Derry Club Football & Hurling original

[Wildweasel74]

T Rodgers will be the best of the underage midfielders coming through, but he's at least 3yrs away.

[Ryan O]

But who are the top 5 keepers in the county? I liked the look of the Newbridge keeper Gribben,but he's young plus Injured. C Bradley. Scullion,J Cassidy were all previous bck up keepers who got little time. Further bck u into McKinless and Harkin.

What is the craic with Scullion? No chance he could be coaxed back? Is Stuart still Bellaghy keeper? Thought he looked very good the few times I saw him.

Away or going to Australia, Stuart is about 38y/o,
Connlan Bradley also late 30s. Jack Cassidy is trying to make it in NFL as kicker.

Can't understand why Louis Regan who was keeper for Lavey in Championship last year wasn't kept on longer. Kick out alot better that what we have currently. Lynch is still Derry keeper this is only a back up.

[jmcgdoire]

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But who are the top 5 keepers in the county? I liked the look of the Newbridge keeper Gribben,but he's young plus Injured. C Bradley. Scullion,J Cassidy were all previous bck up keepers who got little time. Further bck u into McKinless and Harkin.

What is the craic with Scullion? No chance he could be coaxed back? Is Stuart still Bellaghy keeper? Thought he looked very good the few times I saw him.

Away or going to Australia, Stuart is about 38y/o,
Connlan Bradley also late 30s. Jack Cassidy is trying to make it in NFL as kicker.

Can't understand why Louis Regan who was keeper for Lavey in Championship last year wasn't kept on longer. Kick out alot better that what we have currently. Lynch is still Derry keeper this is only a back up.

Stuart is only 27 and imo the best keeper in the county. A fine shot stopper and kicker who orchestrates the attack well when going forward. Surely he has been asked up to Owenbeg in the past.

Sad to see we are losing good options in that position to American football. Cassidy is away giving it a go now and Jack Scullion is off following Jude McAtamney's footsteps. We are in a bad state when we are crying about and missing Odhran Lynch.

[JoG2]

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But who are the top 5 keepers in the county? I liked the look of the Newbridge keeper Gribben,but he's young plus Injured. C Bradley. Scullion,J Cassidy were all previous bck up keepers who got little time. Further bck u into McKinless and Harkin.

What is the craic with Scullion? No chance he could be coaxed back? Is Stuart still Bellaghy keeper? Thought he looked very good the few times I saw him.

Away or going to Australia, Stuart is about 38y/o,
Connlan Bradley also late 30s. Jack Cassidy is trying to make it in NFL as kicker.

Can't understand why Louis Regan who was keeper for Lavey in Championship last year wasn't kept on longer. Kick out alot better that what we have currently. Lynch is still Derry keeper this is only a back up.

Stuart is only 27 and imo the best keeper in the county. A fine shot stopper and kicker who orchestrates the attack well when going forward. Surely he has been asked up to Owenbeg in the past.

Sad to see we are losing good options in that position to American football. Cassidy is away giving it a go now and Jack Scullion is off following Jude McAtamney's footsteps. We are in a bad state when we are crying about and missing Odhran Lynch.

Grow TFU, seriously, get a grip

[jmcgdoire]

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But who are the top 5 keepers in the county? I liked the look of the Newbridge keeper Gribben,but he's young plus Injured. C Bradley. Scullion,J Cassidy were all previous bck up keepers who got little time. Further bck u into McKinless and Harkin.

What is the craic with Scullion? No chance he could be coaxed back? Is Stuart still Bellaghy keeper? Thought he looked very good the few times I saw him.

Away or going to Australia, Stuart is about 38y/o,
Connlan Bradley also late 30s. Jack Cassidy is trying to make it in NFL as kicker.

Can't understand why Louis Regan who was keeper for Lavey in Championship last year wasn't kept on longer. Kick out alot better that what we have currently. Lynch is still Derry keeper this is only a back up.

Stuart is only 27 and imo the best keeper in the county. A fine shot stopper and kicker who orchestrates the attack well when going forward. Surely he has been asked up to Owenbeg in the past.

