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Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« Reply #4425 on: December 02, 2020, 11:39:00 AM »
I see Damian Cass has been heading up a committee over the past few months on the development of football [didn't see any mention of hurling?] in the county and has made a number of recommendations, the main one for me being the introduction of 4 divisional sides into the senior championship, which I think is a great idea, though not without some downsides.

Other ideas include silent sidelines up to  U13 and 1 touch only up to U13.

Shocking that it has omitted hurling, McEvoy gone because they wont pay outside man too(despite line in the papers), tbh for me it looks like football has become embarrassment for them at inter county level and they are going to throw everything at it, hurlers and dual players will not even be an afterthought.

Divisional sides pointless.

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« Reply #4426 on: December 02, 2020, 11:55:30 AM »
I read it yesterday evening and I thought the most obvious game changer was GPO's to every club. FBNS I'm from a duel club and the GPO is to coach both codes or in our case maybe camogie to. No doubt there will be a problem getting clubs to introduce hurling via the GPO to primary schools. And that has always been the problem getting clubs who want to start it, but a GPO who knows the basic coaching skills might be a start.  It will be interesting to see how that is dealt with if clubs buy into the GPO concept. The Go games section proposes football and hurling to be alternated week about and extending the season by two months approx. For me the Districts success will depend on how clubs commit to it. I thought it was refreshing to see a plan for once.
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« Reply #4427 on: December 02, 2020, 12:28:31 PM »
TBH I was shocked when I came on and saw that there hadn't been a single post about this on the thread, a few years ago this would have garnered a lot of discussion on here IMO.

Is that indicative of a wider malaise about GAA in Derry? Or maybe other SM forums have replaced this discussion board?

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« Reply #4428 on: December 02, 2020, 04:07:54 PM »
I read it yesterday evening and I thought the most obvious game changer was GPO's to every club. FBNS I'm from a duel club and the GPO is to coach both codes or in our case maybe camogie to. No doubt there will be a problem getting clubs to introduce hurling via the GPO to primary schools. And that has always been the problem getting clubs who want to start it, but a GPO who knows the basic coaching skills might be a start.  It will be interesting to see how that is dealt with if clubs buy into the GPO concept. The Go games section proposes football and hurling to be alternated week about and extending the season by two months approx. For me the Districts success will depend on how clubs commit to it. I thought it was refreshing to see a plan for once.
Agree with everything said there to be honest. Found it refreshing rather than trying the same old thing.

See the question from Mal regarding the u17, U18.5 and U20 championships, is that confirmed at club level? Last I saw it was going straight from U17 to U20. The U18.5 would be a good move as it would allow everyone at school age to play club football. The gap from U17 to U20/senior was too big for me.

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Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« Reply #4429 on: December 02, 2020, 05:55:52 PM »
I see Damian Cass has been heading up a committee over the past few months on the development of football [didn't see any mention of hurling?] in the county and has made a number of recommendations, the main one for me being the introduction of 4 divisional sides into the senior championship, which I think is a great idea, though not without some downsides.

Other ideas include silent sidelines up to  U13 and 1 touch only up to U13.

Shocking that it has omitted hurling, McEvoy gone because they wont pay outside man too(despite line in the papers), tbh for me it looks like football has become embarrassment for them at inter county level and they are going to throw everything at it, hurlers and dual players will not even be an afterthought.

Divisional sides pointless.

Embarrassment for them.... who is Ďthemí? Are you not from Derry?
Divisional teams have worked in Kerry, why not in Derry? With a view that the junior players get a chance to play at a higher level? There will be the usual challenges of who manages, what jersey and refusing to join, but if they can rise above that and see the bigger picture, then surely itís a good development?

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« Reply #4430 on: December 02, 2020, 07:53:05 PM »
I see Damian Cass has been heading up a committee over the past few months on the development of football [didn't see any mention of hurling?] in the county and has made a number of recommendations, the main one for me being the introduction of 4 divisional sides into the senior championship, which I think is a great idea, though not without some downsides.

Other ideas include silent sidelines up to  U13 and 1 touch only up to U13.

Shocking that it has omitted hurling, McEvoy gone because they wont pay outside man too(despite line in the papers), tbh for me it looks like football has become embarrassment for them at inter county level and they are going to throw everything at it, hurlers and dual players will not even be an afterthought.

Divisional sides pointless.

Embarrassment for them.... who is Ďthemí? Are you not from Derry?
Divisional teams have worked in Kerry, why not in Derry? With a view that the junior players get a chance to play at a higher level? There will be the usual challenges of who manages, what jersey and refusing to join, but if they can rise above that and see the bigger picture, then surely itís a good development?


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« Reply #4431 on: December 02, 2020, 07:54:05 PM »
Re divisional sides, does anyone know a rough time frame of how a typical season would run in Kerry to include league, championship and senior championship? Maybe my wording is out but they have 2 championships, correct?

~ how would Divisional training fit in around club training? Jnr teams these days demand a fair bit of commitment. Add a 2nd manager & team on top

~ re managers....You'd assume they'll be actual volunteer managers / coaches. Mercenary free zone I'd say. Who'd supply the cash? Its usually a wealthy benefactor supplying the envelope. Would there be many business out there willing to stump up for a team they've no emotional attachment too? Well not initially any road

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« Reply #4432 on: December 02, 2020, 11:06:06 PM »
I see Damian Cass has been heading up a committee over the past few months on the development of football [didn't see any mention of hurling?] in the county and has made a number of recommendations, the main one for me being the introduction of 4 divisional sides into the senior championship, which I think is a great idea, though not without some downsides.

