Derry Club Football & Hurling original

[TheImpactCode]

Does anybody actually know what Chris Collins and Brian McIvor's director of games directives are?

[sam03/05]

As an outsider looking in- The problem that Derry have is the untapped potential they have in the City.
They have almost 100,000 people (mostly nationalist) and that's huge numbers that they could get players from. (If they really pushed it).
If they were to put serious money into coaching in the city - the schools / primary schools clubs etc - say maybe 10/15 full time coaches just in the city. In 8/10 years time they would have massive rewards - as the potential there is massive.
However there is no desire within the county to do that/ they would prefer to spend money on other things./ complain about Celtic Park and make excuses that it's a soccer town. (Things like that can be changed) -   As a Tyrone man I say long may it continue, but to me it's a pretty obvious solution as it could increase their player pool massively in the future.

[valeman]

Who of the players outside of Division 1 do you folks reckon should be getting a chance? (Genuine question, I don't see those games so I don't know)

Not many. Though there are players outside Div 1 on the current panel so not sure what the post above is referring to.

Banagher - Lynch and Hagan. Limavady have Hartin and possibly Brown in the next few years. Your lad Curran from Faughanvale is on the panel but hasn't made much of an impact. Castledawson - Niall Keenan was and will be on the panel again.

Outside of that you don't have many. Foreglen have Oisin Duffy who is good enough. Craigbane - If Aidy McLaughlin could make a come back from injury similar to M Bateson he is worth a shout, been impressive when he's been on the panel but unlucky with injury.
Steelstown have some good young players but Neil Forrester is still probably their best player at the moment. Gary Keane has scored fairly heavily for Ballerin but not sure if he's county standard or an upgrade on what we have - maybe deserves a chance. A few of the goalkeepers possibly worth a shout.

Normally I would agree that there should be more intermediate players looked at but I have obviously watched a lot of Intermediate football over the years and some junior, and I personally think this is as weak in terms of individual ability that the league has been (probably reflecting the overall standard in Derry). Over the years you would have some very strong intermediate players  who maybe should have had more of a look in, but outside of those mentioned already there really isn't much. In junior you probably have young Curran at Doire Colmcille who could be up on a training panel/McKenna cup just to be looked at but don't think he is near county level. The two Limavady players mentioned should be nowhere near the county team, they haven't kicked a ball for their senior team at junior level yet one has started multiple games for the county team and one would have but for the rules, ridiculous stuff. As for intermediate we have had young Jordan Curran up, apparently he has been head and shoulders above everyone at fitness tests etc...and that is his strength and Jordan is a big player for us but he hasn't had much of a look in and I wouldn't be sure he is a county player tbh. Duffy, Forester and Marty Dunne in goals are probably the only 3 I would say could add anything and all 3 have already played county. Outside of that there is very little. Keane at ballerin is nowhere near country standard, scores big from set plays but even that can be rocky on occasions. Having said all that....the players that are currently on the panel are no great shakes either so it couldn't do any harm to cast the net wider and have a look at all clubs in all leagues.

[greenlight]

As an outsider looking in- The problem that Derry have is the untapped potential they have in the City.
They have almost 100,000 people (mostly nationalist) and that's huge numbers that they could get players from. (If they really pushed it).
If they were to put serious money into coaching in the city - the schools / primary schools clubs etc - say maybe 10/15 full time coaches just in the city. In 8/10 years time they would have massive rewards - as the potential there is massive.
However there is no desire within the county to do that/ they would prefer to spend money on other things./ complain about Celtic Park and make excuses that it's a soccer town. (Things like that can be changed) -   As a Tyrone man I say long may it continue, but to me it's a pretty obvious solution as it could increase their player pool massively in the future.

An absolute disgrace a few years ago when the county board refused to allow Derry city to make some accommodation to play their games at Celtic Park. They had to play Home managed in Buncrana instead.

Some way to win favour with the soccer supporting masses in the city.