Sad to see we are losing good options in that position to American football. Cassidy is away giving it a go now and Jack Scullion is off following Jude McAtamney's footsteps. We are in a bad state when we are crying about and missing Odhran Lynch.

Grow TFU, seriously, get a grip

Settle yourself. I dont consider Lynch to be that high standard a player but clearly he is very valuable to Derry. And that is indicative of the state of things atm.
I would say the same about the the fact we need to be playing Anton Tohill in midfield.

[JoG2]

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But who are the top 5 keepers in the county? I liked the look of the Newbridge keeper Gribben,but he's young plus Injured. C Bradley. Scullion,J Cassidy were all previous bck up keepers who got little time. Further bck u into McKinless and Harkin.

What is the craic with Scullion? No chance he could be coaxed back? Is Stuart still Bellaghy keeper? Thought he looked very good the few times I saw him.

Away or going to Australia, Stuart is about 38y/o,
Connlan Bradley also late 30s. Jack Cassidy is trying to make it in NFL as kicker.

Can't understand why Louis Regan who was keeper for Lavey in Championship last year wasn't kept on longer. Kick out alot better that what we have currently. Lynch is still Derry keeper this is only a back up.

Stuart is only 27 and imo the best keeper in the county. A fine shot stopper and kicker who orchestrates the attack well when going forward. Surely he has been asked up to Owenbeg in the past.

Sad to see we are losing good options in that position to American football. Cassidy is away giving it a go now and Jack Scullion is off following Jude McAtamney's footsteps. We are in a bad state when we are crying about and missing Odhran Lynch.

Grow TFU, seriously, get a grip

Settle yourself. I dont consider Lynch to be that high standard a player but clearly he is very valuable to Derry. And that is indicative of the state of things atm.
I would say the same about the the fact we need to be playing Anton Tohill in midfield.

Knock yourself out, you're one of those Internet guys.. Own it

[Estimator]

Scullion was in goals for 'Screen on Friday night v Glenullin. Put in a superb shift, long and short kick outs, a 2pter free and at least 4 game winning saves.

[zapped]

We're in a sorry state. As fans, we expect the team to fight right to the end. But the players should expect the same from us. Most of us have given up. The Derry attendance all season, and especially yesterday was a disgrace - we really don't deserve any success.

I get it that the team aren't giving us much to shout about but being a 'supporter' is exact that - supporting in good times and bad.

The reality is the panel that got to an All Ireland semi final in 22 & 23 is gone. The rules of that game are also gone. The management team is gone. RG had a team of average players playing above themselves.

I get the romanticism, but let's look at how his team performed -
2020: Beaten by Armagh in a fairly comprehensive fashion
2021: Beaten by Donegal in Ballybofey after refusing to hit a shot for the last 5/6 mins of the game.
2022: Beat a terrible Tyrone team, good win vs. Monaghan but needed extra time to beat a Donegal management that the players ended up roading soon after. Then beating Clare (probably the easiest route to an AI SF in years?) and we were shockingly short in vs. Galway. Add in the fact we failed to get promoted from Division 2.
2023: Fermanagh (a massive achievement) and beat a poor Monaghan side. He wasn't there for the Ulster final, but needing SMcG to hit a 50yrd free to bring the game to penalties is hardly winning convincingly. Promotion from Division 2, but shockingly short in the final.

I get that some people will look back longingly at those great days, but when you see it written down - it's kinda unimpressive. To achieve what we did needed uber commitment and shunning of anybody who didn't want to be a disciple (based on recent podcasts). We had a panel of 17 players, we didn't bring anybody through from U20 sides. We flogged the same group of players again and again until their bodies couldn't take it any longer. The players who were shunned & walked away missed 2/3 yrs of conditioning at the level required. We didn't bring through any U20's. We're still dealing with the legacy of that.

