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« Reply #2070 on: October 17, 2018, 02:27:58 PM »
Championship Final Week  :)
Whats the predictions?
Will the experience of Coleraine see them over the line?
Will Brennan and Downey outfox Sean McGoldrick?

Were originally I thought Coleraine would when this match by a couple of points, I'm starting to swing the other way and think Lavey could very well win this game by the bare minimum. Will O'Boyle start? I think he will and will score a couple of goals which will be the difference. The only time Coleraine looked under pressure in the semi was when the high ball went in. In Toner and McGill they have maybe the 2 standouts this year.

Lavey by 1

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« Reply #2071 on: October 18, 2018, 10:28:34 AM »
Sean Leo & James Kielt have retired. Mark Lynch to maybe follow suit & Kevin Johnston spending the year in Australia travelling.

Not the best start to the year.

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« Reply #2072 on: October 18, 2018, 05:04:04 PM »
Sorry to hear that Derry have just lost that least three, if not four, of their leading players for the 2019 County season. Apparently, on average, almost all of the counties, except the top four or five, lost at least eight of their match day squads last year.

However in Derry's case it was much worse than that as in addition to a variety of player based decisions Management magnified the problem by not picking at least four players who should have been certainties on the panel and then prevented  two others from playing in the whole league programme when they heard that these two players would be travelling during the summer.

The commitment for modern day players is just too much when there is little hope of any success.This all leads to an urgent need for the introduction of a proper tiered,properly marketed championship structure where all counties can have a more realistic chance of some meaningful silverware.

Hopefully management will see the error of their ways last year and ensure that all of the remaining best players in the County are picked and available for all competitive matches in 2019.

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« Reply #2073 on: October 18, 2018, 05:39:31 PM »
Sorry to hear that Derry have just lost that least three, if not four, of their leading players for the 2019 County season. Apparently, on average, almost all of the counties, except the top four or five, lost at least eight of their match day squads last year.

However in Derry's case it was much worse than that as in addition to a variety of player based decisions Management magnified the problem by not picking at least four players who should have been certainties on the panel and then prevented  two others from playing in the whole league programme when they heard that these two players would be travelling during the summer.

The commitment for modern day players is just too much when there is little hope of any success.This all leads to an urgent need for the introduction of a proper tiered,properly marketed championship structure where all counties can have a more realistic chance of some meaningful silverware.

Hopefully management will see the error of their ways last year and ensure that all of the remaining best players in the County are picked and available for all competitive matches in 2019.

Some good points.  Though i would go back to straight knockout. 
The Backdoor only suits the bigger counties, in that they can take the risk of putting mammoth efforts in every year and dont really run the risk of being knocked out over two games.  In a 1 off game everyone has a fighting chance. Few big scalps every year, big teams might rethink their approach and players their own buy in.  I know this will never happen mind, given the money the GAA pocket.

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« Reply #2074 on: October 18, 2018, 05:42:07 PM »
Sorry to hear that Derry have just lost that least three, if not four, of their leading players for the 2019 County season. Apparently, on average, almost all of the counties, except the top four or five, lost at least eight of their match day squads last year.

However in Derry's case it was much worse than that as in addition to a variety of player based decisions Management magnified the problem by not picking at least four players who should have been certainties on the panel and then prevented  two others from playing in the whole league programme when they heard that these two players would be travelling during the summer.

The commitment for modern day players is just too much when there is little hope of any success.This all leads to an urgent need for the introduction of a proper tiered,properly marketed championship structure where all counties can have a more realistic chance of some meaningful silverware.

Hopefully management will see the error of their ways last year and ensure that all of the remaining best players in the County are picked and available for all competitive matches in 2019.

Some good points.  Though i would go back to straight knockout. 
The Backdoor only suits the bigger counties, in that they can take the risk of putting mammoth efforts in every year and dont really run the risk of being knocked out over two games.  In a 1 off game everyone has a fighting chance. Few big scalps every year, big teams might rethink their approach and players their own buy in.  I know this will never happen mind, given the money the GAA pocket.

I'd probably agree, though we've had some great adventures in the qualifiers down through the years. The commitment levels are ridiculous

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« Reply #2075 on: October 18, 2018, 09:42:23 PM »
Sean Leo & James Kielt have retired. Mark Lynch to maybe follow suit & Kevin Johnston spending the year in Australia travelling.

Not the best start to the year.

3 good servants there who are coming to the end of their careers and it’s doubtful if they would be starting players next season. At their age they probably don’t want to put in that kind of effort just to be squad players. Johnston is a capable player also who will hopefully be back in derry colours the season after next.

