Derry Club Football & Hurling original

[JoG2]

Gutted. The kickouts were probably the difference. Some effort

Unreal. We're setting up well for next season.

Could not agree more. Crazy year opposition / injury wise. Need to dissect the year with the head and not the heart. The last two games have shown there's fire in the belly of this squad. New additions all positive, few more to be added. Strength and depth. Roll on '26

I'll turn this post into a Country n Western song in the next day or two.

[Wildweasel74]

Tally only plus to stay on, is there no high profile good manager out there. His record this year is shocking. Derry should beat Galway twice, Donegal and Kerry in the league but we didn't. I don't think he's near it to be honest. Higgins should been changed with Glass after 10mins, POB sheer height was winning 3/4 clean balls. Goalkeeper issue all on him.And maybe explain tactically, what Derry were at on the Dublin Kickout.Maybe ask Down supporters what they think of him!

[OakLeaf]

Tally only plus to stay on, is there no high profile good manager out there. His record this year is shocking. Derry should beat Galway twice, Donegal and Kerry in the league but we didn't. I don't think he's near it to be honest. Higgins should been changed with Glass after 10mins, POB sheer height was winning 3/4 clean balls. Goalkeeper issue all on him.And maybe explain tactically, what Derry were at on the Dublin Kickout.Maybe ask Down supporters what they think of him!

Id agree from a purely technical standpoint. He's clearly more of a coach than a manager, but at the same time he took on a bit of a poisoned chalice when nobody else would. I had my doubts that he'd get this group of players committed again, given all that's gone on. I think he's done that at least, so maybe some better managers would consider the job now, whereas they wouldn't have before. Ideally we'd get a good manager in and keep Tally on as coach. I can't see it happening next year though.

[Ryan O]

Tally only plus to stay on, is there no high profile good manager out there. His record this year is shocking. Derry should beat Galway twice, Donegal and Kerry in the league but we didn't. I don't think he's near it to be honest. Higgins should been changed with Glass after 10mins, POB sheer height was winning 3/4 clean balls. Goalkeeper issue all on him.And maybe explain tactically, what Derry were at on the Dublin Kickout.Maybe ask Down supporters what they think of him!

Id agree from a purely technical standpoint. He's clearly more of a coach than a manager, but at the same time he took on a bit of a poisoned chalice when nobody else would. I had my doubts that he'd get this group of players committed again, given all that's gone on. I think he's done that at least, so maybe some better managers would consider the job now, whereas they wouldn't have before. Ideally we'd get a good manager in and keep Tally on as coach. I can't see it happening next year though.

Can't see it happening, he's never going to take a step back to coaching with the same group. We need a forwards coach. Sone of the movement at times yesterday was like something would see in average minor game. Once we get to opposition 45 it just becomes pedestrian.
Ethan and Rogers and at stages CD are the only 3 men we have to go at teams.

The first ball Murray got it was very obvious he had about 4/5 yards of pace on his marker. That was the last ball he got.surely someone along the sideline had to have thought lets isolate him and get more of a free run.

Shane kicked 9 points first half and 1 in second, they've obviously changed up to shut him down. When this happens Dublin they pull CON  out round the middle in playmaker role get him more space and then drift him back in. Derrys game plan seemed incapable of doing something like this.

[zapped]

Tally only plus to stay on, is there no high profile good manager out there. His record this year is shocking. Derry should beat Galway twice, Donegal and Kerry in the league but we didn't. I don't think he's near it to be honest. Higgins should been changed with Glass after 10mins, POB sheer height was winning 3/4 clean balls. Goalkeeper issue all on him.And maybe explain tactically, what Derry were at on the Dublin Kickout.Maybe ask Down supporters what they think of him!

Id agree from a purely technical standpoint. He's clearly more of a coach than a manager, but at the same time he took on a bit of a poisoned chalice when nobody else would. I had my doubts that he'd get this group of players committed again, given all that's gone on. I think he's done that at least, so maybe some better managers would consider the job now, whereas they wouldn't have before. Ideally we'd get a good manager in and keep Tally on as coach. I can't see it happening next year though.

