Derry Club Football & Hurling original

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Josey Wales

Quote from: Leaveherlong on July 23, 2019, 02:25:54 PM
In fairness to Donnelly this is just a speculative story, with no direct quotes or sources. He can't be held responsible for this type of lazy journalism. If you read the article again, it could easily have been written by one man sitting in his kitchen under pressure to come up with something to fill part of the back page. Though Mountain Gael makes an important point - those appointing the next Derry manager need to show some ambition. The County is desperately in need of some inspiration. Unfortunately there is no evidence the current County Board, with all the same faces that have been there for years, are able to convince some of the top managers to takeover at Derry. So, in the end, a mediocre set up gets a mediocre manager.

To show ambition you need money.  The county board has neither.  It will be a good club manager who wont cost a fortune and wont demand a backroom team where you need to hire an extra bus to transport to matches.

Glenman93

Malachy's last backroom team had 21 in it. Jim McGuinness had 20.

Rawhide

#2927
Quote from: Keyser soze on July 23, 2019, 11:27:10 AM
A man that got beat by 13 points in his most recent championshp encounter is the front runner for the Sejnior job, you just could not make this shit up.

Any chance of you applying context i.e. Ben Mc Carron played injured had to come off after the only time he kicked the ball with his hammy. Two McWilliams injured with Oisin being introduced clearly injured. Our best forward Paul Cassidy going off injured after 10 minutes where he was destroying the Tyrone defence. Any team who looses their best players will get well beaten, especially underage football, the way your talking you would think he had a full deck to select from ffs.
cccc is a true supporter lol

Squareball71

Quote from: Leaveherlong on July 23, 2019, 02:25:54 PM
In fairness to Donnelly this is just a speculative story, with no direct quotes or sources. He can't be held responsible for this type of lazy journalism. If you read the article again, it could easily have been written by one man sitting in his kitchen under pressure to come up with something to fill part of the back page. Though Mountain Gael makes an important point - those appointing the next Derry manager need to show some ambition. The County is desperately in need of some inspiration. Unfortunately there is no evidence the current County Board, with all the same faces that have been there for years, are able to convince some of the top managers to takeover at Derry. So, in the end, a mediocre set up gets a mediocre manager.

Unfortunately it is the clubs that vote in these faces.

Real Talk

Quote from: Squareball71 on July 23, 2019, 11:06:27 PM
Quote from: Leaveherlong on July 23, 2019, 02:25:54 PM
In fairness to Donnelly this is just a speculative story, with no direct quotes or sources. He can't be held responsible for this type of lazy journalism. If you read the article again, it could easily have been written by one man sitting in his kitchen under pressure to come up with something to fill part of the back page. Though Mountain Gael makes an important point - those appointing the next Derry manager need to show some ambition. The County is desperately in need of some inspiration. Unfortunately there is no evidence the current County Board, with all the same faces that have been there for years, are able to convince some of the top managers to takeover at Derry. So, in the end, a mediocre set up gets a mediocre manager.

Unfortunately it is the clubs that vote in these faces.

There are a lot of very good people on the County Board who are giving many voluntary hours and its hardly fair to lambast them like this.  The Clubs are not nominating people because the Clubs don't want  to loose their most dedicated people.... in general all over Ireland there is a shortage of volunteers.  This year has saw a few changes ( people that haven't been there for years at all ......and you have the audacity to write about lazy journalism !!!!! )

Wildweasel74

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Derry have won 2 ulsters in the past 32yrs. I said there is a serious problem that hasnt been addressed for many years. We see happy enough to put out a team and thats it.Who gives a shit about winning; obviously not Derry.Why has only 1 man from outside the county got the Derry job in that time. Our current record of inhouse club managers getting the county job simply doesnt work. We never went after any previous all- ireland winning managers once they left their posts as possible Derry manager. Who decided on the county board that Derry need a 2nd county pitch; about time some responsibility took for that debacle. Even counties with min pick like Monaghan got their act together.

Estimator

So O'Rourke has ruled himself out.
Which leaves (according to the Irish News):
Mickey Donnelly
Liam Bradley
Johnny McBride
Paul McIver
Mickey Moran
Tony McEntee

Although reading the article it looks like Bradley, Moran and McEntee are already non-starters.
Ulster League Champions 2009

toby47

Lavey & Dungiven both conceding u16 league games according to the Derry website. What's the story there?

shawshank

Quote from: toby47 on July 26, 2019, 09:16:43 AM
Lavey & Dungiven both conceding u16 league games according to the Derry website. What's the story there?

Lavey typically don't play they unless they have more or less a full team, who were they to play?

toby47

Quote from: shawshank on July 26, 2019, 10:50:32 AM
Quote from: toby47 on July 26, 2019, 09:16:43 AM
Lavey & Dungiven both conceding u16 league games according to the Derry website. What's the story there?

