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« Reply #3405 on: October 13, 2019, 06:49:29 PM »
Not really - I think you probably summed up your own analysis with “he did rightly” - 6 players ahead of him & probably McGill Lavey & Dougan Glen thrown in there too.

Johnston was one of the first names on the team sheet when we were in Div 1 & 2, not saying hes going to turn the teams fortunes around but he’d start before mcgill, dougan, doherty for me. He was stationed at full back before he left for austraila where he wouldnt be comfortable. I think he’d add to a stronger competition for places if nothing else. Id have danny heavron and loughlin back in aswell.

From U20’s McCluskey, P McGrogan.


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« Reply #3406 on: October 13, 2019, 07:58:36 PM »
I wouldn’t have thought he’d have been one of the first names on the team sheet back then  & would have all those mentioned ahead of him at the moment - but Rory Gallagher will be a far better judge than you or I hopefully

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« Reply #3407 on: October 13, 2019, 08:26:44 PM »
I wouldn’t have thought he’d have been one of the first names on the team sheet back then  & would have all those mentioned ahead of him at the moment - but Rory Gallagher will be a far better judge than you or I hopefully
Well, he was. An intelligent, strong player. 

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« Reply #3408 on: October 14, 2019, 02:11:48 PM »
Not really - I think you probably summed up your own analysis with “he did rightly” - 6 players ahead of him & probably McGill Lavey & Dougan Glen thrown in there too.

Johnston was one of the first names on the team sheet when we were in Div 1 & 2, not saying hes going to turn the teams fortunes around but he’d start before mcgill, dougan, doherty for me. He was stationed at full back before he left for austraila where he wouldnt be comfortable. I think he’d add to a stronger competition for places if nothing else. Id have danny heavron and loughlin back in aswell.

From U20’s McCluskey, P McGrogan.

I actually thought he was one of our best half backs for a long time, then he got pulled into full back and really struggled.
I'd absolutely have him there.
Agree on heavron and loughlin.
We need to strengthen all over the pitch. We need someone to lead the line in the forwards, we need a more natural full back than Rodgers I think (I'd have him in the half back line with McKaigue in full back).
We are in serious need of a physical forward....someone tall and strong. We have a group of decent forwards but none are physically imposing, rather we have small nippy men. They can be more effective with someone to play off.
I hope Gallagher re-assesses the goalkeeping options.
I'm really not sure if there are any midfielders in the county not already involved, but I'd like a bit more mobility and strength in there.
Interesting times, as if Glen proceed we are going to be without McFaul and Bradley (at least) and they'd be 2 of the first names on the teamsheet for me.
I actually think Magherafelt will really push Glen and could take it. I was impressed by them this year in terms of organisation and fitness, plus they have some talented players. Probably the best I've seen McGuckian playing in a few years too (possibly bring him back onto the Derry panel as well, along with both heavrons).

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« Reply #3409 on: October 15, 2019, 04:13:28 PM »
Quite excited for this weekend! There should be some interesting match ups! McFaul Vs D. Heavron, JD Vs kearnsey and Dougie Vs Emmet mcguckin among many others!
Think it'll be quite a tight game but I think and hope glen's running game will be too strong!

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« Reply #3410 on: October 15, 2019, 07:52:01 PM »
Quite excited for this weekend! There should be some interesting match ups! McFaul Vs D. Heavron, JD Vs kearnsey and Dougie Vs Emmet mcguckin among many others!
Think it'll be quite a tight game but I think and hope glen's running game will be too strong!
This year has seen a number of surprise results. In This years senior final I predict a similar pattern. Magherafelt to win by 4pts. I've studied the teams,the pitch,the preparation and the Referee and I conclude Rossa will win.

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« Reply #3411 on: October 16, 2019, 09:46:11 AM »
I feel the real turning point for Glen was the previous thread getting locked down. The whole thing just seemed to get a fresh start and they haven't looked back since  ;)
Claudy by 5
Glen by 2

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« Reply #3412 on: October 16, 2019, 11:36:00 AM »
I think there is a toss of a coin between who wins between Glen and Magherafelt, so I went heads for Glen and tails for Magherafelt.  Heads won 2 out of 3.

