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trentoneill15

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I urge any Irish Nationalists to boycott Wikipedia
« on: November 03, 2017, 04:56:21 PM »
It might sound a bit trivial but it is the principal of it.

I started an account to do a bit of editing, I tried to edit Liam Neesons nationality to Irish, this isn't controversial as he talks about being Irish on most of his TV interviews but my edit was reverted by an 18 year old Australian because "There was no proof that Neeson was Irish", I explained about him calling himself Irish in interviews but he said I need official proof of his nationality. The way they have listed Neeson is "Actor from Northern Ireland" which is ok compared to other celebrity pages.

Of course you don't seem to have to need official proof when calling someone Northern Irish on wikipedia, it isn't an official nationality anyway so getting official proof isn't possible.
I tried to edit some soccer figures like Neil Lennon, Pat Jennings and Brendan Rodgers to "professional footballer from Northern Ireland" to keep things in line with what I was told by the Neeson editor, of course my changes were reverted back to "Northern Irish professional footballer" because "there was no need to edit them", I assumed since they played for Northern Ireland at some stage they had to be categorised as Northern Irish which is their own fault really, James McClean is listed as "Irish".

Recently I tried to edit actor Colin Morgan who is from Armagh and has called himself Irish in a TV3 interview to "Irish actor", my change was reverted back to "British/Irish" actor because of dual citizenship, the unionist editor wouldn't be as quick to change a Protestant actor to being British/Irish.

Then there were a couple more figures, Johnny McDaid being one, a musician originally from Derry, I changed him from Northern Irish to "from Northern Ireland" of course it wasn't allowed and the editor threatened to ban me, apparently it was ok to call him Northern Irish as the 2011 census showed a lot of Catholics view themselves as Northern Irish only.

To sum things up it is ok for unionist identities to be put on people but it isn't ok for Irish to be used as a nationality for someone of the Ulster-Irish heritage. It isn't ok for Neeson to be Irish but it is ok for the Northern Irish tag to be used for people.

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Re: I urge any Irish Nationalists to boycott Wikipedia
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2017, 05:10:04 PM »
It is a bit trivial.

Trying to boycott a massive and genuinely awesome open source project like Wikipedia because of a few rogue issues you have with it is a very north of Ireland response to a problem.

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Re: I urge any Irish Nationalists to boycott Wikipedia
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2017, 05:11:03 PM »
What was the editor's name? Was it Mooretwin?

Jim Bob

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Re: I urge any Irish Nationalists to boycott Wikipedia
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2017, 05:15:09 PM »
Have you nothing better to be doing?

trentoneill15

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Re: I urge any Irish Nationalists to boycott Wikipedia
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2017, 05:18:08 PM »
Have you nothing better to be doing?

You know the time it took you to type that comment is the same time it takes to make a wikipedia edit

Gabriel_Hurl

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Re: I urge any Irish Nationalists to boycott Wikipedia
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2017, 05:18:39 PM »
doesn't make his point any less valid

trentoneill15

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Re: I urge any Irish Nationalists to boycott Wikipedia
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2017, 05:19:06 PM »
It is a bit trivial.

Trying to boycott a massive and genuinely awesome open source project like Wikipedia because of a few rogue issues you have with it is a very north of Ireland response to a problem.

I urged Irish nationalists to boycott wikipedia, if you aren't irritated by this then you aren't an Irish Nationalist.

trentoneill15

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Re: I urge any Irish Nationalists to boycott Wikipedia
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2017, 05:21:11 PM »
What was the editor's name? Was it Mooretwin?

There were several editors involved, one was a unionist but a lot of his major writing was in Irish history especially ancient Ulster history.

Jim Bob

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Re: I urge any Irish Nationalists to boycott Wikipedia
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2017, 05:23:16 PM »
Have you nothing better to be doing?

You know the time it took you to type that comment is the same time it takes to make a wikipedia edit

.....and the long introductory post?

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Re: I urge any Irish Nationalists to boycott Wikipedia
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2017, 05:40:10 PM »
Checked Liam Neeson and it is showing his nationality as Irish. Also checked a few of our writers that the Brits often claim. It has Oscar Wilde as Irish and Bram Stoker as Irish. Has George Bernard Shaw as dual. Hard to make a case that it is biased.

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Re: I urge any Irish Nationalists to boycott Wikipedia
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2017, 05:49:09 PM »
Last time I looked at the GAA page the "criticism" section had grown to engulf over a quarter of the page because of a unionist editor compiling every negative thing that was ever said about the gah. After numerous disputes with him I promptly applied the same standard to the Linfield FC page.

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Re: I urge any Irish Nationalists to boycott Wikipedia
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2017, 06:30:49 PM »
Last time I looked at the GAA page the "criticism" section had grown to engulf over a quarter of the page because of a unionist editor compiling every negative thing that was ever said about the gah. After numerous disputes with him I promptly applied the same standard to the Linfield FC page.

There are some real sad cases on that site translating this, that and the other into Ulster Scots. Wouldn't blame wikipedia really.

Eamonnca1

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Re: I urge any Irish Nationalists to boycott Wikipedia
« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2017, 08:48:10 PM »
And how exactly would you "boycott" wikipedia? They don't earn any revenue as their traffic grows.

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Re: I urge any Irish Nationalists to boycott Wikipedia
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2017, 08:50:30 PM »
And how exactly would you "boycott" wikipedia? They don't earn any revenue as their traffic grows.

How about putting them on an ignore list. That usually works.
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Re: I urge any Irish Nationalists to boycott Wikipedia
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2017, 09:43:10 PM »
What was the editor's name? Was it Mooretwin?
There's a blast from the past. Is he really at that?

As regards the OP, wise up.