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Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
« Reply #765 on: March 13, 2018, 12:53:18 PM »
Poorest performance of the league so far by Galway yesterday in the first half, weren't at the pitch of the game at all really I thought, some of the poor shot selections (e.g. Kyne) and mistakes (e.g. Brannigan double hop when in a good position) in the first 35 were not what they had displayed in the first four games where good economy in front of the posts was generally the norm, a lot of bad wides yesterday.
Monaghan were looking much the more likely winners heading into the tail end of the first half. The sending off completely changed the terms of engagement for the match and - to be fair - Galway exploited the man advantage very successfully in the second half.

What to do with Shane Walsh? Will he ever learn to just do the simple things well? You don't have to showcase your talent at all time, the easy pass or shot that 90% of players can execute is sometimes all that's necessary in a situation. It's getting to the point where it should have clicked for him at this stage, he's either going to be a 4/10 or a 9/10 depending on the day, a 7/10 every day might be more preferable. While harsh it was a bit of a mé feiner performance from him yesterday, it's just more frustrating when someone has the ability and doesn't execute I guess.
Overall again securing primary possession is a continuing problem, I don't know if the solution will be found this year by the looks of it, it's the one real killer looking to the summer, we'd give any team outside of the top 4 a game if this problem was fixed or at least mitigated to an extent that is wasn't the glaring problem.
It's good to have complaints while winning but I'm sure that it's the same things that the management and players are focussed on themselves. If you'd offered this set of results at the start of the league to any Galway football fan we'd have took the hand off you. Contrast Galway with our fellow 2017 Division 2 finalists, it might only be the league but there is nothing to be said for losing every week.
Kyne and Kerins played very well defensively yesterday, Heaney was also excellent I thought, what a superb score from the mark and long sideline run in the first half, if it was a Kerryman or Dub that scored it their media heads would be fawning over it. Comer was effective when in possession, Brannigan was back to decent form in the second half as well.

I'll be heading to Salthill with trepidation for next week but it's better that the weak links are fully exposed ahead of May 13th. People are talking about psychological damage from taking a pasting from Dublin but they battered Kerry by 12 (it could have been 18/20) yesterday and they can do it to any team.
I could be very wrong but I don't think there's any better prep for the team ahead of May 13th than two matches against the Dubs, trying to match them is the standard Mayo have lifted themselves to every year since 2012, this is where Galway are looking to get to.

Speaking of Dublin, I was in CP for the Dublin-Kerry match yesterday and the bottom line is that unless Mayo have a massive performance in a win or go home game next August/September against the Dubs, I can't see them being caught by anyone, they toyed with Kerry yesterday and taking into account the list of players that didn't tog out for them, it's hard to believe how far out in front of everyone they are in terms of quality throughout a squad.
The Galway lads will surely know what the gold standard to aspire to is after the league final on the 1st April, hopefully Galway Aprils Fools day related headlines on the match reports won't be what we're just looking at on the 2nd!

Spot on as usual, would have too see some stats but thought their was their was a slight improvement on kickouts in the first half or more likely it was my imagination. There's no point in over analysing the 2nd half kickouts because of the extra man. The 2nd half did show that when Galway applied more pressure to Monaghans kickouts they did well on them and got plenty of scores as a direct result of winning them. I'm expecting Galway to really struggle for possession on Sunday which should lead to a comfortable Dublin win, I'm hoping this will lead to a change in strategy going forward with the kickouts.

It appears its only Galway who will suffer from a hammering by the Dubs, they've dished out hidings to practically everyone the last few years but its only it appears its only Galway who will suffer a huge psychological blow because of it. If Galway get beat by Mayo on the May the 13th it won't be down to two hammerings at the hands of the Dubs.

This is a young Galway panel who hopefully in a couple of years with 3 or 4 more additions may have a chance of challenging for the big prize.

I would not be so sure! Heavy defeats can be soul destroying especially for defenders!
Has anyone the view that Galway might go on and win this league title? Kerry this time last year fell into the final their form wasnt great while Galway have strolled into the final with a few games to spare. I suppose it all depends what is Galways plan B if and when Dublin break down their defensive system.

I think we might give them a decent game next weekend in Salthill. It's meant to be baltic and if the wind is whipping in off the Atlantic it won't be pleasant. I'd be a bit worried about the league final though, that it could get ugly.

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Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
« Reply #766 on: March 13, 2018, 05:24:11 PM »
There you have it. Money makes no difference, it's all natural god given talent and hard work.

Every other county needs to work harder.



It seems that Kildare have most work to do.

