Las Vegas Shooting

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Eamonnca1

Quote from: whitey on October 02, 2017, 11:59:24 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on October 02, 2017, 10:45:01 PM
Says more about the mentality of the average american; all to gung ho and no normal person can think owing a semi automatic gun can be deemed as required for personal protection or hunting!! If u look at most conflicts past 50yrs America been stuck in them; its their opportunity to sell guns ; missles; planes;  all big businness in the states

Stop taling $hite....you know nothing about the "average" American

In the Northeast 3/4 of households dont even own a fvcking gun

https://www.thoughtco.com/gun-owners-percentage-of-state-populations-3325153

Sarcasm doesn't translate well in this format.

From your article:

STATES WITH EXTREMELY HIGH POPULATIONS OF GUN OWNERS (MORE THAN 50%)
1. Wyoming - 59.7%
2. Alaska - 57.8%
3. Montana - 57.7%
4. South Dakota - 56.6%
5. West Virginia - 55.4%
6. Mississippi - 55.3%
6. Idaho - 55.3%
6. Arkansas - 55.3%
9. Alabama - 51.7%
10. North Dakota - 50.7%

STATES WITH HIGH POPULATIONS OF GUN OWNERS
11. Kentucky - 47.7%
12. Wisconsin - 44.4% (Battleground state. See Wisconsin in 2012 Elections.)
13. Louisiana - 44.1%
14. Utah - 43.9%
14. Tennessee - 43.9%
16. Oklahoma - 42.9%
16. Iowa - 42.9% (Battleground state.)
18. South Carolina - 42.3%
19. Kansas - 42.1%
20. Vermont - 42.0%
21. Missouri - 41.7% (Battleground state.)
21. Minnesota - 41.7%
23. North Carolina - 41.3% (Battleground state.)
24. Maine - 40.5%
25. Georgia - 40.3%

STATES WITH MEDIAN POPULATIONS OF GUN OWNERS
26. Oregon - 39.8%
27. Indiana - 39.1%
28. Nebraska - 38.6%
29. Michigan - 38.4% (Battleground state.)
30. Texas - 35.9%
31. Virginia - 35.1% (Battleground state.)
32. New Mexico - 34.8% (Battleground state.)
33. Colorado - 34.7% (Battleground state.)
34. Pennsylvania - 34.7% (Battleground state. See Pennsylvania in 2012 Elections.)
35. Nevada - 33.8% (Battleground state. See Nevada in 2012 Elections.)
36. Washington - 33.1%
37. Ohio - 32.4% (Battleground state. See Ohio in 2012 Elections.)
38. Arizona - 31.1% (Battleground state.)
39. New Hampshire - 30.0% (Battleground state.)

STATES WITH BELOW MEDIAN POPULATIONS OF GUN OWNERS
40. Delaware - 25.5%
41. Florida - 24.5% (Battleground state. See Florida in 2012 Elections.)
42. California - 21.3%
42. Maryland - 21.3%
44. Illinois - 20.2%
45. New York - 18%
46. Connecticut - 16.7%
47. Rhode Island - 12.8%
48. Massachusetts - 12.6%
49. New Jersey - 12.3%
50. Hawaii - 6.7%

I shudder to think how many guns are out there. Last I heard there were more guns than people in the US.

Captain Obvious

ISIS will claim every hit on the USA. RIP to all of the innocent victims, unfortunately mass murders like this have become all too common.

whitey

Quote from: Eamonnca1 on October 03, 2017, 12:30:49 AM
Quote from: whitey on October 02, 2017, 11:59:24 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on October 02, 2017, 10:45:01 PM
Says more about the mentality of the average american; all to gung ho and no normal person can think owing a semi automatic gun can be deemed as required for personal protection or hunting!! If u look at most conflicts past 50yrs America been stuck in them; its their opportunity to sell guns ; missles; planes;  all big businness in the states

Stop taling $hite....you know nothing about the "average" American

In the Northeast 3/4 of households dont even own a fvcking gun

https://www.thoughtco.com/gun-owners-percentage-of-state-populations-3325153

Sarcasm doesn't translate well in this format.

