? That's why you need a degree of backup thermal generation.

Most people who bid into the auction got contracts which would be the likes of Oil and Gas fired power stations for the vast majority of the requirement. Its the likes of ESB and Viridian mainly.  Small generators attached to hospitals, big businesses etc can also bid in. The major powerstations in NI are  Coolkeeragh and Ballylumford in NI and the likes of Huntstown and ESB stations in ROI as it is an all ireland auction.

Surely in next few years, Technology will advance to where the wind power generated can be stored in batteries and then used when the wind isn't strong - then recharge the batteries when the wind is blowing. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-42190358

I remember reading somewhere (I think it's in Wales) about where they pump water uphill into a reservoir at night in the off-peak time and use hydro-electric power during the day when the water flows back down.

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« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2018, 08:12:58 PM »
Good news for Bombardier.

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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2018, 08:38:42 PM »
Who won the contract?
Whats the problem with being too heavily dependent on wind for power?

Um, the wind doesn't blow all the time when you need the power? That's why you need a degree of backup thermal generation.

Most people who bid into the auction got contracts which would be the likes of Oil and Gas fired power stations for the vast majority of the requirement. Its the likes of ESB and Viridian mainly.  Small generators attached to hospitals, big businesses etc can also bid in. The major powerstations in NI are  Coolkeeragh and Ballylumford in NI and the likes of Huntstown and ESB stations in ROI as it is an all ireland auction.

Surely in next few years, Technology will advance to where the wind power generated can be stored in batteries and then used when the wind isn't strong - then recharge the batteries when the wind is blowing. 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-42190358

I remember reading somewhere (I think it's in Wales) about where they pump water uphill into a reservoir at night in the off-peak time and use hydro-electric power during the day when the water flows back down.

Like Turlough Hill or the 1970s scheme for Camlough.
There was a plan to do this with seawater in the West
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirit_of_Ireland
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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2018, 10:30:16 AM »
Good news for Bombardier.

I wonder if they are now regretting selling the C Series programme to Airbus for $1! Good news for the Belfast plant, I hope most of the wings are still manufactured there and not transferred to Airbus' plant in Mobile.

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« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2018, 06:45:55 PM »
More bad news today on the NI job front. Williams industrial into administration with 150 jobs gone, Schlumberger closure confirmed with 200 gone and NIE announce 90 jobs at risk.


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« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2018, 12:22:20 PM »


Good news for the NOrthwest ad O'Neills

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/business/northern-ireland/oneills-to-create-175-jobs-with-expansion-of-its-strabane-manufacturing-headquarters-36604634.html

Sportswear giant O'Neills is creating 175 jobs as part of a major expansion at its Co Tyrone base.
Planning approval granted by Derry City and Strabane District Council makes way for a new storage and distribution facility and factory shop complex at Dublin Road in Strabane to aid with the company's developing online business.O'Neills, which is best known for its GAA kit, has established sales offices in Dublin, London and Belfast, while international  sales offices have been opened in the US, France and Australia. The new positions, to be created over a three-year period, are expected to generate an additional £26.7m in sales, and will also help safeguard the present workforce.

Now celebrating its centenary year, O'Neills Sports already employs nearly 600 people in Strabane, in addition to 100 who work at its Dublin site.

While the company started out manufacturing solely GAA jerseys, it has seen considerable development, particularly over the past 40 years, and is now the largest sportswear manufacturing company in Ireland.


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« Reply #13 on: February 15, 2018, 02:38:04 PM »


Good news for the NOrthwest ad O'Neills

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/business/northern-ireland/oneills-to-create-175-jobs-with-expansion-of-its-strabane-manufacturing-headquarters-36604634.html

Sportswear giant O'Neills is creating 175 jobs as part of a major expansion at its Co Tyrone base.
Planning approval granted by Derry City and Strabane District Council makes way for a new storage and distribution facility and factory shop complex at Dublin Road in Strabane to aid with the company's developing online business.O'Neills, which is best known for its GAA kit, has established sales offices in Dublin, London and Belfast, while international  sales offices have been opened in the US, France and Australia. The new positions, to be created over a three-year period, are expected to generate an additional £26.7m in sales, and will also help safeguard the present workforce.

Now celebrating its centenary year, O'Neills Sports already employs nearly 600 people in Strabane, in addition to 100 who work at its Dublin site.

While the company started out manufacturing solely GAA jerseys, it has seen considerable development, particularly over the past 40 years, and is now the largest sportswear manufacturing company in Ireland.

That is supernews
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« Reply #14 on: February 15, 2018, 04:09:06 PM »


Good news for the NOrthwest ad O'Neills

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/business/northern-ireland/oneills-to-create-175-jobs-with-expansion-of-its-strabane-manufacturing-headquarters-36604634.html

Sportswear giant O'Neills is creating 175 jobs as part of a major expansion at its Co Tyrone base.
Planning approval granted by Derry City and Strabane District Council makes way for a new storage and distribution facility and factory shop complex at Dublin Road in Strabane to aid with the company's developing online business.O'Neills, which is best known for its GAA kit, has established sales offices in Dublin, London and Belfast, while international  sales offices have been opened in the US, France and Australia. The new positions, to be created over a three-year period, are expected to generate an additional £26.7m in sales, and will also help safeguard the present workforce.

Now celebrating its centenary year, O'Neills Sports already employs nearly 600 people in Strabane, in addition to 100 who work at its Dublin site.

While the company started out manufacturing solely GAA jerseys, it has seen considerable development, particularly over the past 40 years, and is now the largest sportswear manufacturing company in Ireland.

That is supernews

Itís capitalism, though.