Derry Club Football & Hurling original

[Squareball71]

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Should have been a 2 pointer. As I say the ref needs to be absolutely sure it is, or is not. The evidence supports it should have a been a two pointer. The balance of probability is in S'neils favour here.

The ref doesn't even point what way the foul was on the infraction is given. That is such an incredible penalty for S'neil to have suffered. The ball broke, a s'neil player gets the break, the Newbridge player hits and the ball spills and the ref penalises s'neil, and as I said no hand signal to indicate his decision. The s'neil player who won the break concentration was on getting the ball. A brilliant example of such a terrible rule never mind the ref not signalling clearly

Patsy dropped it / placed it on the ground instead of handing it back.

I'd disagree. Looked very much like he had it knocked out of his hands. Add it to Shane McGuigans 2 pointer that wasn't given Slaughtneil have every right to be unhappy with the referee with how the game ended.

[GTP]

The rule is a player who commits a foul while in possession must hand the ball back to the nearest opponent in a prompt and respectful manner. Patsy didn't commit a foul whilst in possession so didnt have to hand the ball back. He did delay the free being taken so there is probably justification to bring the free forward. You can disagree with the outcome but since we dont really know why it was moved you can't say it was definitely wrong. The two point arc is going to cause plenty of controversy, with Shane inside the arc with his back foot on the line it didn't look like a 2 pointer as the kick looks to be taken inside the arc. A pretty difficult call for anyone to make. 
Don't think any conspiracy against S'Neil just didn't have quite enough over the 60 mins.

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https://x.com/McCoyNiall/status/1977687674904510799

Should have been a 2 pointer. As I say the ref needs to be absolutely sure it is, or is not. The evidence supports it should have a been a two pointer. The balance of probability is in S'neils favour here.

The ref doesn't even point what way the foul was on the infraction is given. That is such an incredible penalty for S'neil to have suffered. The ball broke, a s'neil player gets the break, the Newbridge player hits and the ball spills and the ref penalises s'neil, and as I said no hand signal to indicate his decision. The s'neil player who won the break concentration was on getting the ball. A brilliant example of such a terrible rule never mind the ref not signalling clearly

Patsy dropped it / placed it on the ground instead of handing it back.

I'd disagree. Looked very much like he had it knocked out of his hands. Add it to Shane McGuigans 2 pointer that wasn't given Slaughtneil have every right to be unhappy with the referee with how the game ended.

Very pro slaughtneil post here when you don't mention the obvious off the ground from tad for sammys 2 point free.

Swings and roundabouts when you consider the few calls against lavey in the QF in front of the tg4 cameras.

[jb77]

Slaughtneil were still given an extra minute to do something and they kicked a wide

[Nanderson]

The rule is a player who commits a foul while in possession must hand the ball back to the nearest opponent in a prompt and respectful manner. Patsy didn't commit a foul whilst in possession so didnt have to hand the ball back. He did delay the free being taken so there is probably justification to bring the free forward. You can disagree with the outcome but since we dont really know why it was moved you can't say it was definitely wrong. The two point arc is going to cause plenty of controversy, with Shane inside the arc with his back foot on the line it didn't look like a 2 pointer as the kick looks to be taken inside the arc. A pretty difficult call for anyone to make. 
Don't think any conspiracy against S'Neil just didn't have quite enough over the 60 mins.

Is it in the rules that a referee has to point the the direction of the free or do all players need to be telepathic?

[Ryan O]

In relation to the referees in the county, there's some good young refs coming through but do they ever get chance at decent game. 2 weeks ago you had Barry Cassidy doing the u14A final, Harry Tohill and Maurice Corrigan the two U16A semi -finals, no disrespect to these men but do they need to be doing them, maybe go as lineman and keep the new lads right if needed.

Surly these young referees should be
getting these type of games, decent crowds  proper championship and good standard, instead they're getting a intermediate/junior reserve game.
I get there is egos and a percentage of prestige involved but County Board need to push young refs to the front.

[GTP]

PB did turn his back on ref so not sure pointing would have made much difference. At this stage most players know if they have the ball and the whistle goes you need to stop and see what is going on. The interpretation of refs when bringing a free forward has always been ropey. With handing it back and the bigger penalty now in place it has become more of an issue. I have tried to give up complaining about refs as it is very difficult to tell why any decision has been made.

[Stickman]

In relation to the referees in the county, there's some good young refs coming through but do they ever get chance at decent game. 2 weeks ago you had Barry Cassidy doing the u14A final, Harry Tohill and Maurice Corrigan the two U16A semi -finals, no disrespect to these men but do they need to be doing them, maybe go as lineman and keep the new lads right if needed.

Surly these young referees should be
getting these type of games, decent crowds  proper championship and good standard, instead they're getting a intermediate/junior reserve game.
I get there is egos and a percentage of prestige involved but County Board need to push young refs to the front.

I'd have to agree with this post, in a few years time we are going to be relying on these younger referees a lot and have a severe shortage if the current trend continues