From your article:

STATES WITH EXTREMELY HIGH POPULATIONS OF GUN OWNERS (MORE THAN 50%)
1. Wyoming - 59.7%
2. Alaska - 57.8%
3. Montana - 57.7%
4. South Dakota - 56.6%
5. West Virginia - 55.4%
6. Mississippi - 55.3%
6. Idaho - 55.3%
6. Arkansas - 55.3%
9. Alabama - 51.7%
10. North Dakota - 50.7%

STATES WITH HIGH POPULATIONS OF GUN OWNERS
11. Kentucky - 47.7%
12. Wisconsin - 44.4% (Battleground state. See Wisconsin in 2012 Elections.)
13. Louisiana - 44.1%
14. Utah - 43.9%
14. Tennessee - 43.9%
16. Oklahoma - 42.9%
16. Iowa - 42.9% (Battleground state.)
18. South Carolina - 42.3%
19. Kansas - 42.1%
20. Vermont - 42.0%
21. Missouri - 41.7% (Battleground state.)
21. Minnesota - 41.7%
23. North Carolina - 41.3% (Battleground state.)
24. Maine - 40.5%
25. Georgia - 40.3%

STATES WITH MEDIAN POPULATIONS OF GUN OWNERS
26. Oregon - 39.8%
27. Indiana - 39.1%
28. Nebraska - 38.6%
29. Michigan - 38.4% (Battleground state.)
30. Texas - 35.9%
31. Virginia - 35.1% (Battleground state.)
32. New Mexico - 34.8% (Battleground state.)
33. Colorado - 34.7% (Battleground state.)
34. Pennsylvania - 34.7% (Battleground state. See Pennsylvania in 2012 Elections.)
35. Nevada - 33.8% (Battleground state. See Nevada in 2012 Elections.)
36. Washington - 33.1%
37. Ohio - 32.4% (Battleground state. See Ohio in 2012 Elections.)
38. Arizona - 31.1% (Battleground state.)
39. New Hampshire - 30.0% (Battleground state.)

STATES WITH BELOW MEDIAN POPULATIONS OF GUN OWNERS
40. Delaware - 25.5%
41. Florida - 24.5% (Battleground state. See Florida in 2012 Elections.)
42. California - 21.3%
42. Maryland - 21.3%
44. Illinois - 20.2%
45. New York - 18%
46. Connecticut - 16.7%
47. Rhode Island - 12.8%
48. Massachusetts - 12.6%
49. New Jersey - 12.3%
50. Hawaii - 6.7%

I shudder to think how many guns are out there. Last I heard there were more guns than people in the US.

Big states with huge populations like CA, IL, NJ, NY and FL all have very low gun ownership.....hence the utter stupidity of referencing the "average American"...... theres no such thing


Just checked my town.....over 500 people have gun permits and there hasnt been a shooting or murder here in the 20 years I have lived here.  Meanwhile, the town I grew up in in Ireland has had about 6 murders in the past 10 years.

Cunny Funt

42 guns recovered from Stephen Paddocks home and hotel room WTF!

Never beat the deeler

Quote from: whitey on October 03, 2017, 01:03:32 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on October 03, 2017, 12:30:49 AM
Quote from: whitey on October 02, 2017, 11:59:24 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on October 02, 2017, 10:45:01 PM
Says more about the mentality of the average american; all to gung ho and no normal person can think owing a semi automatic gun can be deemed as required for personal protection or hunting!! If u look at most conflicts past 50yrs America been stuck in them; its their opportunity to sell guns ; missles; planes;  all big businness in the states

Stop taling $hite....you know nothing about the "average" American

In the Northeast 3/4 of households dont even own a fvcking gun

https://www.thoughtco.com/gun-owners-percentage-of-state-populations-3325153

Sarcasm doesn't translate well in this format.

From your article:

STATES WITH EXTREMELY HIGH POPULATIONS OF GUN OWNERS (MORE THAN 50%)
1. Wyoming - 59.7%
2. Alaska - 57.8%
3. Montana - 57.7%
4. South Dakota - 56.6%
5. West Virginia - 55.4%
6. Mississippi - 55.3%
6. Idaho - 55.3%
6. Arkansas - 55.3%
9. Alabama - 51.7%
10. North Dakota - 50.7%

STATES WITH HIGH POPULATIONS OF GUN OWNERS
11. Kentucky - 47.7%
12. Wisconsin - 44.4% (Battleground state. See Wisconsin in 2012 Elections.)
13. Louisiana - 44.1%
14. Utah - 43.9%
14. Tennessee - 43.9%
16. Oklahoma - 42.9%
16. Iowa - 42.9% (Battleground state.)
18. South Carolina - 42.3%
19. Kansas - 42.1%
20. Vermont - 42.0%
21. Missouri - 41.7% (Battleground state.)
21. Minnesota - 41.7%
23. North Carolina - 41.3% (Battleground state.)
24. Maine - 40.5%
25. Georgia - 40.3%

STATES WITH MEDIAN POPULATIONS OF GUN OWNERS
26. Oregon - 39.8%
27. Indiana - 39.1%
28. Nebraska - 38.6%
29. Michigan - 38.4% (Battleground state.)
30. Texas - 35.9%
31. Virginia - 35.1% (Battleground state.)
32. New Mexico - 34.8% (Battleground state.)
33. Colorado - 34.7% (Battleground state.)
34. Pennsylvania - 34.7% (Battleground state. See Pennsylvania in 2012 Elections.)
35. Nevada - 33.8% (Battleground state. See Nevada in 2012 Elections.)
36. Washington - 33.1%
37. Ohio - 32.4% (Battleground state. See Ohio in 2012 Elections.)
38. Arizona - 31.1% (Battleground state.)
39. New Hampshire - 30.0% (Battleground state.)