[theticklemister]

As an outsider looking in- The problem that Derry have is the untapped potential they have in the City.
They have almost 100,000 people (mostly nationalist) and that's huge numbers that they could get players from. (If they really pushed it).
If they were to put serious money into coaching in the city - the schools / primary schools clubs etc - say maybe 10/15 full time coaches just in the city. In 8/10 years time they would have massive rewards - as the potential there is massive.
However there is no desire within the county to do that/ they would prefer to spend money on other things./ complain about Celtic Park and make excuses that it's a soccer town. (Things like that can be changed) -   As a Tyrone man I say long may it continue, but to me it's a pretty obvious solution as it could increase their player pool massively in the future.

An absolute disgrace a few years ago when the county board refused to allow Derry city to make some accommodation to play their games at Celtic Park. They had to play Home managed in Buncrana instead.

Some way to win favour with the soccer supporting masses in the city.

Sam you hit the nail in the head boyo.

Green light what a pile of dung younjust spoke there

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As an outsider looking in- The problem that Derry have is the untapped potential they have in the City.
They have almost 100,000 people (mostly nationalist) and that's huge numbers that they could get players from. (If they really pushed it).
If they were to put serious money into coaching in the city - the schools / primary schools clubs etc - say maybe 10/15 full time coaches just in the city. In 8/10 years time they would have massive rewards - as the potential there is massive.
However there is no desire within the county to do that/ they would prefer to spend money on other things./ complain about Celtic Park and make excuses that it's a soccer town. (Things like that can be changed) -   As a Tyrone man I say long may it continue, but to me it's a pretty obvious solution as it could increase their player pool massively in the future.

An absolute disgrace a few years ago when the county board refused to allow Derry city to make some accommodation to play their games at Celtic Park. They had to play Home managed in Buncrana instead.

Some way to win favour with the soccer supporting masses in the city.

Sam you hit the nail in the head boyo.

Green light what a pile of dung younjust spoke there

As a matter of interest does anyone know how many coaching officers there are in Derry City?

To say that we don't have a good number of coaches going into schools in Derry City is just not true!!

[Derry Optimist]

With the Slaughtneil  central defenders back and Management urgently  addressing our current desperate defensive deficiences hopefully Derry will put in at least a good competitive performance in the first round of the Ulster championship.My team for that encounter would be as follows.

                                                                Ben McKinless
Kevin Johnston                                       Brendan Rogers                              Karl McKaigue
Liam McGoldrick                                      Chris McKaigue                               Michael Bateson                 
                                         Conor McAtamney                 Padraig Cassidy
Benny Heron                                           Emmett Bradley                             Enda Lynn
Niall  Toner                                              Mark Lynch                                    Shane McGuigan

Substitutes:  Oran Hartin,Carlus McWilliams,,Michael McEvoy.Terence O'Brien,James Kielt,Jack
                      Doherty,Ruairi Mooney,Peter Hagan,Conor McCluskey,Padraig McGrogan and Conor
                      Doherty.
                     
                      P.S.  In an ideal world no U20 players should be included in the Senior championship
                              panel.However unless management have a change of heart and recall or select
                              at least five or six of our top experienced players who are not currently on the
                               panel there is no other choice but to include them as substitutes.












                             

[JoG2]

As an outsider looking in- The problem that Derry have is the untapped potential they have in the City.
They have almost 100,000 people (mostly nationalist) and that's huge numbers that they could get players from. (If they really pushed it).
If they were to put serious money into coaching in the city - the schools / primary schools clubs etc - say maybe 10/15 full time coaches just in the city. In 8/10 years time they would have massive rewards - as the potential there is massive.
However there is no desire within the county to do that/ they would prefer to spend money on other things./ complain about Celtic Park and make excuses that it's a soccer town. (Things like that can be changed) -   As a Tyrone man I say long may it continue, but to me it's a pretty obvious solution as it could increase their player pool massively in the future.

An absolute disgrace a few years ago when the county board refused to allow Derry city to make some accommodation to play their games at Celtic Park. They had to play Home managed in Buncrana instead.

