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laoislad

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Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
« Reply #585 on: June 23, 2018, 09:05:38 PM »

shark

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Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
« Reply #586 on: June 23, 2018, 09:07:35 PM »
Could have a team failing to qualify having got 6 points.
Yeah. Mexico Sweden and Germany could all end up on 6 points.
https://www.google.ie/amp/www.goal.com/en/amp/news/world-cup-group-stage-tie-breakers-rules-what-happens-when-teams-/olh39ph3hunh1w1zdmhp3osft

If Sweden beat Mexico by 1 goal then we will probably see a draw from a hat!

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Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
« Reply #587 on: June 23, 2018, 09:13:27 PM »
Are positions decided firstly on goal difference?

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Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
« Reply #588 on: June 23, 2018, 09:17:56 PM »
Jumped the gun on a draw from a hat. Should have read the link first!  Didn’t realise they use head to head. In fact, fair play points come before a draw.

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Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
« Reply #589 on: June 23, 2018, 10:10:52 PM »
Are positions decided firstly on goal difference?

Yes
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Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
« Reply #590 on: June 23, 2018, 10:39:10 PM »

Here are the possibilities in the Mexico-Germany-Sweden-South Korea Group.  Nobody is officially out, or officially through to last 16 after two games.

- Mexico need a point vs. Sweden to go through and top the group.
- Sweden must better Germany's result to guarantee qualifying. If they beat Mexico and Germany fail to win, Sweden will top the group.
- Germany must better Sweden's result to guarantee qualifying.
- If both Germany and Sweden draw, the team in the higher-scoring game will finish second. If both draws are the same scoreline, Germany finish second on head to head.
- South Korea must beat Germany and hope Sweden lose to Mexico to have a chance of qualifying.

THREE-WAY TIE FOR FIRST AND SECOND
- If Sweden and Germany win they will finish level on six points with Mexico, and it will first come down to goal difference.
- Sweden are through in all scenarios.
- If Sweden win by two or more goals then Germany are guaranteed to qualify with any win (Mexico out)
- If Germany win by two or more goals then Sweden are through with any win (Mexico out)
- If both Germany and Sweden win by two goals they are both through (Mexico out)
- If both Germany and Sweden win 1-0 the three teams would have identical records and it would go to head-to-head mini-league, and this would see Germany and Sweden through on goals scored (with Germany top on direct head to head with Sweden) and Mexico out.
- If both Germany and Sweden win 2-1 (or any higher one-goal identical margin of victory) then Sweden would win the group, Mexico in second and Germany third on head to head goals scored
- The only other way Mexico can go through, at the expense of Germany, if is both games are won by one goal, but Mexico's defeat against Sweden is a higher-scoring game.
- If Sweden win by one goal, and Germany win by one goal but in a high-scoring game, Germany win the group with Sweden in second and Mexico out

THREE-WAY TIE FOR SECOND
- If South Korea win and Sweden lose there will be a three-way tie for second on three points for Germany, Sweden and South Korea. It will first come down to goal difference.
- If South Korea beat Germany by two goals they are guaranteed to finish second
- If South Korea beat Germany 1-0 and Sweden lose 1-0 to Mexico, Germany would be second on direct head to head against Sweden with South Korea bottom
- If South Korea beat Germany by a higher-scoring one-goal margin than Sweden lose to Mexico, then South Korea would finish second on direct head to head against Germany with Sweden bottom
- If Sweden lose by more than one goal they cannot qualify, and South Korea would therefore finish second with any victory

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Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
« Reply #591 on: June 23, 2018, 11:48:19 PM »
I think it is advantage Germany in the race for second place. They play Korea who have lost both games. Germany will be looking to win by 2 clear goals to guarantee progress.

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Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
« Reply #592 on: June 24, 2018, 12:08:53 AM »
South Korea won't beat Germany so all the above is a load of bollocks.

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Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
« Reply #593 on: June 24, 2018, 04:43:25 AM »
South Korea won't beat Germany so all the above is a load of bollocks.

Or a load of Tony Baloney...

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Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
« Reply #594 on: June 24, 2018, 09:16:04 AM »
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/jun/23/toni-kroos-germany-sweden-world-cup-match-report

Germany had stepped on to the front foot at the outset, squeezing up the field, with their full-backs pinned high. They took an early grip on possession, with one statistic showing they made 122 passes in the opening 10 minutes to Sweden’s six.

The worry for Löw was how threatening Sweden came to look on the counterattack and how easily they carved apart his team. It was extraordinary to see a German defence in such open and obliging mood. It was no exaggeration to say the game could have been over at the interval.
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Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
« Reply #595 on: June 24, 2018, 01:16:36 PM »
Fifa have opened a disciplinary procedure against Xhaka and Shakiri after their  political gestures on Friday .


Die FIFA hat ein Disziplinarverfahren gegen Granit Xhaka und Xherdan Shaqiri eröffnet. Grund dafür ist der Jubel der beiden Schweizer Nationalspieler im Spiel gegen Serbien. Auch Serbien-Coach Mladen Krstajic hat Ärger am Hals.
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Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
« Reply #596 on: June 24, 2018, 01:46:25 PM »
Jaysus, that Panama team are dung.

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Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
« Reply #597 on: June 24, 2018, 01:48:02 PM »
England’s inevitable flop is going to be extra sweet this year.

shark

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Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
« Reply #598 on: June 24, 2018, 01:48:30 PM »
Jaysus, that Panama team are dung.

Imagine the shit that’s going to qualify for 2026 with 9 additional non European teams.

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Re: The Official World Cup 2018 Thread
« Reply #599 on: June 24, 2018, 01:50:52 PM »
England’s inevitable flop is going to be extra sweet this year.

What do you reckon constitutes a flop for them? I reckon 1/4 final is par. And most of what I’ve read in English media realises that. I wouldn’t take the BBC studio as the pulse of their nation. Just like I wouldn’t do it for Brexit  :P