STATES WITH BELOW MEDIAN POPULATIONS OF GUN OWNERS
40. Delaware - 25.5%
41. Florida - 24.5% (Battleground state. See Florida in 2012 Elections.)
42. California - 21.3%
42. Maryland - 21.3%
44. Illinois - 20.2%
45. New York - 18%
46. Connecticut - 16.7%
47. Rhode Island - 12.8%
48. Massachusetts - 12.6%
49. New Jersey - 12.3%
50. Hawaii - 6.7%

I shudder to think how many guns are out there. Last I heard there were more guns than people in the US.

Big states with huge populations like CA, IL, NJ, NY and FL all have very low gun ownership.....hence the utter stupidity of referencing the "average American"...... theres no such thing


Just checked my town.....over 500 people have gun permits and there hasnt been a shooting or murder here in the 20 years I have lived here.  Meanwhile, the town I grew up in in Ireland has had about 6 murders in the past 10 years.

why are you comparing shooting murders in one town with murders in another?

How many murders in each?
How many shooting murders in each?

Despite the obvious - it's a ridiculously small sample size, and you have obviously only used it as it suits your argument - you are using two totally different things to try and prove your point!
Hasta la victoria siempre

heganboy

Quote from: whitey on October 03, 2017, 01:03:32 AM

Just checked my town.....over 500 people have gun permits and there hasnt been a shooting or murder here in the 20 years I have lived here.  Meanwhile, the town I grew up in in Ireland has had about 6 murders in the past 10 years.

Whitey you trot this shite out over and over again, and you still can't do the mathematics.
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity

seafoid

Quote from: FL/MAYO on October 02, 2017, 07:58:04 PM
From speaking to one of the many gun owners I work with you can still buy an automatic weapon legally in the U.S  if you go through an extensive background check and pay $20000 for each weapon. He also said it's pretty easy to turn a semi automatic into an automatic weapon. As someone said earlier if nothing changed after Sandy Hook it'll never change.
Things have to get to a state of chaos in the US before there is change. Slavery resulted in civil war Jim Crow ended in riots across the country.  Plutocracy ended in negative ream interest rates and WW2.

whitey

Quote from: Never beat the deeler on October 03, 2017, 03:52:32 AM
Quote from: whitey on October 03, 2017, 01:03:32 AM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on October 03, 2017, 12:30:49 AM
Quote from: whitey on October 02, 2017, 11:59:24 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on October 02, 2017, 10:45:01 PM
Says more about the mentality of the average american; all to gung ho and no normal person can think owing a semi automatic gun can be deemed as required for personal protection or hunting!! If u look at most conflicts past 50yrs America been stuck in them; its their opportunity to sell guns ; missles; planes;  all big businness in the states

Stop taling $hite....you know nothing about the "average" American

In the Northeast 3/4 of households dont even own a fvcking gun

https://www.thoughtco.com/gun-owners-percentage-of-state-populations-3325153

Sarcasm doesn't translate well in this format.

From your article:

STATES WITH EXTREMELY HIGH POPULATIONS OF GUN OWNERS (MORE THAN 50%)
1. Wyoming - 59.7%
2. Alaska - 57.8%
3. Montana - 57.7%
4. South Dakota - 56.6%
5. West Virginia - 55.4%
6. Mississippi - 55.3%
6. Idaho - 55.3%
6. Arkansas - 55.3%
9. Alabama - 51.7%
10. North Dakota - 50.7%

STATES WITH HIGH POPULATIONS OF GUN OWNERS
11. Kentucky - 47.7%
12. Wisconsin - 44.4% (Battleground state. See Wisconsin in 2012 Elections.)
13. Louisiana - 44.1%
14. Utah - 43.9%
14. Tennessee - 43.9%
16. Oklahoma - 42.9%
16. Iowa - 42.9% (Battleground state.)
18. South Carolina - 42.3%
19. Kansas - 42.1%
20. Vermont - 42.0%
21. Missouri - 41.7% (Battleground state.)
21. Minnesota - 41.7%
23. North Carolina - 41.3% (Battleground state.)
24. Maine - 40.5%
25. Georgia - 40.3%

STATES WITH MEDIAN POPULATIONS OF GUN OWNERS
26. Oregon - 39.8%
27. Indiana - 39.1%
28. Nebraska - 38.6%
29. Michigan - 38.4% (Battleground state.)
30. Texas - 35.9%
31. Virginia - 35.1% (Battleground state.)
32. New Mexico - 34.8% (Battleground state.)
33. Colorado - 34.7% (Battleground state.)
34. Pennsylvania - 34.7% (Battleground state. See Pennsylvania in 2012 Elections.)
35. Nevada - 33.8% (Battleground state. See Nevada in 2012 Elections.)
36. Washington - 33.1%
37. Ohio - 32.4% (Battleground state. See Ohio in 2012 Elections.)
38. Arizona - 31.1% (Battleground state.)
39. New Hampshire - 30.0% (Battleground state.)