Some way to win favour with the soccer supporting masses in the city.

Sam you hit the nail in the head boyo.

Green light what a pile of dung younjust spoke there

As a matter of interest does anyone know how many coaching officers there are in Derry City?

To say that we don't have a good number of coaches going into schools in Derry City is just not true!!

Dolans, Colmcille, Steelstown and Trasna all have a coach with 3 / 4 primary schools they visit, not sure about Ardmore. To the best of my knowledge, there's very little happening in the secondary schools. St. Joes gets a bit of coaching from one of the officers and the Steelstown coach is in St Columbs from time to time.

[call it as i see it]

With the Slaughtneil  central defenders back and Management urgently  addressing our current desperate defensive deficiences hopefully Derry will put in at least a good competitive performance in the first round of the Ulster championship.My team for that encounter would be as follows.

                                                                Ben McKinless
Kevin Johnston                                       Brendan Rogers                              Karl McKaigue
Liam McGoldrick                                      Chris McKaigue                               Michael Bateson                 
                                         Conor McAtamney                 Padraig Cassidy
Benny Heron                                           Emmett Bradley                             Enda Lynn
Niall  Toner                                              Mark Lynch                                    Shane McGuigan

Substitutes:  Oran Hartin,Carlus McWilliams,,Michael McEvoy.Terence O'Brien,James Kielt,Jack
                      Doherty,Ruairi Mooney,Peter Hagan,Conor McCluskey,Padraig McGrogan and Conor
                      Doherty.
                     
                      P.S.  In an ideal world no U20 players should be included in the Senior championship
                              panel.However unless management have a change of heart and recall or select
                              at least five or six of our top experienced players who are not currently on the
                               panel there is no other choice but to include them as substitutes.

Derry optimist firstly mark lynch ful lforward the man couldnt run out of your way never mind run to a ball
emmett bradley is not county standard to slow for it
again benny heron great club man not county standard
carlus mcWilliams would he even be there if hes father wasnt paying big money into the county?










                             

[theticklemister]

As an outsider looking in- The problem that Derry have is the untapped potential they have in the City.
They have almost 100,000 people (mostly nationalist) and that's huge numbers that they could get players from. (If they really pushed it).
If they were to put serious money into coaching in the city - the schools / primary schools clubs etc - say maybe 10/15 full time coaches just in the city. In 8/10 years time they would have massive rewards - as the potential there is massive.
However there is no desire within the county to do that/ they would prefer to spend money on other things./ complain about Celtic Park and make excuses that it's a soccer town. (Things like that can be changed) -   As a Tyrone man I say long may it continue, but to me it's a pretty obvious solution as it could increase their player pool massively in the future.

An absolute disgrace a few years ago when the county board refused to allow Derry city to make some accommodation to play their games at Celtic Park. They had to play Home managed in Buncrana instead.

Some way to win favour with the soccer supporting masses in the city.

Sam you hit the nail in the head boyo.

Green light what a pile of dung younjust spoke there

As a matter of interest does anyone know how many coaching officers there are in Derry City?

To say that we don't have a good number of coaches going into schools in Derry City is just not true!!

Dolans, Colmcille, Steelstown and Trasna all have a coach with 3 / 4 primary schools they visit, not sure about Ardmore. To the best of my knowledge, there's very little happening in the secondary schools. St. Joes gets a bit of coaching from one of the officers and the Steelstown coach is in St Columbs from time to time.

In my life time, there has never been a desire to promote GAA in the city from the county board.

Read Cahair O Kane's there, I don't have a clue about the coaching setup so I can't comment. I don't live in Derry anymore.

On another note, 'bringing the gaa to the people' is somewhat bemusing, as the people in the county don't go and watch the county no matter where it is.

He then quotes 'a recently retired player (God knows who this might be)' who states

"If you asked the players in the changing room, 100 per cent of them would say they would not want to be there".

Some whataboutery right there.

