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Re: Sigerson Cup 2018
« Reply #120 on: February 13, 2018, 04:13:33 PM »
Because apart from the participants nobody gives a damn.
2018- 2 Cupeens won, 2 to go.

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Re: Sigerson Cup 2018
« Reply #121 on: February 13, 2018, 04:44:40 PM »
College Spirit: Why are student populations so detached from third-level GAA?
http://gaawrap.ie/2018/02/college-spirit-student-populations-detached-third-level-gaa/

There’s no attempt to make the matches big events on campus. Which is all the more strange at the places who throw sports schlorships at players (or worse in the case of some northern colleges) and treat winning a Sigerson as a prestige symbol.

For one if they want the wider community involved like they are in American college sports the matches would need to be played in the evenings or on weekends.

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Re: Sigerson Cup 2018
« Reply #122 on: February 14, 2018, 07:49:42 AM »
its played in the depths of winter

often the games are not played on the campus.
students generally save their money fir socialising

if you wanted the alumni to attend (which is the majority of people at us college sports) then weekend games are the way to go
 

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Re: Sigerson Cup 2018
« Reply #123 on: February 14, 2018, 10:52:43 AM »
In the US, the college identity, by and large, is associated with their sports teams. (Similar to the way we tend to identify with our county teams). University culture in Ireland doesn't have that element where your whole perception of a college (as a casual observer) is tied up in whether or not they have a good Hurling/Camogie/Football team. Not to mind swimming, athletics, soccer or anything else.

I think Syferus mentioned he went to Auburn. If he did, he was probably totally immersed in the Tigers, and the whole vibe on Campus is set by the sports teams and how they are perceived nationally. It's a huge point of pride.

Over here, nobody in UL, apart from the people involved, really care if the 'Wolves' win the Fitzgibbon. It will be great, but there won't be mad celebrations by the student population, and their sense of identity with the college won't be determined by how the team does.

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Re: Sigerson Cup 2018
« Reply #124 on: February 14, 2018, 02:33:12 PM »
Because apart from the participants nobody gives a damn.

Played in a Fresher's final with approx. 5 thousand attending, played in Casement Park on a Saturday afternoon.

Played in a Sigerson semi final with approx. 5 thousand at the game (Held in  Limerick)
Was involved in a Sigerson final played in Tralee with approx. 10 thousand at the final.

If Sigerson was played in the appropriate venue, people are interested in attending, It is the highest quality of football after senior county.

And the latest offering of playing the finals in November is a farce,

Colleges come back for the new term late Sept...... how to f£$k are you meant to gather a squad and train them when the first round of Sigerson knock outs would have to begin in about 3 weeks

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Re: Sigerson Cup 2018
« Reply #125 on: February 14, 2018, 02:41:48 PM »
Because apart from the participants nobody gives a damn.

Played in a Fresher's final with approx. 5 thousand attending, played in Casement Park on a Saturday afternoon.

Played in a Sigerson semi final with approx. 5 thousand at the game (Held in  Limerick)
Was involved in a Sigerson final played in Tralee with approx. 10 thousand at the final.

If Sigerson was played in the appropriate venue, people are interested in attending, It is the highest quality of football after senior county.

And the latest offering of playing the finals in November is a farce,

Colleges come back for the new term late Sept...... how to f£$k are you meant to gather a squad and train them when the first round of Sigerson knock outs would have to begin in about 3 weeks

It should be played even earlier than November, October weather is still usually halfway decent.

Theee weeks is plenty of time for preparing a team that will be filled with senior and U20 players coming off far harder seasons at those grades.

If the Sigerson wants to be a big deal it needs to stop being so precious about being played in the spring. Doing that already fûcked the U21 AI, a much more enjoyable competition and probably has contributed to even more distain for 3rd level competitions among GAA supporters.
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Re: Sigerson Cup 2018
« Reply #126 on: February 14, 2018, 03:19:20 PM »
Because apart from the participants nobody gives a damn.

