Derry Club Football & Hurling original

[seanyb]

What's McKinless fitness like? Is he carrying an injury?

Won't see him in a Derry jersey this year.

Why

yeah, why not?

[p3427977]

What's McKinless fitness like? Is he carrying an injury?

Won't see him in a Derry jersey this year.

Why

yeah, why not?

He had his leg strapped up yesterday didn't he but played the full game.

[toby47]

What's McKinless fitness like? Is he carrying an injury?

Won't see him in a Derry jersey this year.

Why

Knee injury, apparently

[tbrick18]

Don't like Tally giving out about the 12v11 thing Lynch is more than capable of doing it for us yet we just didn't plan for it.

Not sure the new rules will suit us Lynch's kickouts have too high a trajectory and our midfield isn't strong enough aerially to win the ball we'll need.

Agreed. It worries me that Tally didn't seem to think this was going to be a tactic before this game.
If he doesn't adapt to what he learned from this game then we have issues, but for now we have to give him time to adapt to the new rules and get us sharper.

Lynch is fit enough lads, and he's fast enough. Probably one of the best showstoppers in the game and his kickouts are good, though sometimes a little slow.
We don't have a better gk option that I know of.

We'd a lot of sloppy passes and dropped ball, we're 2nd to break balls, and on more than one occasion struggled to vend down far enough to pick a ball up. So fitness needs to improve too, but that will come.

Lynch is a top class keeper. He must've been under instructions not to go forward because he's very strong on the ball in the other half. Tyrone getting morgan forward to provide an extra man gave derry lots of problems and it's surprising we didn't do the same until it was much too late.

Did you watch any Derry games last year? Lynch caught up the field numerous times resulting in game changing goals not capable of getting back.

I also watched him in Ulster finals, AI semi final and league finals coming out every time and doing well. In particular the 2023 AI semi v Kerry and the 2023 Ulster championship game were we hammered Monaghan he was involved in every play.

Last year we gave away goals from the tactic but if Tyrone defenders give the ball away with a lateral pass half way up the pitch and Morgan is up there they will do the same thing.

We did it when it was 15 v 14. It makes even more sense to it now when it's 12 v 11.

Agreed on most of this.
Last year was slightly different though, he was being pushed too far forward on kickouts and was just bypassed for most of those goals. That was purely a management decision that backfired and was never addressed.
We struggled to win the long kickouts last year in MF, and we are still struggling based on the evidence on Sat night.
Our main priority is to sort out that MF sector, with more posession around the middle we can use the goal keeper more to support attack.

[NotedObserver]

Don't like Tally giving out about the 12v11 thing Lynch is more than capable of doing it for us yet we just didn't plan for it.

Not sure the new rules will suit us Lynch's kickouts have too high a trajectory and our midfield isn't strong enough aerially to win the ball we'll need.

Agreed. It worries me that Tally didn't seem to think this was going to be a tactic before this game.
If he doesn't adapt to what he learned from this game then we have issues, but for now we have to give him time to adapt to the new rules and get us sharper.

Lynch is fit enough lads, and he's fast enough. Probably one of the best showstoppers in the game and his kickouts are good, though sometimes a little slow.
We don't have a better gk option that I know of.

We'd a lot of sloppy passes and dropped ball, we're 2nd to break balls, and on more than one occasion struggled to vend down far enough to pick a ball up. So fitness needs to improve too, but that will come.

Lynch is a top class keeper. He must've been under instructions not to go forward because he's very strong on the ball in the other half. Tyrone getting morgan forward to provide an extra man gave derry lots of problems and it's surprising we didn't do the same until it was much too late.

Did you watch any Derry games last year? Lynch caught up the field numerous times resulting in game changing goals not capable of getting back.

I also watched him in Ulster finals, AI semi final and league finals coming out every time and doing well. In particular the 2023 AI semi v Kerry and the 2023 Ulster championship game were we hammered Monaghan he was involved in every play.

Last year we gave away goals from the tactic but if Tyrone defenders give the ball away with a lateral pass half way up the pitch and Morgan is up there they will do the same thing.

We did it when it was 15 v 14. It makes even more sense to it now when it's 12 v 11.

Agreed on most of this.
Last year was slightly different though, he was being pushed too far forward on kickouts and was just bypassed for most of those goals. That was purely a management decision that backfired and was never addressed.
We struggled to win the long kickouts last year in MF, and we are still struggling based on the evidence on Sat night.
Our main priority is to sort out that MF sector, with more posession around the middle we can use the goal keeper more to support attack.

Hence using Tohill in midfield. How has he been at club level? Tough evening with Kennedy but will learn from it

[tbrick18]

Don't like Tally giving out about the 12v11 thing Lynch is more than capable of doing it for us yet we just didn't plan for it.

Not sure the new rules will suit us Lynch's kickouts have too high a trajectory and our midfield isn't strong enough aerially to win the ball we'll need.

Agreed. It worries me that Tally didn't seem to think this was going to be a tactic before this game.
If he doesn't adapt to what he learned from this game then we have issues, but for now we have to give him time to adapt to the new rules and get us sharper.