[JoG2]

As an outsider looking in- The problem that Derry have is the untapped potential they have in the City.
They have almost 100,000 people (mostly nationalist) and that's huge numbers that they could get players from. (If they really pushed it).
If they were to put serious money into coaching in the city - the schools / primary schools clubs etc - say maybe 10/15 full time coaches just in the city. In 8/10 years time they would have massive rewards - as the potential there is massive.
However there is no desire within the county to do that/ they would prefer to spend money on other things./ complain about Celtic Park and make excuses that it's a soccer town. (Things like that can be changed) -   As a Tyrone man I say long may it continue, but to me it's a pretty obvious solution as it could increase their player pool massively in the future.

An absolute disgrace a few years ago when the county board refused to allow Derry city to make some accommodation to play their games at Celtic Park. They had to play Home managed in Buncrana instead.

Some way to win favour with the soccer supporting masses in the city.

Sam you hit the nail in the head boyo.

Green light what a pile of dung younjust spoke there

As a matter of interest does anyone know how many coaching officers there are in Derry City?

To say that we don't have a good number of coaches going into schools in Derry City is just not true!!

Dolans, Colmcille, Steelstown and Trasna all have a coach with 3 / 4 primary schools they visit, not sure about Ardmore. To the best of my knowledge, there's very little happening in the secondary schools. St. Joes gets a bit of coaching from one of the officers and the Steelstown coach is in St Columbs from time to time.

In my life time, there has never been a desire to promote GAA in the city from the county board.

Read Cahair O Kane's there, I don't have a clue about the coaching setup so I can't comment. I don't live in Derry anymore.

On another note, 'bringing the gaa to the people' is somewhat bemusing, as the people in the county don't go and watch the county no matter where it is.

He then quotes 'a recently retired player (God knows who this might be)' who states

"If you asked the players in the changing room, 100 per cent of them would say they would not want to be there".

Some whataboutery right there.

Reread my post above, the coaching officers have 3/4 primary schools each, not in total, just to be clear.

[BackInTheGame]

With the Slaughtneil  central defenders back and Management urgently  addressing our current desperate defensive deficiences hopefully Derry will put in at least a good competitive performance in the first round of the Ulster championship.My team for that encounter would be as follows.

                                                                Ben McKinless
Kevin Johnston                                       Brendan Rogers                              Karl McKaigue
Liam McGoldrick                                      Chris McKaigue                               Michael Bateson                 
                                         Conor McAtamney                 Padraig Cassidy
Benny Heron                                           Emmett Bradley                             Enda Lynn
Niall  Toner                                              Mark Lynch                                    Shane McGuigan

Substitutes:  Oran Hartin,Carlus McWilliams,,Michael McEvoy.Terence O'Brien,James Kielt,Jack
                      Doherty,Ruairi Mooney,Peter Hagan,Conor McCluskey,Padraig McGrogan and Conor
                      Doherty.
                     
                      P.S.  In an ideal world no U20 players should be included in the Senior championship
                              panel.However unless management have a change of heart and recall or select
                              at least five or six of our top experienced players who are not currently on the
                               panel there is no other choice but to include them as substitutes.

Derry optimist firstly mark lynch ful lforward the man couldnt run out of your way never mind run to a ball
emmett bradley is not county standard to slow for it
again benny heron great club man not county standard
carlus mcWilliams would he even be there if hes father wasnt paying big money into the county?










                             

Emmett Bradley not County standard? Too slow? Every time he runs towards goal he either scores or gets fouled. He's easily county standard.

DerryOptimist's idea of Cassidy midfield and Bradley in half forward is exactly what I would do, and that's a good triumvirate there - add Chrissy at CHB and the middle diamond is strong.

[call it as i see it]

With the Slaughtneil  central defenders back and Management urgently  addressing our current desperate defensive deficiences hopefully Derry will put in at least a good competitive performance in the first round of the Ulster championship.My team for that encounter would be as follows.

