Author Topic: Connacht Club Championships 2017 - Senior/Intermediate/Junior Football & Hurling  (Read 17278 times)

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Thought MM would give Corofin more of a game, obviously the semi final was a wake up call. MM probably would have more joy if they'd drawn them in the semi.

Or maybe Annaghdown are a  better team than Mounbellew-Moylough especially defensively?

After seeing the game yesterday I'd agree Annaghdown are a better team than MM, now Corofin were outstanding yesterday, a completely different team to the day they played Annaghdown but MM were disappointing. Presuming Brigids are favourites for the Roscommon championship they'll be out for revenge if they get to meet them on 12th November. Corofin were very impressive though, they'll be hard to stop in Connacht anyway.

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Thought MM would give Corofin more of a game, obviously the semi final was a wake up call. MM probably would have more joy if they'd drawn them in the semi.

Or maybe Annaghdown are a  better team than Mounbellew-Moylough especially defensively?

After seeing the game yesterday I'd agree Annaghdown are a better team than MM, now Corofin were outstanding yesterday, a completely different team to the day they played Annaghdown but MM were disappointing. Presuming Brigids are favourites for the Roscommon championship they'll be out for revenge if they get to meet them on 12th November. Corofin were very impressive though, they'll be hard to stop in Connacht anyway.

Unlike Corofin, Brigids are in full rebuild mode. The B team that won junior easily was mostly U23 players, so they’re using the B side to develop players for the senior team, which is now filled with a lot of young lads itself. Leaders like Frankie, Mango, the AI-wining captain Gearoid Cunniffe and others are now gone. The captain of the B team was actually Robbie Kelly, a member of the AI-winning side. The biggest addition from last year would be that Peter Domican has returned from Dubai and looks to be back to his best.

They hammered their opponents in the senior final by about 25 points in the group stages a few weeks ago, and while that was partly to do with Brigids needing the win and Gaels already being quailified, it’s hard to see them overturning Brigids a few weeks later.
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Thought MM would give Corofin more of a game, obviously the semi final was a wake up call. MM probably would have more joy if they'd drawn them in the semi.

Or maybe Annaghdown are a  better team than Mounbellew-Moylough especially defensively?

After seeing the game yesterday I'd agree Annaghdown are a better team than MM, now Corofin were outstanding yesterday, a completely different team to the day they played Annaghdown but MM were disappointing. Presuming Brigids are favourites for the Roscommon championship they'll be out for revenge if they get to meet them on 12th November. Corofin were very impressive though, they'll be hard to stop in Connacht anyway.

Serious strength in depth for Corofin, Daithi Burke and 2 U21's who played in an All Ireland final all on the bench. Its not hard to see why their strong favourites for the province.

Is the Mayo final this weekend? Not much rest for the winner of tonights reply if it is.

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Thought MM would give Corofin more of a game, obviously the semi final was a wake up call. MM probably would have more joy if they'd drawn them in the semi.

Or maybe Annaghdown are a  better team than Mounbellew-Moylough especially defensively?

After seeing the game yesterday I'd agree Annaghdown are a better team than MM, now Corofin were outstanding yesterday, a completely different team to the day they played Annaghdown but MM were disappointing. Presuming Brigids are favourites for the Roscommon championship they'll be out for revenge if they get to meet them on 12th November. Corofin were very impressive though, they'll be hard to stop in Connacht anyway.

Serious strength in depth for Corofin, Daithi Burke and 2 U21's who played in an All Ireland final all on the bench. Its not hard to see why their strong favourites for the province.

Is the Mayo final this weekend? Not much rest for the winner of tonights reply if it is.

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Mayo Senior Hurling Final
Sat 21st Oct 4pm      Venue: Tooreen     Ballyhaunis V Tooreen

Mayo Intermediate Football Final
Sun 22nd Oct 1.30 pm    Venue: Elvery's McHale Park, Castlebar        Kiltimagh  v  Moy Davitt's

Mayo Senior Football Final
Sun 22nd Oct 3.30pm      Venue: Elvery's McHale Park Castlebar        Ballintubber v Castlebar Mitchel's orGarrymore

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Senior football and hurling finals on in Sligo on Sunday, Calry v Western Gaels in hurling and Tourlestrane v Eastern Harps football. Calry and Tourlestrane should retain their titles, nothing new for Calry but it'll be historic in the football as no team has won back-to-back senior titles since St. Pat's in 1988 & 89.

The Junior football final is on Saturday with Tourlestrane also involved against Ballymote. Ballymote might have it tight but should win and make a quick return to intermediate, they will be in Connacht either way.

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Mayo Senior Hurling Final
Sat 21st Oct 4pm      Venue: Tooreen     Ballyhaunis V Tooreen

Mayo Intermediate Football Final
Sun 22nd Oct 1.30 pm    Venue: Elvery's McHale Park, Castlebar        Kiltimagh  v  Moy Davitt's

Mayo Senior Football Final
Sun 22nd Oct 3.30pm      Venue: Elvery's McHale Park Castlebar        Ballintubber v Castlebar Mitchel's orGarrymore

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Mayo club championship reduced to farce


 Last night, Castlebar Mitchels played Garrymore in the Mayo senior football championship semi-final. In three days’ time, the winners of that game will play a county final. Waiting for them will be Ballintubber, who eight days ago faced Hollymount-Carramore in a quarter-final replay, before beating Claremorris in their semi-final last Sunday.