Played in a Fresher's final with approx. 5 thousand attending, played in Casement Park on a Saturday afternoon.

Played in a Sigerson semi final with approx. 5 thousand at the game (Held in  Limerick)
Was involved in a Sigerson final played in Tralee with approx. 10 thousand at the final.

If Sigerson was played in the appropriate venue, people are interested in attending, It is the highest quality of football after senior county.

And the latest offering of playing the finals in November is a farce,

Colleges come back for the new term late Sept...... how to f£$k are you meant to gather a squad and train them when the first round of Sigerson knock outs would have to begin in about 3 weeks

It should be played even earlier than November, October weather is still usually Galway’s decent.

Theee weeks is plenty of time for preparing a team that will be filled with senior and U20 players coming off far harder seasons at those grades.

If the Sigerson wants to be a big deal it needs to stop being so precious about being played in the spring. Doing that already fûcked the U21 AI, a much more enjoyable competition and probably has contributed to even more distain for 3rd level competitions among GAA supporters.

well put Syf.

for the overall development of the game intercounty u21 was much more important

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Re: Sigerson Cup 2018
« Reply #127 on: February 14, 2018, 03:46:55 PM »
Most people don't care where you went to school/college in this country.
That's a good thing.
In fact, the only people that give a damn about school/college affiliations are the rugby crowd.
Thus, we don't really have an alumni culture from a college sports perspective.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

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Re: Sigerson Cup 2018
« Reply #128 on: February 14, 2018, 03:49:13 PM »
Most people don't care where you went to school/college in this country.
That's a good thing.
In fact, the only people that give a damn about school/college affiliations are the rugby crowd.
Thus, we don't really have an alumni culture from a college sports perspective.

You haven’t met many Trinity snobs so Jinxy.

Jinxy

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Re: Sigerson Cup 2018
« Reply #129 on: February 14, 2018, 04:08:05 PM »
I've included them in the rugby crowd.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

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Re: Sigerson Cup 2018
« Reply #130 on: February 14, 2018, 05:31:42 PM »
Most people don't care where you went to school/college in this country.
That's a good thing.
In fact, the only people that give a damn about school/college affiliations are the rugby crowd.
Thus, we don't really have an alumni culture from a college sports perspective.

Maybe in the North it's different, but the gaelic clubs in Queens, St Mary's and UUJ were really strong and each had distinct GAA communities (prob St. Mary's had the strongest community). The derby games were always well attended and I know of people who would go to the games but never attended the colleges.

College football is really the last competition where you get to play with lads from other counties, and in some ways it is a youth version of the Railway Cup. During my time at the Poly, I got to play with lads from all the Ulster counties as well as a few Sligo, Mayo, Louth and a lone Kerryman, and in our league division, we played against Sligo, Althone, DIT, and the Dublin colleges,

That experience was invaluable to me as a player and a person and HE GAA is an organization should be cherished and not degraded.

The fact that it is the county season that is putting pressure on it is not lost on me either. First it was the Railway Cup, then HE GAA and the next and final causality will be club football.



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Re: Sigerson Cup 2018
« Reply #131 on: February 14, 2018, 06:53:44 PM »
Your last 6 words is nonsense with all due respect.
2018- 2 Cupeens won, 2 to go.

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Re: Sigerson Cup 2018
« Reply #132 on: February 14, 2018, 07:18:51 PM »
15 mins into tonights Sigerson cup semi finals and not a single tweet from the two matches thus far. Some lack of interest there..

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Re: Sigerson Cup 2018
« Reply #133 on: February 14, 2018, 07:24:41 PM »
Too exciting.

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Re: Sigerson Cup 2018
« Reply #134 on: February 14, 2018, 07:35:14 PM »
Did you really go to Auburn, Syf?
Were you there when them Alabama hoors poured roundup on the tree?
If you were any use you'd be playing.