STATES WITH BELOW MEDIAN POPULATIONS OF GUN OWNERS
40. Delaware - 25.5%
41. Florida - 24.5% (Battleground state. See Florida in 2012 Elections.)
42. California - 21.3%
42. Maryland - 21.3%
44. Illinois - 20.2%
45. New York - 18%
46. Connecticut - 16.7%
47. Rhode Island - 12.8%
48. Massachusetts - 12.6%
49. New Jersey - 12.3%
50. Hawaii - 6.7%

I shudder to think how many guns are out there. Last I heard there were more guns than people in the US.

Big states with huge populations like CA, IL, NJ, NY and FL all have very low gun ownership.....hence the utter stupidity of referencing the "average American"...... theres no such thing


Just checked my town.....over 500 people have gun permits and there hasnt been a shooting or murder here in the 20 years I have lived here.  Meanwhile, the town I grew up in in Ireland has had about 6 murders in the past 10 years.

why are you comparing shooting murders in one town with murders in another?

How many murders in each?
How many shooting murders in each?

Despite the obvious - it's a ridiculously small sample size, and you have obviously only used it as it suits your argument - you are using two totally different things to try and prove your point!

My point is as ridiculous as the original poster who was making broad statements about the "average American, all too gung ho".  Theres no such thing as the average American....theres wide disparities between states and even within states as to the level of gunnownership and crime.

whitey

Quote from: heganboy on October 03, 2017, 06:58:21 AM
Quote from: whitey on October 03, 2017, 01:03:32 AM

Just checked my town.....over 500 people have gun permits and there hasnt been a shooting or murder here in the 20 years I have lived here.  Meanwhile, the town I grew up in in Ireland has had about 6 murders in the past 10 years.

Whitey you trot this shite out over and over again, and you still can't do the mathematics.

Re read the thread....Im responding to the "average American being all gung ho".

My point is somewhat tongue in cheek, but obviously that part flew over your head. 

stew

Clinton has come out and demanded the silencer bill be defeated! I did not know the NRA in congress were trying to get this bill passed, I hope they get it shoved up their collective arses, she is 100% right but as usual she has a clear ulterior motive, nevertheless, well done for highlighting the fact arseholes think it a good idea to be able to subdue rapid gunfire.


They are saying this is the largest loss of American life in American history, tell that to the people who got slaughtered at wounded knee!

Finally, a CNN bigshot posted that she wasnt upset that so many lost their lives because the crowd were mostly repugs and Republicans so who the F**K cares basically, they quite rightly fired her stupid ass.
Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.

seafoid

9 rounds per second.
Why does anyone need a gun that shoots 9 rounds per second?  For f**k's sake.

Puckoon

Quote from: stew on October 03, 2017, 12:35:33 PM

Finally, a CNN bigshot posted that she wasnt upset that so many lost their lives because the crowd were mostly repugs and Republicans so who the F**K cares basically, they quite rightly fired her stupid ass.

CBS lawyer. Not CNN. Based on current media opinions you've offered this is an important correction.

Her additional comments were incredibly awful and she was rightly terminated (from her job). Her initial sentence wasn't that far off the mark

"If they wouldn't do anything when children were murdered I have no hope that Repugs will ever do the right thing"

J70

Quote from: stew on October 03, 2017, 12:35:33 PM
Clinton has come out and demanded the silencer bill be defeated! I did not know the NRA in congress were trying to get this bill passed, I hope they get it shoved up their collective arses, she is 100% right but as usual she has a clear ulterior motive, nevertheless, well done for highlighting the fact arseholes think it a good idea to be able to subdue rapid gunfire.


They are saying this is the largest loss of American life in American history, tell that to the people who got slaughtered at wounded knee!

Finally, a CNN bigshot posted that she wasnt upset that so many lost their lives because the crowd were mostly repugs and Republicans so who the F**K cares basically, they quite rightly fired her stupid ass.

You just can't help yourself! 😄

What's Clinton's "clear ulterior motive"?

I think they're talking about the largest, civilian mass shooting.

Wounded Knee was US Army on official duty. Utterly shameful, but they were carrying out government policy, reprehensible as it was.

Gabriel_Hurl

The silencer bill also includes a provision to make it easier to buy armour piercing bullets  :o

whitey

While automatic weapons are essentially outlawed, for $50 you can buy a device that turns a semi automatic into an automatic.  Its not illegal to either sell or install them yourself