If I were you I’d forget about Dublin and concern myself with Kildare’s abysmal performances against all the Division 1 teams.
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Re: 2018 NFL Division 1
« Reply #767 on: March 13, 2018, 07:13:40 PM »
We will take the dubs this year Leinster final be ready

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« Reply #768 on: March 13, 2018, 07:33:03 PM »
There you have it. Money makes no difference, it's all natural god given talent and hard work.

Every other county needs to work harder.



It seems that Kildare have most work to do.

If I were you I’d forget about Dublin and concern myself with Kildare’s abysmal performances against all the Division 1 teams.
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« Reply #769 on: March 14, 2018, 08:06:19 AM »
Poorest performance of the league so far by Galway yesterday in the first half, weren't at the pitch of the game at all really I thought, some of the poor shot selections (e.g. Kyne) and mistakes (e.g. Brannigan double hop when in a good position) in the first 35 were not what they had displayed in the first four games where good economy in front of the posts was generally the norm, a lot of bad wides yesterday.
Monaghan were looking much the more likely winners heading into the tail end of the first half. The sending off completely changed the terms of engagement for the match and - to be fair - Galway exploited the man advantage very successfully in the second half.

What to do with Shane Walsh? Will he ever learn to just do the simple things well? You don't have to showcase your talent at all time, the easy pass or shot that 90% of players can execute is sometimes all that's necessary in a situation. It's getting to the point where it should have clicked for him at this stage, he's either going to be a 4/10 or a 9/10 depending on the day, a 7/10 every day might be more preferable. While harsh it was a bit of a mé feiner performance from him yesterday, it's just more frustrating when someone has the ability and doesn't execute I guess.
Overall again securing primary possession is a continuing problem, I don't know if the solution will be found this year by the looks of it, it's the one real killer looking to the summer, we'd give any team outside of the top 4 a game if this problem was fixed or at least mitigated to an extent that is wasn't the glaring problem.
It's good to have complaints while winning but I'm sure that it's the same things that the management and players are focussed on themselves. If you'd offered this set of results at the start of the league to any Galway football fan we'd have took the hand off you. Contrast Galway with our fellow 2017 Division 2 finalists, it might only be the league but there is nothing to be said for losing every week.
Kyne and Kerins played very well defensively yesterday, Heaney was also excellent I thought, what a superb score from the mark and long sideline run in the first half, if it was a Kerryman or Dub that scored it their media heads would be fawning over it. Comer was effective when in possession, Brannigan was back to decent form in the second half as well.

I'll be heading to Salthill with trepidation for next week but it's better that the weak links are fully exposed ahead of May 13th. People are talking about psychological damage from taking a pasting from Dublin but they battered Kerry by 12 (it could have been 18/20) yesterday and they can do it to any team.
I could be very wrong but I don't think there's any better prep for the team ahead of May 13th than two matches against the Dubs, trying to match them is the standard Mayo have lifted themselves to every year since 2012, this is where Galway are looking to get to.

Speaking of Dublin, I was in CP for the Dublin-Kerry match yesterday and the bottom line is that unless Mayo have a massive performance in a win or go home game next August/September against the Dubs, I can't see them being caught by anyone, they toyed with Kerry yesterday and taking into account the list of players that didn't tog out for them, it's hard to believe how far out in front of everyone they are in terms of quality throughout a squad.
The Galway lads will surely know what the gold standard to aspire to is after the league final on the 1st April, hopefully Galway Aprils Fools day related headlines on the match reports won't be what we're just looking at on the 2nd!

Spot on as usual, would have too see some stats but thought their was their was a slight improvement on kickouts in the first half or more likely it was my imagination. There's no point in over analysing the 2nd half kickouts because of the extra man. The 2nd half did show that when Galway applied more pressure to Monaghans kickouts they did well on them and got plenty of scores as a direct result of winning them. I'm expecting Galway to really struggle for possession on Sunday which should lead to a comfortable Dublin win, I'm hoping this will lead to a change in strategy going forward with the kickouts.

It appears its only Galway who will suffer from a hammering by the Dubs, they've dished out hidings to practically everyone the last few years but its only it appears its only Galway who will suffer a huge psychological blow because of it. If Galway get beat by Mayo on the May the 13th it won't be down to two hammerings at the hands of the Dubs.

This is a young Galway panel who hopefully in a couple of years with 3 or 4 more additions may have a chance of challenging for the big prize.

I would not be so sure! Heavy defeats can be soul destroying especially for defenders!
Has anyone the view that Galway might go on and win this league title? Kerry this time last year fell into the final their form wasnt great while Galway have strolled into the final with a few games to spare. I suppose it all depends what is Galways plan B if and when Dublin break down their defensive system.

I think we might give them a decent game next weekend in Salthill. It's meant to be baltic and if the wind is whipping in off the Atlantic it won't be pleasant. I'd be a bit worried about the league final though, that it could get ugly.