                                                                Ben McKinless
Kevin Johnston                                       Brendan Rogers                              Karl McKaigue
Liam McGoldrick                                      Chris McKaigue                               Michael Bateson                 
                                         Conor McAtamney                 Padraig Cassidy
Benny Heron                                           Emmett Bradley                             Enda Lynn
Niall  Toner                                              Mark Lynch                                    Shane McGuigan

Substitutes:  Oran Hartin,Carlus McWilliams,,Michael McEvoy.Terence O'Brien,James Kielt,Jack
                      Doherty,Ruairi Mooney,Peter Hagan,Conor McCluskey,Padraig McGrogan and Conor
                      Doherty.
                     
                      P.S.  In an ideal world no U20 players should be included in the Senior championship
                              panel.However unless management have a change of heart and recall or select
                              at least five or six of our top experienced players who are not currently on the
                               panel there is no other choice but to include them as substitutes.

Derry optimist firstly mark lynch ful lforward the man couldnt run out of your way never mind run to a ball
emmett bradley is not county standard to slow for it
again benny heron great club man not county standard
carlus mcWilliams would he even be there if hes father wasnt paying big money into the county?










                             

Emmett Bradley not County standard? Too slow? Every time he runs towards goal he either scores or gets fouled. He's easily county standard.

DerryOptimist's idea of Cassidy midfield and Bradley in half forward is exactly what I would do, and that's a good triumvirate there - add Chrissy at CHB and the middle diamond is strong.

well seen you are a glen man emmet bradley great club player but not county standard when have you seen him get the ball in a county match and drive at a defence and open them up? maybe he will be fit to do it in divison 3 against offaly. and also did he even touch the ball against slaughtneil in the semi final?
But another great question to ask is have you ever seen him make a tackle lol

[lenny]

With the Slaughtneil  central defenders back and Management urgently  addressing our current desperate defensive deficiences hopefully Derry will put in at least a good competitive performance in the first round of the Ulster championship.My team for that encounter would be as follows.

                                                                Ben McKinless
Kevin Johnston                                       Brendan Rogers                              Karl McKaigue
Liam McGoldrick                                      Chris McKaigue                               Michael Bateson                 
                                         Conor McAtamney                 Padraig Cassidy
Benny Heron                                           Emmett Bradley                             Enda Lynn
Niall  Toner                                              Mark Lynch                                    Shane McGuigan

Substitutes:  Oran Hartin,Carlus McWilliams,,Michael McEvoy.Terence O'Brien,James Kielt,Jack
                      Doherty,Ruairi Mooney,Peter Hagan,Conor McCluskey,Padraig McGrogan and Conor
                      Doherty.
                     
                      P.S.  In an ideal world no U20 players should be included in the Senior championship
                              panel.However unless management have a change of heart and recall or select
                              at least five or six of our top experienced players who are not currently on the
                               panel there is no other choice but to include them as substitutes.

Derry optimist firstly mark lynch ful lforward the man couldnt run out of your way never mind run to a ball
emmett bradley is not county standard to slow for it
again benny heron great club man not county standard
carlus mcWilliams would he even be there if hes father wasnt paying big money into the county?










                             

Emmett Bradley not County standard? Too slow? Every time he runs towards goal he either scores or gets fouled. He's easily county standard.

DerryOptimist's idea of Cassidy midfield and Bradley in half forward is exactly what I would do, and that's a good triumvirate there - add Chrissy at CHB and the middle diamond is strong.

well seen you are a glen man emmet bradley great club player but not county standard when have you seen him get the ball in a county match and drive at a defence and open them up? maybe he will be fit to do it in divison 3 against offaly. and also did he even touch the ball against slaughtneil in the semi final?
But another great question to ask is have you ever seen him make a tackle lol

He gave mckaigue plenty of bother in that semi final. If the ref has applied the rules mckaigue could've been black carded twice when Bradley ran at him. Were u even at that game? Bradley has been one of the few plus points for Derry in this league campaign.

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Lads don't feed the troll he hasn't a clue . . . wouldn't surprise me if it was another tfal account!!