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Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
« Reply #510 on: March 13, 2018, 08:10:21 AM »
Meath hurling has improved


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« Reply #511 on: March 13, 2018, 09:54:58 AM »

It is hard to believe how bad Meath are. Big county with a big population and a growing population. To me it stinks of a total mismanagement by county board in terms of harnessing that population.Its almost sad to see it happening, almost ;)

Leinster populations in general have snowballed over the last 20 years or so but apart from Dublin there has been little progress elsewhere football wise in Leinster counties. Has rugby or soccer badly effected GAA participation in those counties? I'm not going off any stats but I'd imagine rugby has become increasingly popular in Meath. Also for a county with many big towns their club scene is nothing to write home about. Rugby clubs tend to have a better organised playing schedule than GAA and a much more structured training regime which may appeal better to younger sports people. Maybe the GAA has dropped the ball a bit in Leinster and over invested in Dublin GAA?
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« Reply #512 on: March 13, 2018, 10:03:12 AM »

It is hard to believe how bad Meath are. Big county with a big population and a growing population. To me it stinks of a total mismanagement by county board in terms of harnessing that population.Its almost sad to see it happening, almost ;)

Leinster populations in general have snowballed over the last 20 years or so but apart from Dublin there has been little progress elsewhere football wise in Leinster counties. Has rugby or soccer badly effected GAA participation in those counties? I'm not going off any stats but I'd imagine rugby has become increasingly popular in Meath. Also for a county with many big towns their club scene is nothing to write home about. Rugby clubs tend to have a better organised playing schedule than GAA and a much more structured training regime which may appeal better to younger sports people. Maybe the GAA has dropped the ball a bit in Leinster and over invested in Dublin GAA?

I have friends in Meath who are big GAA fans
All of their kids play Rugby
of course this is just people I know but it gives you an idea

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Re: 2018 NFL Division 2
« Reply #513 on: March 13, 2018, 10:17:23 AM »
The snowballing of Leinster's population would be mainly in Louth Meath Wicklow and Kildare I suspect?
About 725k in those Counties now and a much higher number under 30 than the national average.
I suspect the GAA clubs have the same number of volunteers and structure as they had before the big increases in population?
Definitely time the "GAA needs successful Leinster Counties".
As for the rest of us.......... .
2018- 2 Cupeens won, 2 to go.

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« Reply #514 on: March 13, 2018, 10:24:41 AM »
There's just so much more to do in Meath compared to most other counties.
We have a vibrant visual and performing arts scene and there is a resurgence in the popularity of musical theatre, which had been banned until recently.
Kids have lots of choices nowadays.
Compare this with Mayo, where it's a choice between football and picking rocks out of a field to boil for your dinner; or Cavan, where it's a choice between football and arguing with disobedient farm animals.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

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« Reply #515 on: March 13, 2018, 11:23:05 AM »
There's just so much more to do in Meath compared to most other counties.
We have a vibrant visual and performing arts scene and there is a resurgence in the popularity of musical theatre, which had been banned until recently.
Kids have lots of choices nowadays.
Compare this with Mayo, where it's a choice between football and picking rocks out of a field to boil for your dinner; or Cavan, where it's a choice between football and arguing with disobedient farm animals.

And there's Bettystown. Don't forget Bettystown.

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« Reply #516 on: March 13, 2018, 11:28:04 AM »
There's just so much more to do in Meath compared to most other counties.
We have a vibrant visual and performing arts scene and there is a resurgence in the popularity of musical theatre, which had been banned until recently.
Kids have lots of choices nowadays.
Compare this with Mayo, where it's a choice between football and picking rocks out of a field to boil for your dinner; or Cavan, where it's a choice between football and arguing with disobedient farm animals.

I argued with a crazy aul goat in Breffni on Saturday night !

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« Reply #517 on: March 13, 2018, 11:32:36 AM »

It is hard to believe how bad Meath are. Big county with a big population and a growing population. To me it stinks of a total mismanagement by county board in terms of harnessing that population.Its almost sad to see it happening, almost ;)

Leinster populations in general have snowballed over the last 20 years or so but apart from Dublin there has been little progress elsewhere football wise in Leinster counties. Has rugby or soccer badly effected GAA participation in those counties? I'm not going off any stats but I'd imagine rugby has become increasingly popular in Meath. Also for a county with many big towns their club scene is nothing to write home about. Rugby clubs tend to have a better organised playing schedule than GAA and a much more structured training regime which may appeal better to younger sports people. Maybe the GAA has dropped the ball a bit in Leinster and over invested in Dublin GAA?