Lavey typically don't play they unless they have more or less a full team, who were they to play?

Down to play Glen

oakleaflad

Quote from: toby47 on July 26, 2019, 11:10:49 AM
Quote from: shawshank on July 26, 2019, 10:50:32 AM
Quote from: toby47 on July 26, 2019, 09:16:43 AM
Lavey & Dungiven both conceding u16 league games according to the Derry website. What's the story there?

Lavey typically don’t play they unless they have more or less a full team, who were they to play?

Down to play Glen
U16 leagues haven't started yet for A and B. These were group games to decide if you end up in A1 or A2 league I believe. That, coupled with holidays, could lead to a conceded game or two, especially if you already had an idea of which league you'd end up in.

toby47

Quote from: oakleaflad on July 26, 2019, 12:27:03 PM
Quote from: toby47 on July 26, 2019, 11:10:49 AM
Quote from: shawshank on July 26, 2019, 10:50:32 AM
Quote from: toby47 on July 26, 2019, 09:16:43 AM
Lavey & Dungiven both conceding u16 league games according to the Derry website. What's the story there?

Lavey typically don't play they unless they have more or less a full team, who were they to play?

Down to play Glen
U16 leagues haven't started yet for A and B. These were group games to decide if you end up in A1 or A2 league I believe. That, coupled with holidays, could lead to a conceded game or two, especially if you already had an idea of which league you'd end up in.

They are still classified as league games

Squareball71

Quote from: Real Talk on July 23, 2019, 11:55:54 PM
Quote from: Squareball71 on July 23, 2019, 11:06:27 PM
Quote from: Leaveherlong on July 23, 2019, 02:25:54 PM
In fairness to Donnelly this is just a speculative story, with no direct quotes or sources. He can't be held responsible for this type of lazy journalism. If you read the article again, it could easily have been written by one man sitting in his kitchen under pressure to come up with something to fill part of the back page. Though Mountain Gael makes an important point - those appointing the next Derry manager need to show some ambition. The County is desperately in need of some inspiration. Unfortunately there is no evidence the current County Board, with all the same faces that have been there for years, are able to convince some of the top managers to takeover at Derry. So, in the end, a mediocre set up gets a mediocre manager.

Unfortunately it is the clubs that vote in these faces.

There are a lot of very good people on the County Board who are giving many voluntary hours and its hardly fair to lambast them like this.  The Clubs are not nominating people because the Clubs don't want  to loose their most dedicated people.... in general all over Ireland there is a shortage of volunteers.  This year has saw a few changes ( people that haven't been there for years at all ......and you have the audacity to write about lazy journalism !!!!! )

Clubs do nominate people. Other people were nominated last year and probably will be next year but I don't imagine much will change. 2 new names last year, one enforced from the 5 year rule for a new secretary and one for the reintroduced assistant secretary role although I stand corrected.
As it is the clubs, from their own club and committee instruction that vote at convention there should be no reason for anyone to complain once they are voted in.

Josey Wales

Quote from: Squareball71 on July 27, 2019, 11:14:38 PM
Quote from: Real Talk on July 23, 2019, 11:55:54 PM
Quote from: Squareball71 on July 23, 2019, 11:06:27 PM
Quote from: Leaveherlong on July 23, 2019, 02:25:54 PM
In fairness to Donnelly this is just a speculative story, with no direct quotes or sources. He can't be held responsible for this type of lazy journalism. If you read the article again, it could easily have been written by one man sitting in his kitchen under pressure to come up with something to fill part of the back page. Though Mountain Gael makes an important point - those appointing the next Derry manager need to show some ambition. The County is desperately in need of some inspiration. Unfortunately there is no evidence the current County Board, with all the same faces that have been there for years, are able to convince some of the top managers to takeover at Derry. So, in the end, a mediocre set up gets a mediocre manager.

Unfortunately it is the clubs that vote in these faces.

There are a lot of very good people on the County Board who are giving many voluntary hours and its hardly fair to lambast them like this.  The Clubs are not nominating people because the Clubs don't want  to loose their most dedicated people.... in general all over Ireland there is a shortage of volunteers.  This year has saw a few changes ( people that haven't been there for years at all ......and you have the audacity to write about lazy journalism !!!!! )

Clubs do nominate people. Other people were nominated last year and probably will be next year but I don't imagine much will change. 2 new names last year, one enforced from the 5 year rule for a new secretary and one for the reintroduced assistant secretary role although I stand corrected.
As it is the clubs, from their own club and committee instruction that vote at convention there should be no reason for anyone to complain once they are voted in.

What happens if a county delegate goes to congress and votes against the way clubs have instructed him to?

petermce

I think it is sad to see that 4 games have been conceded in Division 2 in the last 2 weeks. Has the break meant that players in these teams have lost interest or why have they had to concede?