Lynch is fit enough lads, and he's fast enough. Probably one of the best showstoppers in the game and his kickouts are good, though sometimes a little slow.
We don't have a better gk option that I know of.

We'd a lot of sloppy passes and dropped ball, we're 2nd to break balls, and on more than one occasion struggled to vend down far enough to pick a ball up. So fitness needs to improve too, but that will come.

Lynch is a top class keeper. He must've been under instructions not to go forward because he's very strong on the ball in the other half. Tyrone getting morgan forward to provide an extra man gave derry lots of problems and it's surprising we didn't do the same until it was much too late.

Did you watch any Derry games last year? Lynch caught up the field numerous times resulting in game changing goals not capable of getting back.

I also watched him in Ulster finals, AI semi final and league finals coming out every time and doing well. In particular the 2023 AI semi v Kerry and the 2023 Ulster championship game were we hammered Monaghan he was involved in every play.

Last year we gave away goals from the tactic but if Tyrone defenders give the ball away with a lateral pass half way up the pitch and Morgan is up there they will do the same thing.

We did it when it was 15 v 14. It makes even more sense to it now when it's 12 v 11.

Agreed on most of this.
Last year was slightly different though, he was being pushed too far forward on kickouts and was just bypassed for most of those goals. That was purely a management decision that backfired and was never addressed.
We struggled to win the long kickouts last year in MF, and we are still struggling based on the evidence on Sat night.
Our main priority is to sort out that MF sector, with more posession around the middle we can use the goal keeper more to support attack.

Hence using Tohill in midfield. How has he been at club level? Tough evening with Kennedy but will learn from it

Tohill didn't do much wrong - looks like his instructions were to break ball and lay it off, which he did to an extent. There were a few times I thought he could have caught it but instead stuck the fist to it. I'd say we lost 80% of the loose ball in midfield.
I just dont think you can carry a player if that's their only role AND the players around them are not picking up the breaks. He didn't offer much going forward, made a few runs. And defensively he was too loose too. Would he make a better half forward? No idea if he can shoot, but could attack kickouts from there and potentially get forward more.

In terms of good things, I thought Rogers was really good. Glass in spells was really good.
McEvoy had a good game too. Gilmore and Baker struggled a bit though and even Conor Doherty wasn't at his usual standard.

Hopefully we get McKinless, McCloskey, Loughlin and McGrogan back and in decent form before the end of the league, because we'd be a different prospect with them all there and fit.

Early days though so we should give them the chance to get it right if that's the tactic they are going with.

[harryR]

What's McKinless fitness like? Is he carrying an injury?

Won't see him in a Derry jersey this year.

Why

Knee injury, apparently

Heard he hurt the knee skiing over Christmas, serious going to get through a full game with a wrecked knee. Massive loss for Derry if true.

[toby47]

What's McKinless fitness like? Is he carrying an injury?

Won't see him in a Derry jersey this year.

Why

Knee injury, apparently

Heard he hurt the knee skiing over Christmas, serious going to get through a full game with a wrecked knee. Massive loss for Derry if true.

Yeah, an operation needed & his season over.

[Splash]

Derry host Down in the hurling at Owenbeg this weekend.

Down performed well to come out victorious over Kildare last week, and will be a tough game for Derry.

Derry got over the line against Tyrone, but will need to do everything right if they want a repeat against the Ardsmen.

If I was McGarvey, this is the game I would be targeting for a big shock win. Definitely very doable.

Last time they met in the league Derry held Down to a draw in Ballycran.

Should be a good Ulster Derby.

[Ryan O]

Derry host Down in the hurling at Owenbeg this weekend.

Down performed well to come out victorious over Kildare last week, and will be a tough game for Derry.

Derry got over the line against Tyrone, but will need to do everything right if they want a repeat against the Ardsmen.

If I was McGarvey, this is the game I would be targeting for a big shock win. Definitely very doable.

Last time they met in the league Derry held Down to a draw in Ballycran.

Should be a good Ulster Derby.

Having went to Omagh last week early with the idea of catching the hurling I don't think I've ever sat through a worse game. Pitch was in poor condition but the quality of both teams was shockingly poor.
I dare say there are at least 4 club teams in Ulster who would easily beat both counties.I know Derry are missing a couple Slaughneil duel players but surely Derry hurling has more options than that? Chrissy Mc Kaigue now retired could coast onto Derry hurling team and stay there for at least a couple of seasons.

[themania1]

Neill McNicholl in at GK tommorow, interesting to see how that goes. Looking at the bench, our squad depth is very poor with nearly all our subs being decent club footballers with no county experience

[jb77]

McFaul injured? Where's he gone

[Wildweasel74]

Have to blood them stime, rather get them well blooded through the league and not be found short again, Later in the year. Seems to be a real lack of new forward options in the county.

[roadsidefox]

Have to blood them stime, rather get them well blooded through the league and not be found short agai. Later in the year. Seems to be a real lack of new forward options in the county.

Reality is that we have a lot of players tied up in the U20s. Ruairi Forbes, Danny McDermott etc.

Fingers crossed they go the distance with the 20's, but it means they wouldn't be available until May.

Remember also that the season only starts in May, so plenty of time yet.

[screenexile]

McFaul injured? Where's he gone

Hamstring I heard