I have friends in Meath who are big GAA fans
All of their kids play Rugby
of course this is just people I know but it gives you an idea

Out of interest are they still in the area they grew up in? Affiliation is a big thing in the GAA and club can be a big part of the family and community. With mass movement of people and a big influx of population into a certain area that affiliation can be gone. People new to the area might be apathetic to the GAA club and not particularly bothered on their kids joining. They would more likely just be glad to see their kids playing a sport (any sport) and leading healthy lives with a good network of friends. There could be more of a need for a proactive recruitment drive from GAA clubs in order to avail of these new numbers. But PR requires money and resources that may not be available. Maybe affiliation is so ingrained in the GAA it has made it lazy and complacent?   

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« Reply #518 on: March 13, 2018, 11:38:22 AM »
Look, lets not beat around the bush here.
We all know the Dubs are to blame.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

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« Reply #519 on: March 13, 2018, 11:39:35 AM »
Once a towns population rises over a certain figure set up a new club based on the new housing estates.
Youngsters will grow up with it being their club.
Established clubs run by oul bucks suspicious of blow ins aren't the most welcoming of places.
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« Reply #520 on: March 13, 2018, 11:47:53 AM »
There's just so much more to do in Meath compared to most other counties.
We have a vibrant visual and performing arts scene and there is a resurgence in the popularity of musical theatre, which had been banned until recently.
Kids have lots of choices nowadays.
Compare this with Mayo, where it's a choice between football and picking rocks out of a field to boil for your dinner; or Cavan, where it's a choice between football and arguing with disobedient farm animals.

And there's Bettystown. Don't forget Bettystown.


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« Reply #521 on: March 13, 2018, 11:50:14 AM »
Once a towns population rises over a certain figure set up a new club based on the new housing estates.
Youngsters will grow up with it being their club.
Established clubs run by oul bucks suspicious of blow ins aren't the most welcoming of places.

Huge capital investment would be needed in that scenario. Even if capital was available I don't think more clubs are needed. Improving what we have would be the way to go. Changing our approach and as you said changing attitudes.

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« Reply #522 on: March 13, 2018, 11:56:03 AM »
There's just so much more to do in Meath compared to most other counties.
We have a vibrant visual and performing arts scene and there is a resurgence in the popularity of musical theatre, which had been banned until recently.
Kids have lots of choices nowadays.
Compare this with Mayo, where it's a choice between football and picking rocks out of a field to boil for your dinner; or Cavan, where it's a choice between football and arguing with disobedient farm animals.

And there's Bettystown. Don't forget Bettystown.




There's quite a bit of the green and red in that photo. Blowins?

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« Reply #523 on: March 13, 2018, 11:56:20 AM »
There's just so much more to do in Meath compared to most other counties.
We have a vibrant visual and performing arts scene and there is a resurgence in the popularity of musical theatre, which had been banned until recently.
Kids have lots of choices nowadays.
Compare this with Mayo, where it's a choice between football and picking rocks out of a field to boil for your dinner; or Cavan, where it's a choice between football and arguing with disobedient farm animals.

I argued with a crazy aul goat in Breffni on Saturday night !

If you stopped trying to mount the goat she wouldnt argue with you.

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« Reply #524 on: March 13, 2018, 12:01:10 PM »

It is hard to believe how bad Meath are. Big county with a big population and a growing population. To me it stinks of a total mismanagement by county board in terms of harnessing that population.Its almost sad to see it happening, almost ;)

Leinster populations in general have snowballed over the last 20 years or so but apart from Dublin there has been little progress elsewhere football wise in Leinster counties. Has rugby or soccer badly effected GAA participation in those counties? I'm not going off any stats but I'd imagine rugby has become increasingly popular in Meath. Also for a county with many big towns their club scene is nothing to write home about. Rugby clubs tend to have a better organised playing schedule than GAA and a much more structured training regime which may appeal better to younger sports people. Maybe the GAA has dropped the ball a bit in Leinster and over invested in Dublin GAA?

I have friends in Meath who are big GAA fans
All of their kids play Rugby
of course this is just people I know but it gives you an idea

Out of interest are they still in the area they grew up in? Affiliation is a big thing in the GAA and club can be a big part of the family and community. With mass movement of people and a big influx of population into a certain area that affiliation can be gone. People new to the area might be apathetic to the GAA club and not particularly bothered on their kids joining. They would more likely just be glad to see their kids playing a sport (any sport) and leading healthy lives with a good network of friends. There could be more of a need for a proactive recruitment drive from GAA clubs in order to avail of these new numbers. But PR requires money and resources that may not be available. Maybe affiliation is so ingrained in the GAA it has made it lazy and complacent?

Some are native Meath (Nobber and Ashbourne).
Others are blowins from the West and Dublin
They would have settled in late 90's