And all this mad rush to ensure that, allowing a week for a replay if the final ends in a draw, Mayo have a representative in the Connacht club championship to face Leitrim champions Mohill on November 4th.

To say this is a ridiculous state of affairs is to state the obvious. Maybe Mayo’s ten-game run through the 2017 championship explains it, and maybe it doesn’t, but either way the idea that so many club players have to travel from Galway or from Dublin, as would have been the case for players on all four teams asked to play the biggest game of their year under lights in the middle of the week, is pretty shabby.

The Mayo champions will either beat Mohill, or they won’t on November 4th. But the fact that the efforts of all the club players in Mayo are demeaned by being asked to play such important games on a Wednesday night, to facilitate the Connacht club championship never ceases to amaze.

Ballintubber have never won a Connacht club title, but they’ve only ever won three Mayo championships. Maybe they’ll care about the Connacht club championship, but maybe that’ll only happen when they get there and they’re finished celebrating.

The provincial club championships can be glorious, can provide us with some brilliant games, and keep us all entertained in the winter if you can’t face the Premier League or the rugby, but let’s keep some perspective, please.

For club players of every stripe, your county championship is the blue riband. It’s the be-all and end-all. It needs to be treated as such.

The Connacht Council set a date in their diary for the first round of their provincial club championship, and just like that, the Mayo County board has to scramble madly to have a team for that date.

This is putting the cart before the horse on a grand scale – it’s telling David Lean to hurry up and chop 75 minutes off Lawrence of Arabia to ensure it fits on a double-bill with a Hammer horror movie.
Serial winners

There are a number of football clubs in the entire country for whom the provincial and All-Ireland club championships are a major goal – Corofin; Castlebar Mitchels; St Brigid’s; Kilcoo, given the regularity with which they win the Down county championship; Slaughtneil; Crossmaglen, until recently; Dr Crokes; Portlaoise; Rhode; St Vincent’s. Am I forgetting anyone?

And what unites all these clubs is that they’re all serial winners. Their county championship only has reduced meaning for them because they keep winning it. For everyone else the county final is the date in the diary that has real meaning.

The chance to prove yourself the best team in the province is a nice challenge, and if you were to go on a run and win a few games, well that would be great too. But defeat is never too bitter a pill to swallow, because let’s face it – from the minute you won your county final, you were in bonus territory.

County boards should never unduly hasten their county championships to facilitate those nine or ten clubs who care about what comes next – in fact, it’s madness to think that they ever would in the first place.

The only people put out by not starting the provincial club championships until all of the county finals are finished, are the winners of the other county championships – and those lads are happy enough.

Wait until you have all the teams are ready to play, and then play every game to a finish – as many periods of extra-time as required, or a free-taking competition – but no draws, and three or four weekends would see all the provincial competitions taken care of.

If that means some of the provincial championships have to be finished in January, then so be it – I would have far less of a problem with that than with what is going on in Mayo at the moment. Those teams who would have to wait until after Christmas for defeat to come their way in the provincial championship would still have their county medals. All the losers will have from last night are regrets.

Playing county semi-finals on a Wednesday evening in late October, and then asking the winners to line out in a county final four days later, is unconscionable. It demeans the idea of the county championship for no good reason.


https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/ciar%C3%A1n-murphy-mayo-club-championship-reduced-to-farce-1.3261096

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Some utter nonsense there. It's Mayo's own fault they couldn't finish their championship in a more professional manner, and to suggest the other four counties in Connacht should put the provincial championships on hold is so cross-eyed in its thinking I'm a little staggered it was published in the Times by what I can only assume is a professional journalist. With the ultimate goal of being able to run off both the provincial and All-Ireland club championships in the same calendar year, the suggestion the provincial championship be pushed back because one county has shat the bed is retrograde thinking in the extreme. The only solution is Mayo re-organising their championship so more rounds are played in the lull after the league, or rounds are played in the middle of the championship. The solution offered is, simply put, not a tenable one. He even seriously suggests a provincial club match be decided via a free kick competition..!

This makes the worst excesses of Martin Breheny pale, to be honest.
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Senior football and hurling finals on in Sligo on Sunday, Calry v Western Gaels in hurling and Tourlestrane v Eastern Harps football. Calry and Tourlestrane should retain their titles, nothing new for Calry but it'll be historic in the football as no team has won back-to-back senior titles since St. Pat's in 1988 & 89.

The Junior football final is on Saturday with Tourlestrane also involved against Ballymote. Ballymote might have it tight but should win and make a quick return to intermediate, they will be in Connacht either way.


I'd agree with all that except I think Western Gaels have a great chance in the hurling. Hard to see Harps beating Tourlestrane. Tubber the first day was the time to beat Tourlestrane.....they're up to full pace now and will probably win comfortably.

