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« Reply #2835 on: June 25, 2019, 02:21:38 PM »
What this team needs is a good ruthless manager. We should break the bank and get Damian Cassidy in.  He wins everywhere he goes and hes taking our camogie team this year and they all love him.
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« Reply #2836 on: June 25, 2019, 03:44:09 PM »
What this team needs is a good ruthless manager. We should break the bank and get Damian Cassidy in.  He wins everywhere he goes and hes taking our camogie team this year and they all love him.
I was talking to a man last night and he said would give a pound or two if they got him


He was there before with a better team than there is now?

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« Reply #2837 on: June 25, 2019, 04:35:00 PM »
What this team needs is a good ruthless manager. We should break the bank and get Damian Cassidy in.  He wins everywhere he goes and hes taking our camogie team this year and they all love him.
I was talking to a man last night and he said would give a pound or two if they got him

If were breaking the bank what about malachy orourke?

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« Reply #2838 on: June 26, 2019, 08:46:23 AM »
Looking at the back page of the Irish News. It looks like Derry cannot afford what they have already, never mind forking out the big bucks for O'Rourke.
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« Reply #2839 on: June 26, 2019, 11:05:28 AM »
Prune off 6 of that crowd and it would pay for Damian

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« Reply #2840 on: June 26, 2019, 01:55:46 PM »
I didn't think the article in todays Irish News was very fair on McErlean. You have to assume he got permission from someone - the County Board or Director of Football - to appoint these men who were only doing the job they were asked to do. It may not have had the desired outcome but if the real purpose of the article is to suggest Derry should get rid of half of these people then that runs the risk of undermining McErlean's judgement and he would, in all likelihood, just walk. If he does, then finding a manager whos total budget will be less than McErleans could be fun. The story is really one about who is actually steering the ship at County Board level, not whether Derry should have a masseuse, a goalkeeper coach or a stats man.

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« Reply #2841 on: June 26, 2019, 04:43:02 PM »
O'Kane is definitely not doing Derry county board or the management any favors putting a list of names and roles.  He's using inside info there to try and nail people. His article would carry a bit of substance if he would put the numbers of support people that would normally be in place for a county team.  I would take a few people also cover some of the other teams.  Laois looked to have 6 or 7 along the line alone never mind all the medical people. He must have had this sitting ready to go to press just hoping Derry would lose.

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« Reply #2842 on: June 26, 2019, 05:53:59 PM »
Malachy O'Rourke would not take the Derry job (if it was available?) for any money.  Why,  because he had in Monaghan the most committed bunch of players in Ireland who always put the team first the players and their Co Board also put the County Team first and they had INVESTIC as their sponsor.   Derry couldn't match that. 


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« Reply #2843 on: June 27, 2019, 12:47:02 AM »
Derry put themselves in trouble jazzing up owenbeg with serious money put into it when many of those games could been played at many venues at club level and celtic Park at County. There was no need to double up on pitches.

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« Reply #2844 on: June 27, 2019, 06:59:55 AM »
Derry put themselves in trouble jazzing up owenbeg with serious money put into it when many of those games could been played at many venues at club level and celtic Park at County. There was no need to double up on pitches.

Doing up owenbeg was one of the best decisions ever taken by the county board. Great venue for most games and very central.

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« Reply #2845 on: June 27, 2019, 09:59:33 AM »
Derry put themselves in trouble jazzing up owenbeg with serious money put into it when many of those games could been played at many venues at club level and celtic Park at County. There was no need to double up on pitches.

Doing up owenbeg was one of the best decisions ever taken by the county board. Great venue for most games and very central.

Nonsense, Owenbeg was a vanity project, to build a massive stand and hold games there is a complete white elephant and a waste of money, not mention an ongoing albatross financially. And it is a shit venue for club games.

Derry third in the list of money distributed from CP in last decade and Owenbeg is what we have to show for it. Along with our Div 4 status this year of course.

On the numbers in the backroom team I remember meeting the Derry minor setup in Magherafelt leisure centre a couple of years ago when Maccers was in charge and was astonished at the number of people in the backroom set up, must have been around a dozen. It must be a full time job managing that amount of people let alone managing the team as well.  Massive overkill IMO.

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« Reply #2846 on: June 27, 2019, 10:29:10 AM »
Derry put themselves in trouble jazzing up owenbeg with serious money put into it when many of those games could been played at many venues at club level and celtic Park at County. There was no need to double up on pitches.

Doing up owenbeg was one of the best decisions ever taken by the county board. Great venue for most games and very central.

