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Owen Brannigan

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Re: Stormont Assembly Elections 2017
« Reply #1350 on: April 21, 2017, 10:12:13 AM »
Brokenshire is going to do something about the council funding. Poor NI. Nobody cares either in Stormont or London.

He will strike the regional rate to allow rates bills to be paid as councils have started to be paid out of the block grant and amend legislation to extend the time from three weeks for nominations of FM and DFM given election date.

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« Reply #1351 on: April 21, 2017, 10:49:30 AM »
Also sf don't go to westminster which you would imagine impacts their voting.

It will have a positive impact i'd say. As shown with Brexit, there's no point in sending politicians to London.

Could someone point out the arguments for SF not sitting in Westminster against the reasoning why it makes sense for the SNP to do so?

I'm just wondering if there's not a time when it would be beneficial for SF to make their voices heard in Westminster so as to embarrass the ruling parties a bit more in their own back yard.
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« Reply #1352 on: April 21, 2017, 11:00:31 AM »

I'm just wondering if there's not a time when it would be beneficial for SF to make their voices heard in Westminster so as to embarrass the ruling parties a bit more in their own back yard.

I'd actually love to hear Mary-Lou over in Westminster. 

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« Reply #1353 on: April 21, 2017, 11:08:20 AM »
There are over 500 English MPs  in Westminister so it doesn't matter a damn who from the North (or Scotland/Wales) take or dont taketheir seats.
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« Reply #1354 on: April 21, 2017, 11:13:28 AM »
There are over 500 English MPs  in Westminister so it doesn't matter a damn who from the North (or Scotland/Wales) take or dont taketheir seats.
if there is a hung parliament it does.
The SF position doesn't make sense now. The net result of their foostering is that NI is in limbo.
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« Reply #1355 on: April 21, 2017, 11:16:16 AM »
Because the Westminster Parliament requires an oath to a head of state who cannot be of a particular religion ( Catholic). Sectarian law (Act of Settlement) which underpins the "constitution" of the United Kingdom. No party has ever brought a realistic proposal to amend this. Abstention should be highlighting this abomination.

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« Reply #1356 on: April 21, 2017, 11:31:33 AM »
Forgot about that ...cheers. No doubt the media would make much of any SF MP taking it (even though most would know they'd keep their fingers crossed throughout  :))
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« Reply #1357 on: April 21, 2017, 11:58:56 AM »
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/letters/unionism-has-made-no-effort-to-bring-catholics-into-the-fold-or-convince-them-to-back-the-uk-35639350.html

Attention all slow learners.Read this and learn who abandoned Northern Nationalists,who has never sought to end this abandonment and further explain why you place your trust in such people going forward?

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« Reply #1358 on: April 21, 2017, 12:06:36 PM »
I see HRH Prince Charles is to be (no doubt) feted and fawned over in Kilkenny this week as well.

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« Reply #1359 on: April 21, 2017, 12:07:59 PM »
Because the Westminster Parliament requires an oath to a head of state who cannot be of a particular religion ( Catholic). Sectarian law (Act of Settlement) which underpins the "constitution" of the United Kingdom. No party has ever brought a realistic proposal to amend this. Abstention should be highlighting this abomination.
There are 72 catholic MPs.
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« Reply #1360 on: April 21, 2017, 01:37:39 PM »
I see HRH Prince Charles is to be (no doubt) feted and fawned over in Kilkenny this week as well.
Only fawning I see us you sticking 3 capital letters and a feudal "title" before his name :P
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« Reply #1361 on: April 21, 2017, 02:10:34 PM »
There are over 500 English MPs  in Westminister so it doesn't matter a damn who from the North (or Scotland/Wales) take or dont taketheir seats.
if there is a hung parliament it does.
The SF position doesn't make sense now. The net result of their foostering is that NI is in limbo.


It makes no difference to the position of sending Irish men and women to London to rule Ireland. In a practical sense it still makes no difference either.

As for NI being in Limbo? This is the result of it's place within the union and nothing else.

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« Reply #1362 on: April 21, 2017, 02:51:33 PM »
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/opinion/letters/unionism-has-made-no-effort-to-bring-catholics-into-the-fold-or-convince-them-to-back-the-uk-35639350.html

Attention all slow learners.Read this and learn who abandoned Northern Nationalists,who has never sought to end this abandonment and further explain why you place your trust in such people going forward?

Were you using a pseudonym? You should have capitalised the names.
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« Reply #1363 on: April 21, 2017, 03:14:19 PM »
There are over 500 English MPs  in Westminister so it doesn't matter a damn who from the North (or Scotland/Wales) take or dont taketheir seats.
if there is a hung parliament it does.
The SF position doesn't make sense now. The net result of their foostering is that NI is in limbo.

There are 56 (or technically 54) SNP MPs.  What influence have they had??  I can't see four or five SF MPs attending Westminster making a button of difference and it would be a vote loser too.
Say this election results in the Tories plus DUP being 2 seats ahead of everyone else. An everyone else government could bring in a language act under Direct Rule. But the Tories would be in charge .
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« Reply #1364 on: April 23, 2017, 11:24:33 AM »
UUP have stated they won't stand in Foyle, North Belfast and West Belfast.

This signals to DUP that they won't do anything to affect their de facto leader, Dodds, and will want a similar arrangement in other seats especially to protect Kinahan in South Antrim and Elliot in FST.

Interesting that they are pointing out they could run Nesbitt in South Belfast and Kennedy in Upper Bann.

There is a need for an agreed anti-Brexit candidate in North Belfast to defeat Dodds which would be a significant blow to the DUP.  No established SF or SDLP candidate would be enough to draw in the Alliance vote needed to win from Dodds.

North Belfast election results 2017
61.8%

DUP   13,309   
UUP   2,418   
PUP   2,053   17,780

AP   3,487 
 
SF   12,204   
SDLP   5,431   
PBP   1,559   
GP   711   
WP   248        20,153

IND   66   


North Belfast General Election results

2015   
59.20%

DUP   19,096
SF   13,770
SDLP   3,338
APNI   2,941
WP   919
IND   529   
   
2010   
56.50%

DUP   14,812
SF   12,588
SDLP   4,544
UCU-NF   2,837
APNI   1,809
IND   403
   
2005   
57.80%

DUP   13,935
SF   8,747
SDLP   4,950
UUP   2,154
APNI   438
WP   165
IND   151
   
2001   
67.20%

DUP   16,718
SF   10,331
SDLP   8,592
UUP   4,904
WP   253
IND   134
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