Given the evidence of the first half last weekend, monaghan are comfortably a better side than Galway at present - despite the latter’s excellent form thus far in the league.

Looking at the changes Monaghan made for that game, they may not be disappointed to miss out on a league final.

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« Reply #770 on: March 14, 2018, 08:12:59 AM »
I think Dinny is Spewan McKenna hiding out in Brazil.

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« Reply #771 on: March 14, 2018, 10:20:12 AM »
Poorest performance of the league so far by Galway yesterday in the first half, weren't at the pitch of the game at all really I thought, some of the poor shot selections (e.g. Kyne) and mistakes (e.g. Brannigan double hop when in a good position) in the first 35 were not what they had displayed in the first four games where good economy in front of the posts was generally the norm, a lot of bad wides yesterday.
Monaghan were looking much the more likely winners heading into the tail end of the first half. The sending off completely changed the terms of engagement for the match and - to be fair - Galway exploited the man advantage very successfully in the second half.

What to do with Shane Walsh? Will he ever learn to just do the simple things well? You don't have to showcase your talent at all time, the easy pass or shot that 90% of players can execute is sometimes all that's necessary in a situation. It's getting to the point where it should have clicked for him at this stage, he's either going to be a 4/10 or a 9/10 depending on the day, a 7/10 every day might be more preferable. While harsh it was a bit of a mé feiner performance from him yesterday, it's just more frustrating when someone has the ability and doesn't execute I guess.
Overall again securing primary possession is a continuing problem, I don't know if the solution will be found this year by the looks of it, it's the one real killer looking to the summer, we'd give any team outside of the top 4 a game if this problem was fixed or at least mitigated to an extent that is wasn't the glaring problem.
It's good to have complaints while winning but I'm sure that it's the same things that the management and players are focussed on themselves. If you'd offered this set of results at the start of the league to any Galway football fan we'd have took the hand off you. Contrast Galway with our fellow 2017 Division 2 finalists, it might only be the league but there is nothing to be said for losing every week.
Kyne and Kerins played very well defensively yesterday, Heaney was also excellent I thought, what a superb score from the mark and long sideline run in the first half, if it was a Kerryman or Dub that scored it their media heads would be fawning over it. Comer was effective when in possession, Brannigan was back to decent form in the second half as well.

I'll be heading to Salthill with trepidation for next week but it's better that the weak links are fully exposed ahead of May 13th. People are talking about psychological damage from taking a pasting from Dublin but they battered Kerry by 12 (it could have been 18/20) yesterday and they can do it to any team.
I could be very wrong but I don't think there's any better prep for the team ahead of May 13th than two matches against the Dubs, trying to match them is the standard Mayo have lifted themselves to every year since 2012, this is where Galway are looking to get to.

Speaking of Dublin, I was in CP for the Dublin-Kerry match yesterday and the bottom line is that unless Mayo have a massive performance in a win or go home game next August/September against the Dubs, I can't see them being caught by anyone, they toyed with Kerry yesterday and taking into account the list of players that didn't tog out for them, it's hard to believe how far out in front of everyone they are in terms of quality throughout a squad.
The Galway lads will surely know what the gold standard to aspire to is after the league final on the 1st April, hopefully Galway Aprils Fools day related headlines on the match reports won't be what we're just looking at on the 2nd!

Spot on as usual, would have too see some stats but thought their was their was a slight improvement on kickouts in the first half or more likely it was my imagination. There's no point in over analysing the 2nd half kickouts because of the extra man. The 2nd half did show that when Galway applied more pressure to Monaghans kickouts they did well on them and got plenty of scores as a direct result of winning them. I'm expecting Galway to really struggle for possession on Sunday which should lead to a comfortable Dublin win, I'm hoping this will lead to a change in strategy going forward with the kickouts.

It appears its only Galway who will suffer from a hammering by the Dubs, they've dished out hidings to practically everyone the last few years but its only it appears its only Galway who will suffer a huge psychological blow because of it. If Galway get beat by Mayo on the May the 13th it won't be down to two hammerings at the hands of the Dubs.

This is a young Galway panel who hopefully in a couple of years with 3 or 4 more additions may have a chance of challenging for the big prize.

I would not be so sure! Heavy defeats can be soul destroying especially for defenders!
Has anyone the view that Galway might go on and win this league title? Kerry this time last year fell into the final their form wasnt great while Galway have strolled into the final with a few games to spare. I suppose it all depends what is Galways plan B if and when Dublin break down their defensive system.

I think we might give them a decent game next weekend in Salthill. It's meant to be baltic and if the wind is whipping in off the Atlantic it won't be pleasant. I'd be a bit worried about the league final though, that it could get ugly.

