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Would you be in favour of an alternative championship for Div 3 and 4 with winners and runners up rejoining the other championship.

Yes
131 (52.2%)
No
102 (40.6%)
Undecided
18 (7.2%)

Total Members Voted: 251

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Re: Would you be in favour of a second tier?
« Reply #1245 on: November 01, 2019, 11:19:38 AM »
Get yourself elected as a Congress delegate and you can.
Or start with a motion at your Club AGM that the Uachtarán be directly elected by the membership.
I suspect you'll have a better chance of the forner ;D
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Re: Would you be in favour of a second tier?
« Reply #1246 on: November 27, 2019, 11:57:23 AM »
So the fixtures plans for next year has already shown that the Tier 2 final could be a standalone game at Croke Park.
That's record time for a u-turn even for the GAA.
Thought it was to be played before the All-Ireland final?  A festival of football promised.
As suspected, lets tick the box and get it out of the road so the top teams can get showcased.
Wanted.  Forwards to take frees.
Not fussy.  Any sort of ability will be considered

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Re: Would you be in favour of a second tier?
« Reply #1247 on: November 27, 2019, 12:42:44 PM »
It was never to be before the AI Final.
The odd person here and there suggested that but was never an official proposal.
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Re: Would you be in favour of a second tier?
« Reply #1248 on: November 27, 2019, 12:59:40 PM »
So the fixtures plans for next year has already shown that the Tier 2 final could be a standalone game at Croke Park.
That's record time for a u-turn even for the GAA.
Thought it was to be played before the All-Ireland final?  A festival of football promised.
As suspected, lets tick the box and get it out of the road so the top teams can get showcased.

Why would you even consider putting the tier 2 final before the AI final? Is the Joe McDonagh final played before the AI hurling?

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Re: Would you be in favour of a second tier?
« Reply #1249 on: November 30, 2019, 07:38:40 AM »
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/john-horan-favours-making-leagues-part-of-summer-championship-season-1.4099873

John Horan favours making leagues part of summer championship season
GAA president admits disappointment over Club Players’ Association’s withdrawal from fixture talks

 
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GAA president John Horan has indicated that he favours moving the national leagues into the summer, as part of the championship. He made the radical remarks during a press briefing in Abu Dhabi, which is hosting this year’s PwC All Stars trip.

The issue of championship reform will feature largely in the report of the Fixtures Calendar Review Task Force, which is due to be published next week.

“I personally would be very much in favour of one of the new proposals when they come out next week,” said Horan.

Asked what this was, he replied that the task force had one further meeting and that he wouldn’t comment before next week but he did elaborate on some of the ideas.

“There is the flip of the league from earlier in the year to the summer and then the creation of the four eights [rationalising the provincial structure]. They are some of the ideas that are likely to come onto the table. You know, maybe the league in the summer could be the answer.”

He also commented on the Club Players’ Association’s withdrawal from the task force just before its conclusion and the accompanying comments on what it saw as the likely outcome of the deliberations.

“I was somewhat disappointed that they actually withdrew. In fairness, I took some criticism [from within the GAA] for initially including them in the process but I was quite happy to do that; you know, it is disappointing. We can wait until next Wednesday when we are going to launch the actual report.”

The CPA accused the task force of being committed to preserving the status quo of the current intercounty football calendar rather than meaningful fixture reform that might benefit club players. Horan said that he believed there was a mood for radical change.


“Within that group there is. When you see the proposals when we have a media briefing next Wednesday, you will see. I think it’s a bit unfortunate some of the information from the group has been leaked into the public domain. That’s somewhat disloyal. But, we are where we are. The lads have worked hard. We are at it since June.”

He further said that the inclusion of the current championship format as an option, which was criticised by the CPA, had been intended to use the format which is on trial as a backstop rather than revert to the status quo ante from 2017.

“You have got to look at it in a context. We are in a trial phase at the moment, and when the three years lapse, at the end of the next championship in 2020, it’s either bring in a new proposal or revert back. That’s the way it works.

“In case some of these new ideas are not accepted you would have to then bring a proposal to the table to maybe continue where we are, rather than flip back to where we were three years ago, because I don’t think anyone would accept going back to where we were three years ago would be a good move.

“That’s why this kind of status quo element has come on the table.”
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Re: Would you be in favour of a second tier?
« Reply #1250 on: November 30, 2019, 09:16:03 AM »
Very well put by Horan. Very open-minded about all the options that will be produced.

He forgot one small thing though..........that there'll be a Tier 2 Championship regardless of what anyone else thinks.

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Re: Would you be in favour of a second tier?
« Reply #1251 on: November 30, 2019, 09:31:22 AM »
Passed 3 to 1 at the Special Congress ;)
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Re: Would you be in favour of a second tier?
« Reply #1252 on: February 19, 2020, 08:04:40 AM »
Westmeath chairman Billy Foley got his view across on the match day programme on Saturday. Food for thought there.



The line about when the controversy ends they will lose interest encapsulates everything that is wrong with this debate and could equally be applied to the situation on here. Keyboard warriors bandwaggoning onto a cause and championing it until they see achieve 'success' for their 1 eyed point of view. Then move on to the next "issue".

It has nearly got to the stage where the GAA is being run by twitter.

Not nice to see a whiff of sectarianism off a county chairman.