Claudy haven't beaten Foreglen in twenty-something years in league or championship.  On paper they should win easily enough on Sunday and get that monkey off their backs.  I wonder if they have the right mentality though - is the thought of beating Foreglen going to play on their minds and hold them back?  Possibly.

I predict a very tight game, Claudy to win by two and Barry Cassidy to have a busy afternoon.

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« Reply #3413 on: October 16, 2019, 10:56:09 PM »
I feel the real turning point for Glen was the previous thread getting locked down. The whole thing just seemed to get a fresh start and they haven't looked back since  ;)
Claudy by 5
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« Reply #3414 on: October 17, 2019, 11:30:14 AM »
It will be interesting to see who Gallagher brings in to the squad this year and how much loyalty will be shown to lads who were last year and stayed with it even when Derry when the depths of division 4. Will those who said no to a Derry call up in recent years or those who cleared out for the summer in the past be brought back in to the fold.  Derry could probably have a squad of lads over the last 5 or more years who have been cast aside who would give any squad selected a good run for their money.  They'd certainly have plenty of motivation after being fecked over and then maybe those who turned their back on it being brought in. Wouldn't be that hopeful that there will consideration of long term development of the lads that have come through or loyalty to players who committed in the past.

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« Reply #3415 on: October 17, 2019, 12:26:01 PM »
Is Conor Glass likely to play a role in this weekends game?

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« Reply #3416 on: October 17, 2019, 12:29:12 PM »
It will be interesting to see who Gallagher brings in to the squad this year and how much loyalty will be shown to lads who were last year and stayed with it even when Derry when the depths of division 4. Will those who said no to a Derry call up in recent years or those who cleared out for the summer in the past be brought back in to the fold.  Derry could probably have a squad of lads over the last 5 or more years who have been cast aside who would give any squad selected a good run for their money.  They'd certainly have plenty of motivation after being fecked over and then maybe those who turned their back on it being brought in. Wouldn't be that hopeful that there will consideration of long term development of the lads that have come through or loyalty to players who committed in the past.

Surely Gallagher will start with a clean slate? What happened previously is none of his concern and he will be taking everyone at face value? What happened before his reign should really be irrelevant?

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« Reply #3417 on: October 18, 2019, 10:25:17 AM »
It will be interesting to see who Gallagher brings in to the squad this year and how much loyalty will be shown to lads who were last year and stayed with it even when Derry when the depths of division 4. Will those who said no to a Derry call up in recent years or those who cleared out for the summer in the past be brought back in to the fold.  Derry could probably have a squad of lads over the last 5 or more years who have been cast aside who would give any squad selected a good run for their money.  They'd certainly have plenty of motivation after being fecked over and then maybe those who turned their back on it being brought in. Wouldn't be that hopeful that there will consideration of long term development of the lads that have come through or loyalty to players who committed in the past.

Surely Gallagher will start with a clean slate? What happened previously is none of his concern and he will be taking everyone at face value? What happened before his reign should really be irrelevant?


That's part of the problem with Derry. Every couple of years there's a fresh start a clear out and a load of new faces. There's no development  of players or loyalty to them. All the the successful counties have the same core group for years even with changes in management.  If a Cathal McShane or Eoin Murchan was in Derry they would have been dumped years ago for not cutting it in their first year or two.  It must end up with a load of boys in a squad who don't know if they'll get any sort of chance to prove themselves or be there more than a year or two as well as players going back telling their club mates not go anywhere near a Derry set. 

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« Reply #3418 on: October 18, 2019, 11:54:05 AM »
Glen have had cakes made with "Glen County Champions 2019"

Arrogant bunch alright

Hope it doesn't come back to bite them...

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« Reply #3419 on: October 18, 2019, 11:55:19 AM »
Glen have had cakes made with "Glen County Champions 2019"

Arrogant bunch alright

Hope it doesn't come back to bite them...
You're assuming it wasn't done by a Magherafelt man  ;)