There are many many issues you can lay blame at PT for, but the reality is lots of these players are average. The new rules are about individual battles 1vs.1. Whilst we could mask that under RG with a structured & methodical approach with 15 in defence and attack, that is no longer possible. The goal posts have moved.

[Ryan O]

Philly Mc Mahon still wants the job anyway.lol

[Wildweasel74]

Last year 2 teams that beat us played in the All-Ireland final, the other 2 made the semis, Derry goalkeeper going on tour of the pitch last year was killing us, this year playing a outfield player is killing is. I think we got 5/6 very good players [2 of which are injured) but they expected to pick up the slack for 5/6 others who are underperformed. If we had a strong sub bench, 5/6 men wouldn't started yesterday, based on their league form. Ask yourself this, if Derry never got rid of Gallagher, would they be where they at now. Derry had 2 teams made the U20 final past 3yrs. Am sure Gallagher would picked up 4/5 from each team for the long haul. County Board management process would be my biggest query. Derry gone this year, and we looking at a rebuild nxt year.

[Ryan O]

Last year 2 teams that beat us played in the All-Ireland final, the other 2 made the semis, Derry goalkeeper going on tour of the pitch last year was killing us, this year playing a outfield player is killing is. I think we got 5/6 very good players [2 of which are injured) but they expected to pick up the slack for 5/6 others who are underperformed. If we had a strong sub bench, 5/6 men wouldn't started yesterday, based on their league form. Ask yourself this, if Derry never got rid of Gallagher, would they be where they at now. Derry had 2 teams made the U20 final past 3yrs. Am sure Gallagher would picked up 4/5 from each team for the long haul. County Board management process would be my biggest query. Derry gone this year, and we looking at a rebuild nxt year.

Our director of operations was in Jacksons hotel yesterday drinking some fine looking cocktails and I have absolutely no doubt perfectly happy with the job he is doing.
The whole lot of them should be sent down the road for having no backbone.

Like I seen someone else saying, I was one of the few saying our league campaign was unlucky rather than poor and that Tally was not doing to bad with all the cards he has been dealt, but he testing my loyalty to his process. Not totally given up but definitely alot quieter with my opinion.

[zapped]

Last year 2 teams that beat us played in the All-Ireland final, the other 2 made the semis, Derry goalkeeper going on tour of the pitch last year was killing us, this year playing a outfield player is killing is. I think we got 5/6 very good players [2 of which are injured) but they expected to pick up the slack for 5/6 others who are underperformed. If we had a strong sub bench, 5/6 men wouldn't started yesterday, based on their league form. Ask yourself this, if Derry never got rid of Gallagher, would they be where they at now. Derry had 2 teams made the U20 final past 3yrs. Am sure Gallagher would picked up 4/5 from each team for the long haul. County Board management process would be my biggest query. Derry gone this year, and we looking at a rebuild nxt year.

You seem to have made your way here from the Facebook comments.

He's not the manager & he left 2 years ago. We've had 3 managers since. Ciaran Meenagh guided us to an all Ireland semi and Micky Harte won our first national title since 2008. Isn't it time we moved on?

[JoG2]

Big 7 weeks ahead... I wouldn't be pulling down the shutters on the season just yet, far from it in fact. Winning primary possession aside, and considering we're playing nowhere near our potential, there was very little between the teams yesterday in general play, and Donegal are widely tipped to win the AI.

[Wildweasel74]

I know that when u look at it like that JOG2 but u could see Donegal defensive set up, defend the D, rush players when inside, and they were happy that the free man Derry kept getting was Doherty as he not a good shooter, then if they get a turn over break hard. They got a kickout strategy, long, short, free up a man, the set plays to open up men for scores in attack and getting their long rage shooters on the ball. Derry tactics I cant see, where's as u could see their tactics 2/3yrs ago.

[tbrick18]

Scullion was in goals for 'Screen on Friday night v Glenullin. Put in a superb shift, long and short kick outs, a 2pter free and at least 4 game winning saves.

Scullion was really good last year when in for Lynch. Would have been the ideal replacement.
From what i've heard he's going travelling and would have been involved if not for that.