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Re: Fire in tower block in London.
« Reply #120 on: June 29, 2017, 01:53:09 PM »
The tories have lost the media so anything will be used against them and magnified.

They haven't lost their GAA board lackey though.

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« Reply #121 on: June 14, 2018, 09:41:54 PM »
One year, today.
While there is much about the episode that is disgraceful, the enquiry seems a reasonable effort so far. Let's hope so.
https://www.grenfelltowerinquiry.org.uk/evidence
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« Reply #122 on: June 15, 2018, 09:27:51 AM »
Corbyn joined the silent march to remember the tragedy. Teresa May was out for dinner with elite bankers.


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« Reply #124 on: November 05, 2019, 11:56:20 AM »
He is a horrendous individual. His comments on concentration camps weren't good either.

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« Reply #125 on: November 05, 2019, 12:47:09 PM »
What a b**tard

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/jacob-reesmogg-sparks-fury-by-saying-grenfell-residents-should-have-used-common-sense-and-fled-tower-a4278606.html

Should the residents not have used common sense? He’s still a bastard but I have to agree with him on this.

The Fire Brigade used to tell us to ‘Get Out, Get The Fire Brigade Out & Stay Out’.

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« Reply #126 on: November 05, 2019, 01:12:30 PM »
What a b**tard

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/jacob-reesmogg-sparks-fury-by-saying-grenfell-residents-should-have-used-common-sense-and-fled-tower-a4278606.html

Should the residents not have used common sense? He’s still a b**tard but I have to agree with him on this.

The Fire Brigade used to tell us to ‘Get Out, Get The Fire Brigade Out & Stay Out’.

It's a different strategy for a tower block like that all previous incidents would have been wait for help but given the cladding and the fact it accelerated the fire and helped spread it the process was obviously flawed and resulted in deaths.

The Fire Brigade weren't to know this would happen but by all accounts the higher ups waited to late to change the strategy which resulted in deaths. . . ultimately the council and its contractors are the main sources of blame though!

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« Reply #127 on: November 05, 2019, 03:24:23 PM »
What a b**tard

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/jacob-reesmogg-sparks-fury-by-saying-grenfell-residents-should-have-used-common-sense-and-fled-tower-a4278606.html

Should the residents not have used common sense? He’s still a b**tard but I have to agree with him on this.

The Fire Brigade used to tell us to ‘Get Out, Get The Fire Brigade Out & Stay Out’.
'Common sense' could have lead to a stampeade and blocked all access from the staircores . There is a reason why 'stay put' advice was gicen on the first instance. I think it is disguisting the way the Fire Servcie are being hung out to dry on this when there are so many faults on so many companies/authorities

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« Reply #128 on: November 06, 2019, 12:54:44 PM »
What a b**tard

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/jacob-reesmogg-sparks-fury-by-saying-grenfell-residents-should-have-used-common-sense-and-fled-tower-a4278606.html

Should the residents not have used common sense? He’s still a b**tard but I have to agree with him on this.

The Fire Brigade used to tell us to ‘Get Out, Get The Fire Brigade Out & Stay Out’.
They were supposed to be self contained units. With a house fire you don't typically need to evacuate every house in the street unless they have all been joined up with flammable cladding to spread the fire from one to the next.

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« Reply #129 on: November 06, 2019, 01:12:13 PM »
What a b**tard

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/jacob-reesmogg-sparks-fury-by-saying-grenfell-residents-should-have-used-common-sense-and-fled-tower-a4278606.html

Should the residents not have used common sense? He’s still a b**tard but I have to agree with him on this.

The Fire Brigade used to tell us to ‘Get Out, Get The Fire Brigade Out & Stay Out’.
'Common sense' could have lead to a stampeade and blocked all access from the staircores . There is a reason why 'stay put' advice was gicen on the first instance. I think it is disguisting the way the Fire Servcie are being hung out to dry on this when there are so many faults on so many companies/authorities
They aren't being hung out to dry. The first thing they have looked at is the night in question which obviously covers the response of the emergency services. They'll get to the root cause later. If everyone says "oh weren't the firemen brave" without critically analysing their response, lessons are not learned.

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« Reply #130 on: November 06, 2019, 01:18:35 PM »
Whichever goons told the victims to stay put as an inferno raged around them fully deserve to be hung out to dry, and worse.

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« Reply #131 on: November 06, 2019, 01:36:55 PM »
Whichever goons told the victims to stay put as an inferno raged around them fully deserve to be hung out to dry, and worse.
That is the usual advice except LFB didn't have long ladder enough to make that advice fiasable.  Also not the correct advice when the tower is clad in tinder.     FAIL on planning.
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« Reply #132 on: November 06, 2019, 01:49:01 PM »
Whichever goons told the victims to stay put as an inferno raged around them fully deserve to be hung out to dry, and worse.
Whichever goons told the victims to stay put as an inferno raged around them fully deserve to be hung out to dry, and worse.
That is the usual advice except LFB didn't have long ladder enough to make that advice fiasable.  Also not the correct advice when the tower is clad in tinder.     FAIL on planning.

With hindsight and now knowing that the building was clad in an equivalent to firelighters I think LFB would certainly do things differently.

If the cladding had of been made from a fire retardant rather than an accelerant then most if not all of the residents of Grenfell would have been fine with the stay put policy.

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« Reply #133 on: November 06, 2019, 01:59:18 PM »
What a b**tard

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/jacob-reesmogg-sparks-fury-by-saying-grenfell-residents-should-have-used-common-sense-and-fled-tower-a4278606.html

Should the residents not have used common sense? He’s still a b**tard but I have to agree with him on this.

The Fire Brigade used to tell us to ‘Get Out, Get The Fire Brigade Out & Stay Out’.

It is actually government policy to stay put and they would have been OK had it not been for the refurb of the tower, there had been fires in the past that were contained.