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Mayo club championship reduced to farce


 Last night, Castlebar Mitchels played Garrymore in the Mayo senior football championship semi-final. In three days’ time, the winners of that game will play a county final. Waiting for them will be Ballintubber, who eight days ago faced Hollymount-Carramore in a quarter-final replay, before beating Claremorris in their semi-final last Sunday.

And all this mad rush to ensure that, allowing a week for a replay if the final ends in a draw, Mayo have a representative in the Connacht club championship to face Leitrim champions Mohill on November 4th.

To say this is a ridiculous state of affairs is to state the obvious. Maybe Mayo’s ten-game run through the 2017 championship explains it, and maybe it doesn’t, but either way the idea that so many club players have to travel from Galway or from Dublin, as would have been the case for players on all four teams asked to play the biggest game of their year under lights in the middle of the week, is pretty shabby.

The Mayo champions will either beat Mohill, or they won’t on November 4th. But the fact that the efforts of all the club players in Mayo are demeaned by being asked to play such important games on a Wednesday night, to facilitate the Connacht club championship never ceases to amaze.

Ballintubber have never won a Connacht club title, but they’ve only ever won three Mayo championships. Maybe they’ll care about the Connacht club championship, but maybe that’ll only happen when they get there and they’re finished celebrating.

The provincial club championships can be glorious, can provide us with some brilliant games, and keep us all entertained in the winter if you can’t face the Premier League or the rugby, but let’s keep some perspective, please.

For club players of every stripe, your county championship is the blue riband. It’s the be-all and end-all. It needs to be treated as such.

The Connacht Council set a date in their diary for the first round of their provincial club championship, and just like that, the Mayo County board has to scramble madly to have a team for that date.

This is putting the cart before the horse on a grand scale – it’s telling David Lean to hurry up and chop 75 minutes off Lawrence of Arabia to ensure it fits on a double-bill with a Hammer horror movie.
Serial winners

There are a number of football clubs in the entire country for whom the provincial and All-Ireland club championships are a major goal – Corofin; Castlebar Mitchels; St Brigid’s; Kilcoo, given the regularity with which they win the Down county championship; Slaughtneil; Crossmaglen, until recently; Dr Crokes; Portlaoise; Rhode; St Vincent’s. Am I forgetting anyone?

And what unites all these clubs is that they’re all serial winners. Their county championship only has reduced meaning for them because they keep winning it. For everyone else the county final is the date in the diary that has real meaning.

The chance to prove yourself the best team in the province is a nice challenge, and if you were to go on a run and win a few games, well that would be great too. But defeat is never too bitter a pill to swallow, because let’s face it – from the minute you won your county final, you were in bonus territory.

County boards should never unduly hasten their county championships to facilitate those nine or ten clubs who care about what comes next – in fact, it’s madness to think that they ever would in the first place.

The only people put out by not starting the provincial club championships until all of the county finals are finished, are the winners of the other county championships – and those lads are happy enough.

Wait until you have all the teams are ready to play, and then play every game to a finish – as many periods of extra-time as required, or a free-taking competition – but no draws, and three or four weekends would see all the provincial competitions taken care of.

If that means some of the provincial championships have to be finished in January, then so be it – I would have far less of a problem with that than with what is going on in Mayo at the moment. Those teams who would have to wait until after Christmas for defeat to come their way in the provincial championship would still have their county medals. All the losers will have from last night are regrets.

Playing county semi-finals on a Wednesday evening in late October, and then asking the winners to line out in a county final four days later, is unconscionable. It demeans the idea of the county championship for no good reason.


https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/ciar%C3%A1n-murphy-mayo-club-championship-reduced-to-farce-1.3261096
I find myself in total agreement with Syferus on this one. The 10 games run of the Mayo Senior team was not the cause of this fiasco, rather it was was the crazy decision not to play the final round-robin game of the club championship earlier in the season. We have prided ourselves on our fixture programme in Mayo and have had our finals played off much earlier even in 96 after a replayed All Ireland. County teams shouldn't be allowed to encroach any further on club games. Clubs have only themselves to blame for this as they voted to postpone a round. As long as they continue to send sheep to county board meetings it won't change.

As an aside, there have been incredible crowds in McHale Park on the last two Weds evenings. Friday night and Saturday county night matches have proven very popular up to this but the crowd for stand alone club games were amazing. The number of neutrals from within Mayo was remarkable not to mention the north-Galway contingent. Allowing for the difficulty in having players travel who are working or in college in Dublin there is food for thought there.

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Great to see Toreen not only overcome the Prentys but hammer them in the Mayo SHC final. 2-10 to 0-06.

Toreen are one of the best anomalies in the GAA.

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Big win for St John’s yesterday v  aughnasheelin
2-13 to 0-4 I think
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Tourlestrane County Champions

1-13 to 1-9

Watched it on youtube and the quality of the video and commentary was excellent.  Well done to all involved.
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Brigids 3-13 Ros Gaels 3-7.
Minor Final Brigids 4-17 Clann 4-8.
Defensive coaches urgently required.
Brigids also won Junior A and U 16 (by about 30 pts ).
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2018- 2 Cupeens won, 2 to go.