Can't see it happening, he's never going to take a step back to coaching with the same group. We need a forwards coach. Sone of the movement at times yesterday was like something would see in average minor game. Once we get to opposition 45 it just becomes pedestrian.
Ethan and Rogers and at stages CD are the only 3 men we have to go at teams.

The first ball Murray got it was very obvious he had about 4/5 yards of pace on his marker. That was the last ball he got.surely someone along the sideline had to have thought lets isolate him and get more of a free run.

Shane kicked 9 points first half and 1 in second, they've obviously changed up to shut him down. When this happens Dublin they pull CON  out round the middle in playmaker role get him more space and then drift him back in. Derrys game plan seemed incapable of doing something like this.

7 of those first half points from Shane came from frees. He spent most of the day around the middle and towards the Dublin 40m line. The inside line was regularly changing. Your comment makes it seem he was standing on the edge of the square all day

[Interstellar]

As well as strengthening on the field we need strengthening on the sideline. As some have previously suggested an approach to Ciaran Meenagh as tactical coach would surely be acceptable to all if he was interested.

[5times5times]

As well as strengthening on the field we need strengthening on the sideline. As some have previously suggested an approach to Ciaran Meenagh as tactical coach would surely be acceptable to all if he was interested.

After his antics in armagh today, would you want him anywhere near it? Looper

[p3427977]

As well as strengthening on the field we need strengthening on the sideline. As some have previously suggested an approach to Ciaran Meenagh as tactical coach would surely be acceptable to all if he was interested.

After his antics in armagh today, would you want him anywhere near it? Looper

What did he do?

[STREET FIGHTER]

As well as strengthening on the field we need strengthening on the sideline. As some have previously suggested an approach to Ciaran Meenagh as tactical coach would surely be acceptable to all if he was interested.

After his antics in armagh today, would you want him anywhere near it? Looper

What did he do?

Yeah...what did he do?? 🤔

[Topmarks]

That's it over for another year. Disappointing all round tbh. No wins in league and championship and whatever way you dress it up is not good enough. The only positive was the performances did improve the last couple of games but still some glaring issues noteable kickouts.

Tally will likely get another year but there needs to be a proper review held into what went wrong. I would be looking to improve the backroom team and a Gilligan or Meenagh may be options.

In terms of players he would get a chance to attend the club championship and see the lay of the land. Be interesting to see if anyone steps up. I honestly don't think we're a million miles away but finding a forward or 2 would be the order of the day and getting a few of the u20s game time. Hoping Oisin McWilliams can get back, Eamon young needs fast tracked and a lottery win would be Callum Brown.

[93-DY-SAM]

That's it over for another year. Disappointing all round tbh. No wins in league and championship and whatever way you dress it up is not good enough. The only positive was the performances did improve the last couple of games but still some glaring issues noteable kickouts.

Tally will likely get another year but there needs to be a proper review held into what went wrong. I would be looking to improve the backroom team and a Gilligan or Meenagh may be options.

In terms of players he would get a chance to attend the club championship and see the lay of the land. Be interesting to see if anyone steps up. I honestly don't think we're a million miles away but finding a forward or 2 would be the order of the day and getting a few of the u20s game time. Hoping Oisin McWilliams can get back, Eamon young needs fast tracked and a lottery win would be Callum Brown.

Even a blind man on a galloping horse can see our biggest shortcoming - our kickouts. We struggled to get our hands on the ball in the first 5 mins of both halves at the weekend, especially from our own kickouts. Dublin rattled 7 or 8 points off in those 2 5-minute spells. Was a similar story in the last 10 mins of the Galway game, and ultimately, we are out of the Championship because of it. Had we got our hands on the ball and worked it into young Murray in the last two games, he'd have done damage.