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« Reply #2076 on: October 18, 2018, 10:32:11 PM »
Hopefully, Lenny, your two clubmen who were not selected this year by management along with Ryan Bell  will be fit and back in Derry colours in 2019.An injury free Danny Heavron would be a huge boost to the squad as would Ryan Bell.Will never forget his outstanding display in the Qualifiers against Mayo in Castlebar last year.

I heard rumours that two other leading players are considering going abroad next year.Let us hope that is not the case as we need all our best players available and selected more than ever in order to build a coherent winning momentum albeit in Division Four.

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« Reply #2077 on: October 19, 2018, 01:33:29 PM »
It's a shame that the lads have retired but I wish them all the best, they'll be missed. I kind of hope Lynch retires too - still one of our best players in the county but that man doesn't owe Derry a single thing. He has no need to be traipsing up and down the country playing division 4 football at his age.

Time for some of the younger boys to step up. I am still convinced that we've got the makings of a decent side. I worry about our physicality in defence but we've an opportunity now to get a squad together for the league and to potentially head into the Tyrone game on a winning run. If we're beat at that stage, it is what it is.

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« Reply #2078 on: October 19, 2018, 02:09:58 PM »
Hopefully, Lenny, your two clubmen who were not selected this year by management along with Ryan Bell  will be fit and back in Derry colours in 2019.An injury free Danny Heavron would be a huge boost to the squad as would Ryan Bell.Will never forget his outstanding display in the Qualifiers against Mayo in Castlebar last year.

I heard rumours that two other leading players are considering going abroad next year.Let us hope that is not the case as we need all our best players available and selected more than ever in order to build a coherent winning momentum albeit in Division Four.

Hopefully Danny will be back and fit and Emmett deserves a chance also. It's hard to blame young lads from taking a break to go travelling but they need to be aware it's a short career also and they have to give it everything when they get the opportunity.

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« Reply #2079 on: October 19, 2018, 07:14:27 PM »
It looks like Gareth McKinless could be back for Derry too! Heard his suspension in the reserves was thrown out after an appeal.  Good deal for the county board. We will forget about all the kicking you do and sending offs you have and let  you play in a meaningless reserve championship final and you play for Derry next year. “Deal”

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« Reply #2080 on: October 19, 2018, 08:09:25 PM »
With the recent retirements I would like to see the following team starting against Tyrone in next year's championship.
                                 B McKinless
N Keenan                  B Rogers                K McKaigue
C McFaul                    C McKaigue            L McGoldrick
                     C McAtamney          P Cassidy
D Heavron                  E Bradley               N Toner
E Lynn                        Colm McGoldrick     N Loughlin

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« Reply #2081 on: October 19, 2018, 08:25:26 PM »
It looks like Gareth McKinless could be back for Derry too! Heard his suspension in the reserves was thrown out after an appeal.  Good deal for the county board. We will forget about all the kicking you do and sending offs you have and let  you play in a meaningless reserve championship final and you play for Derry next year. “Deal”

I wouldn’t say a reserve county final is meaningless! No county title easy won.

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« Reply #2082 on: October 19, 2018, 09:00:53 PM »
It looks like Gareth McKinless could be back for Derry too! Heard his suspension in the reserves was thrown out after an appeal.  Good deal for the county board. We will forget about all the kicking you do and sending offs you have and let  you play in a meaningless reserve championship final and you play for Derry next year. “Deal”

I wouldn’t say a reserve county final is meaningless! No county title easy won.

The very same man giving out to the CB for disrespecting the reserves recently.. And low and behold the man himself disrespects the reserve final.

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« Reply #2083 on: October 19, 2018, 09:15:24 PM »
It looks like Gareth McKinless could be back for Derry too! Heard his suspension in the reserves was thrown out after an appeal.  Good deal for the county board. We will forget about all the kicking you do and sending offs you have and let  you play in a meaningless reserve championship final and you play for Derry next year. “Deal”

I wouldn’t say a reserve county final is meaningless! No county title easy won.

Sorry I didn’t mean it was meaningless. To me the county board said that by letting mckinless off

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« Reply #2084 on: October 20, 2018, 09:13:14 AM »
It looks like Gareth McKinless could be back for Derry too! Heard his suspension in the reserves was thrown out after an appeal.  Good deal for the county board. We will forget about all the kicking you do and sending offs you have and let  you play in a meaningless reserve championship final and you play for Derry next year. “Deal”

I wouldn’t say a reserve county final is meaningless! No county title easy won.

Sorry I didn’t mean it was meaningless. To me the county board said that by letting mckinless off
I think he served his one match suspension missing the dungiven semi final