Given the evidence of the first half last weekend, monaghan are comfortably a better side than Galway at present - despite the latter’s excellent form thus far in the league.

Looking at the changes Monaghan made for that game, they may not be disappointed to miss out on a league final.

Agreed. Fair play to O'Rourke, he has given game time to many which has clearly helped develop the squad and strengthen the bench. The bench last weekend had more experience than 1-15. Happy enough where we're at. In the past few years it could be argued that we went flat out early on and were fatigued come the summer time. I'd be happy to test if the alternative.

Galway are in no doubt at a different point on the curve i.e. going flat out to stay in div 1, which they are right to do and have obviously exceeded. They are an exciting team to watch, full of energy and running. They've brought a freshness to the division this year and make a change from the usual heavy-weight/cards-close-to-chest/shadow-boxing encounters that inevitably take place. The Dublin test(s) are a little bit irrelevant for me yet, as many other, and more experienced teams have been taught a lesson by them. I don't think it'll do them any harm if they get beaten, twice. We've been beaten at key junctures many times but it doesn't stop us continuing to develop the squad and coming back stronger, or at least trying to.. a fundamental of sporting participation.



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« Reply #772 on: March 14, 2018, 10:39:48 AM »
They say 5000 dubs will be in Pearse stadium Sunday along with 4000 Galway supporters and that's being optimistic!
Personally have  never seen  this Dublin team up close so will go out of curiosity,not expecting a Galway win and hope we don't get destroyed it will be some experience and I think Monahan showed in the first half the chinks that may exist in the system.Galway have the forwards to stay in the game but I think our problem is getting possession.Anyway looking forward to it a loss of 7 pts or under would not be so bad.

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« Reply #773 on: March 14, 2018, 10:53:41 AM »
4,000 Galways! !!!!!! :o :o :o
Hope they can find the Stadium...
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« Reply #774 on: March 14, 2018, 10:56:27 AM »
They say 5000 dubs will be in Pearse stadium Sunday along with 4000 Galway supporters and that's being optimistic!
Personally have  never seen  this Dublin team up close so will go out of curiosity,not expecting a Galway win and hope we don't get destroyed it will be some experience and I think Monahan showed in the first half the chinks that may exist in the system.Galway have the forwards to stay in the game but I think our problem is getting possession.Anyway looking forward to it a loss of 7 pts or under would not be so bad.
Why would so many turn up for what is more or less a dead rubber and where both will be giving a run out to players that haven't started a game so far this year?

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« Reply #775 on: March 14, 2018, 11:29:29 AM »
Anecdotally I know a good few Dubs that had the trip to Galway planned from a long way out, more for the weekend away and the craic to be had in Galway than any major considerations about the match to be honest.

4000 Galway football fans in Salthill next Sunday is beyond optimistic I'd have thought, they'll be very doing well to get anywhere near that even for the league final.

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« Reply #776 on: March 14, 2018, 11:36:35 AM »
They say 5000 dubs will be in Pearse stadium Sunday along with 4000 Galway supporters and that's being optimistic!
Personally have  never seen  this Dublin team up close so will go out of curiosity,not expecting a Galway win and hope we don't get destroyed it will be some experience and I think Monahan showed in the first half the chinks that may exist in the system.Galway have the forwards to stay in the game but I think our problem is getting possession.Anyway looking forward to it a loss of 7 pts or under would not be so bad.
Why would so many turn up for what is more or less a dead rubber and where both will be giving a run out to players that haven't started a game so far this year?

When you have population of 1,600,000 five thousand is far from ‘so many’.. glorified holiday of those lads so thinking the game or its consequences come into their decision making is fanciful.

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« Reply #777 on: March 14, 2018, 11:45:33 AM »
4,000 Galways! !!!!!! :o :o :o
Hope they can find the Stadium...

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« Reply #778 on: March 14, 2018, 11:47:21 AM »
Anecdotally I know a good few Dubs that had the trip to Galway planned from a long way out, more for the weekend away and the craic to be had in Galway than any major considerations about the match to be honest.

4000 Galway football fans in Salthill next Sunday is beyond optimistic I'd have thought, they'll be very doing well to get anywhere near that even for the league final.
Yeah, would agree on all that attendance wise.  Anyway, really looking forward to the probable 2 tilts at the Dubs.  We all know our deficiencies at this stage but the present management and squad should learn a lot from playing easily the best team we have seen in quite a while  - its a relatively young squad so I dont see us carrying too much scar tissue into the championship even if the results go the way most pundits expect.   

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« Reply #779 on: March 14, 2018, 12:36:39 PM »
Surely to God there'll be more than 4000 Galway fans at this game against the All Ireland champions.
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