In saying that, it is, for me, still a positive ending to what had started as a very bleak outlook. Good to see Clucky back. A big ask for anyone to come in from that amount of time off and make a big impact. If we can get the goalkeeper position nailed down and have some consistency with that, it's the obvious starting point. A fully fit Clucky, McKinless and a few of the U-20s coming through, I think we'll be a good place.
 

[tbrick18]

A really disappointing exit after a serious shift in the last 2 games in particular.
I think we got it wrong tactically - the zonal defending left Dublin in acres of space for their own kickouts on a very small pitch. That was their platform for scores - especially in the early stages of each half. On a pitch that size we should have been pushing up man-2-man which would have made it much more difficult for Dublin. The most worrying part is that management didn't address that throughout the game.
No faulting the effort, though some players didn't hit their peak I felt. To be fair to McKinless, he improved since the Galway game and made 1 excellent save. His kickouts are not good enough though for county football imo. Losing Lynch again was a serious blow.

I think giving Rogers the man marking job was a mistake too - best defence is attack and all that. We were a bit toothless going forward at times without his runs. But, he did a decent job on Con and maybe we'd have conceded goals if not for that.

The positives were that we put up a fight, we have improved over the previous 2 games in particular and with all our players back we can challenge the top teams. Seeing clucky return is a big plus point. We've also blooded quite a few players through necessity and that will stand us well in the future.
However, I think we need to make a change to management backroom. Tally deserves another crack at it, but needs tactical support from within his managerial team. Meenagh would be a great option. Gilligan too.
I don't think very many teams would have coped any better than us with the sheer volume of injuries we had to key players and the management issues, all compounded by a change in rules requiring a complete re-think to how we should play. So it's unfair to be too harsh on Tally.
He made a few mistakes over the year - but if we hadn't got so many injuries, perhaps he wouldn't have made so many. The GK issue being the highlight.

Next year will hopefully be more settled. Div2 is actually a good place to bring the new additions on a bit further than this year and the quality will still be high in Div2. We'll have to prioritise promotion I think.

Dublin will be hard to beat - I just think they are a bit short on quality to win the AI this year.

[Derry Man]

A really disappointing exit after a serious shift in the last 2 games in particular.
I think we got it wrong tactically - the zonal defending left Dublin in acres of space for their own kickouts on a very small pitch. That was their platform for scores - especially in the early stages of each half. On a pitch that size we should have been pushing up man-2-man which would have made it much more difficult for Dublin. The most worrying part is that management didn't address that throughout the game.
No faulting the effort, though some players didn't hit their peak I felt. To be fair to McKinless, he improved since the Galway game and made 1 excellent save. His kickouts are not good enough though for county football imo. Losing Lynch again was a serious blow.

I think giving Rogers the man marking job was a mistake too - best defence is attack and all that. We were a bit toothless going forward at times without his runs. But, he did a decent job on Con and maybe we'd have conceded goals if not for that.

The positives were that we put up a fight, we have improved over the previous 2 games in particular and with all our players back we can challenge the top teams. Seeing clucky return is a big plus point. We've also blooded quite a few players through necessity and that will stand us well in the future.
However, I think we need to make a change to management backroom. Tally deserves another crack at it, but needs tactical support from within his managerial team. Meenagh would be a great option. Gilligan too.
I don't think very many teams would have coped any better than us with the sheer volume of injuries we had to key players and the management issues, all compounded by a change in rules requiring a complete re-think to how we should play. So it's unfair to be too harsh on Tally.
He made a few mistakes over the year - but if we hadn't got so many injuries, perhaps he wouldn't have made so many. The GK issue being the highlight.

Next year will hopefully be more settled. Div2 is actually a good place to bring the new additions on a bit further than this year and the quality will still be high in Div2. We'll have to prioritise promotion I think.

Dublin will be hard to beat - I just think they are a bit short on quality to win the AI this year.

Nobody in Intercounty football presses man to man on Kickouts for good reason.

[Wildweasel74]

Armagh do it all the time, so not sure why u think teams don't.

[jb77]

Hope Derry can get their act together for the club championship, interviews, team lists, scores and abit of general promotion. Tyrone puts them to shame