Other ideas include silent sidelines up to  U13 and 1 touch only up to U13.

Shocking that it has omitted hurling, McEvoy gone because they wont pay outside man too(despite line in the papers), tbh for me it looks like football has become embarrassment for them at inter county level and they are going to throw everything at it, hurlers and dual players will not even be an afterthought.

Divisional sides pointless.

Embarrassment for them.... who is Ďthemí? Are you not from Derry?
Divisional teams have worked in Kerry, why not in Derry? With a view that the junior players get a chance to play at a higher level? There will be the usual challenges of who manages, what jersey and refusing to join, but if they can rise above that and see the bigger picture, then surely itís a good development?

Them,county board.
Divisional sides would cause havoc with training, fixtures etc. No appetite, so much so that ive never heard a single club person mention it before

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« Reply #4433 on: December 07, 2020, 10:48:08 PM »
I see Damian Cass has been heading up a committee over the past few months on the development of football [didn't see any mention of hurling?] in the county and has made a number of recommendations, the main one for me being the introduction of 4 divisional sides into the senior championship, which I think is a great idea, though not without some downsides.

Other ideas include silent sidelines up to  U13 and 1 touch only up to U13.

Shocking that it has omitted hurling, McEvoy gone because they wont pay outside man too(despite line in the papers), tbh for me it looks like football has become embarrassment for them at inter county level and they are going to throw everything at it, hurlers and dual players will not even be an afterthought.

Divisional sides pointless.

Embarrassment for them.... who is Ďthemí? Are you not from Derry?
Divisional teams have worked in Kerry, why not in Derry? With a view that the junior players get a chance to play at a higher level? There will be the usual challenges of who manages, what jersey and refusing to join, but if they can rise above that and see the bigger picture, then surely itís a good development?

Them,county board.
Divisional sides would cause havoc with training, fixtures etc. No appetite, so much so that ive never heard a single club person mention it before
Who did your club nominate for officers on County Board last year?

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Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« Reply #4434 on: December 07, 2020, 10:58:51 PM »
I see Damian Cass has been heading up a committee over the past few months on the development of football [didn't see any mention of hurling?] in the county and has made a number of recommendations, the main one for me being the introduction of 4 divisional sides into the senior championship, which I think is a great idea, though not without some downsides.

Other ideas include silent sidelines up to  U13 and 1 touch only up to U13.

Shocking that it has omitted hurling, McEvoy gone because they wont pay outside man too(despite line in the papers), tbh for me it looks like football has become embarrassment for them at inter county level and they are going to throw everything at it, hurlers and dual players will not even be an afterthought.

Divisional sides pointless.

Embarrassment for them.... who is Ďthemí? Are you not from Derry?
Divisional teams have worked in Kerry, why not in Derry? With a view that the junior players get a chance to play at a higher level? There will be the usual challenges of who manages, what jersey and refusing to join, but if they can rise above that and see the bigger picture, then surely itís a good development?

Them,county board.
Divisional sides would cause havoc with training, fixtures etc. No appetite, so much so that ive never heard a single club person mention it before
Who did your club nominate for officers on County Board last year?

Aye we have development officer position

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Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« Reply #4435 on: December 08, 2020, 10:53:06 AM »
I see Damian Cass has been heading up a committee over the past few months on the development of football [didn't see any mention of hurling?] in the county and has made a number of recommendations, the main one for me being the introduction of 4 divisional sides into the senior championship, which I think is a great idea, though not without some downsides.

Other ideas include silent sidelines up to  U13 and 1 touch only up to U13.

Shocking that it has omitted hurling, McEvoy gone because they wont pay outside man too(despite line in the papers), tbh for me it looks like football has become embarrassment for them at inter county level and they are going to throw everything at it, hurlers and dual players will not even be an afterthought.

Divisional sides pointless.


Fact is Derry is too small a county to make a reasonable cut at both codes at inter county level.  We can either continue to be mediocre at both or do what most counties our size do.

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Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« Reply #4436 on: December 08, 2020, 11:26:37 AM »
I see Damian Cass has been heading up a committee over the past few months on the development of football [didn't see any mention of hurling?] in the county and has made a number of recommendations, the main one for me being the introduction of 4 divisional sides into the senior championship, which I think is a great idea, though not without some downsides.

Other ideas include silent sidelines up to  U13 and 1 touch only up to U13.

Shocking that it has omitted hurling, McEvoy gone because they wont pay outside man too(despite line in the papers), tbh for me it looks like football has become embarrassment for them at inter county level and they are going to throw everything at it, hurlers and dual players will not even be an afterthought.

Divisional sides pointless.


Fact is Derry is too small a county to make a reasonable cut at both codes at inter county level.  We can either continue to be mediocre at both or do what most counties our size do.

Lets ditch the football then, it would bore the knickers off a nun atm
« Last Edit: December 08, 2020, 11:59:27 AM by Fear Bun Na Sceilpe »

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« Reply #4437 on: December 08, 2020, 02:56:31 PM »
Enda Lynn is a big miss to the panel.

He was the longest serving member of the panel and still a key player.

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« Reply #4438 on: December 08, 2020, 03:27:54 PM »
Enda Lynn is a big miss to the panel.

He was the longest serving member of the panel and still a key player.

What happened?

Did he retire or a falling out?

Definitely was a good player who served Derry very well

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« Reply #4439 on: December 08, 2020, 03:37:46 PM »
Enda Lynn is a big miss to the panel.

He was the longest serving member of the panel and still a key player.

What happened?

Did he retire or a falling out?

Definitely was a good player who served Derry very well


Seems to have been a falling out with Gallagher. Disappointing news