Nonsense, Owenbeg was a vanity project, to build a massive stand and hold games there is a complete white elephant and a waste of money, not mention an ongoing albatross financially. And it is a shit venue for club games.

Derry third in the list of money distributed from CP in last decade and Owenbeg is what we have to show for it. Along with our Div 4 status this year of course.

On the numbers in the backroom team I remember meeting the Derry minor setup in Magherafelt leisure centre a couple of years ago when Maccers was in charge and was astonished at the number of people in the backroom set up, must have been around a dozen. It must be a full time job managing that amount of people let alone managing the team as well.  Massive overkill IMO.
I actually agree with lenny here. I think Owenbeg is a great venue for club and county games. Pretty much every county has a large backroom team these days, you just had to look at Laois there to see they had similar if not more. The problem is balancing this out financially. There will have to be cuts and the change back to knock out club championship has obviously impacted income.

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« Reply #2847 on: June 27, 2019, 10:29:29 AM »
Derry put themselves in trouble jazzing up owenbeg with serious money put into it when many of those games could been played at many venues at club level and celtic Park at County. There was no need to double up on pitches.

Doing up owenbeg was one of the best decisions ever taken by the county board. Great venue for most games and very central.

Nonsense, Owenbeg was a vanity project, to build a massive stand and hold games there is a complete white elephant and a waste of money, not mention an ongoing albatross financially. And it is a shit venue for club games.

Derry third in the list of money distributed from CP in last decade and Owenbeg is what we have to show for it. Along with our Div 4 status this year of course.

On the numbers in the backroom team I remember meeting the Derry minor setup in Magherafelt leisure centre a couple of years ago when Maccers was in charge and was astonished at the number of people in the backroom set up, must have been around a dozen. It must be a full time job managing that amount of people let alone managing the team as well.  Massive overkill IMO.

Couldn't believe some of the names mentioned in the Irish News article as some of McErlean's backroom team. I wouldn't have the majority of them around a club set up to be dead honest. And to be fair a lot of them have never been around a club set up before but have somehow found themselves in a county set up.

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« Reply #2848 on: June 27, 2019, 11:32:38 AM »
Derry put themselves in trouble jazzing up owenbeg with serious money put into it when many of those games could been played at many venues at club level and celtic Park at County. There was no need to double up on pitches.

Doing up owenbeg was one of the best decisions ever taken by the county board. Great venue for most games and very central.

Nonsense, Owenbeg was a vanity project, to build a massive stand and hold games there is a complete white elephant and a waste of money, not mention an ongoing albatross financially. And it is a shit venue for club games.

Derry third in the list of money distributed from CP in last decade and Owenbeg is what we have to show for it. Along with our Div 4 status this year of course.

On the numbers in the backroom team I remember meeting the Derry minor setup in Magherafelt leisure centre a couple of years ago when Maccers was in charge and was astonished at the number of people in the backroom set up, must have been around a dozen. It must be a full time job managing that amount of people let alone managing the team as well.  Massive overkill IMO.
I actually agree with lenny here. I think Owenbeg is a great venue for club and county games. Pretty much every county has a large backroom team these days, you just had to look at Laois there to see they had similar if not more. The problem is balancing this out financially. There will have to be cuts and the change back to knock out club championship has obviously impacted income.

I would say there are professional football clubs working with a lot less numbers in their backroom teams than many a GAA county. Massive overkill IMO. As Toby says a lot of them have never even been involved at club level.

Owen beg as a training and development hub is a great idea, though I think it shoulda been on the other side of the Glenshane. There was absolutely no need whatsoever to build a second county ground or have a stadium there capable of hosting club or county games 18 miles from Celtic Park.We have a small number of clubs and therefore limited financial muscle and we are trying to support the upkeep of 2 county championship standard facilities less than 20 miles apart. Whoever did the sums on this will be proved to be a fool if s/he hasn't already. 

A second county ground should have been developed, IMO Maghera was the ideal location. Club championship should be held around the club grounds.

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« Reply #2849 on: June 27, 2019, 02:24:09 PM »
I'm with Keyser on this one, brilliant to have a modern training facility in Owenbeg and it was needed, but the stand and spectator facility at the level it is was not. We have Celtic Park and in a county of our size it more than met our needs as a county ground, infact its a super venue. We now have two county standard venues. Owenbeg was not needed as a county ground. Club pitches more than able to meet club championship crowds until semi-final or final stage where Celtic Park was then the venue
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