New Zealand earthquake and tsunami

Started by muppet, November 13, 2016, 05:12:17 PM

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seafoid

Quote from: AZOffaly on November 14, 2016, 11:14:17 AM
I'm aware of that. I'm calling bullshit on the Independent's reporting of this lady's experience. All designed to get clicks. Read the story about what she said actually happened, and come back to me if what she experienced was 'horrific'.

I'm not doubting she was afraid, I'd imagine I'd be afraid, but then everyone on the San Andreas fault is afraid too. Horror, in the way they are writing, does not mean 'fear' though. But a headline that said

"'The wardrobe doors were rattling, I couldn't understand it' - Irish woman describes New Zealand earthquake fear OR
"'The wardrobe doors were rattling, I couldn't understand it' - Irish woman describes New Zealand earthquake nervousness

wouldn't sell as much clicks.

Maybe I just hate the independent.
It is probably a mixture of both.
Papers romanticise
Did Vogue Williams have anything to say ?

AZOffaly

Remember when papers newspapers used to report the news? I miss that.

muppet

Quote from: AZOffaly on November 14, 2016, 11:55:26 AM
Remember when papers newspapers used to report the news? I miss that.

I don't know who started it, but imho the likes of Murdock and Maxwell having their publications merely reflect their own extreme ideology was the beginning of the end for the media.

Read any edition of The Daily Mail for reference.
MWWSI 2017

AZOffaly

Quote from: muppet on November 14, 2016, 12:52:00 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on November 14, 2016, 11:55:26 AM
Remember when papers newspapers used to report the news? I miss that.

I don't know who started it, but imho the likes of Murdock and Maxwell having their publications merely reflect their own extreme ideology was the beginning of the end for the media.

Read any edition of The Daily Mail for reference.

I rather not, thanks. :)

But they all do it now, just from different agendas. The Guardian is like the opposite end of the scale from the Daily Mail. But they are not newspapers now, they are opinion pieces. Soap Boxes. The print version óf the Hyde Park corner in London.

muppet

Quote from: AZOffaly on November 14, 2016, 01:10:02 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 14, 2016, 12:52:00 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on November 14, 2016, 11:55:26 AM
Remember when papers newspapers used to report the news? I miss that.

I don't know who started it, but imho the likes of Murdock and Maxwell having their publications merely reflect their own extreme ideology was the beginning of the end for the media.

Read any edition of The Daily Mail for reference.

I rather not, thanks. :)

But they all do it now, just from different agendas. The Guardian is like the opposite end of the scale from the Daily Mail. But they are not newspapers now, they are opinion pieces. Soap Boxes. The print version óf the Hyde Park corner in London.

Exactly.

The amazing freedom we allow them has been wasted and in many cases abused.
MWWSI 2017

seafoid

The quality papers are still OK.  The NYT is doing an honest job investigating Trump fraud. The IT is ok. It was always limited. The Daily Mail is an enabler of fascism by way of soft porn.

The role of the media is to assure us everything is fine.  And they can't now.

AZOffaly

Quote from: seafoid on November 14, 2016, 01:56:46 PM
The quality papers are still OK.  The NYT is doing an honest job investigating Trump fraud. The IT is ok. It was always limited. The Daily Mail is an enabler of fascism by way of soft porn.

The role of the media is to assure us everything is fine.  And they can't now.

Assure us everything is fine, or frighten us into thinking everything is fucked. Depending on their agenda. As I said, no reporting, all agenda based opinion.

muppet

Quote from: AZOffaly on November 14, 2016, 01:57:56 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 14, 2016, 01:56:46 PM
The quality papers are still OK.  The NYT is doing an honest job investigating Trump fraud. The IT is ok. It was always limited. The Daily Mail is an enabler of fascism by way of soft porn.

The role of the media is to assure us everything is fine.  And they can't now.

Assure us everything is fine, or frighten us into thinking everything is fucked. Depending on their agenda. As I said, no reporting, all agenda based opinion.

The role of the media is to report in a fair and balanced manner. Tell us as it is, without bias. But let us make up our minds.

Sadly there are very few hacks, never mind media outlets, that you can say do that.
MWWSI 2017

seafoid

Quote from: muppet on November 14, 2016, 02:00:17 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on November 14, 2016, 01:57:56 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 14, 2016, 01:56:46 PM
The quality papers are still OK.  The NYT is doing an honest job investigating Trump fraud. The IT is ok. It was always limited. The Daily Mail is an enabler of fascism by way of soft porn.

The role of the media is to assure us everything is fine.  And they can't now.

Assure us everything is fine, or frighten us into thinking everything is fucked. Depending on their agenda. As I said, no reporting, all agenda based opinion.

The role of the media is to report in a fair and balanced manner. Tell us as it is, without bias. But let us make up our minds.

Sadly there are very few hacks, never mind media outlets, that you can say do that.
So many things never make it into the narrative.
I wouldn't be too hard on journalists.  Teaching is just as bad

AZOffaly

Quote from: seafoid on November 14, 2016, 02:24:27 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 14, 2016, 02:00:17 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on November 14, 2016, 01:57:56 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 14, 2016, 01:56:46 PM
The quality papers are still OK.  The NYT is doing an honest job investigating Trump fraud. The IT is ok. It was always limited. The Daily Mail is an enabler of fascism by way of soft porn.

The role of the media is to assure us everything is fine.  And they can't now.

Assure us everything is fine, or frighten us into thinking everything is fucked. Depending on their agenda. As I said, no reporting, all agenda based opinion.

The role of the media is to report in a fair and balanced manner. Tell us as it is, without bias. But let us make up our minds.

Sadly there are very few hacks, never mind media outlets, that you can say do that.
So many things never make it into the narrative.
I wouldn't be too hard on journalists.  Teaching is just as bad

Too many journalists, too few reporters.

imtommygunn

It's not  a career that would be appealing at all these days. I know one boy who does it and follow him on twitter. Nothing but garbage on his twitter feed bout "celebs", stories about bin days etc. Now granted that is local but even at national level imagine being a daily mail / sun journalist and you had some integrity about yourself. You wouldn't stand a chance.

omaghjoe

Quote from: AZOffaly on November 14, 2016, 02:31:25 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 14, 2016, 02:24:27 PM
Quote from: muppet on November 14, 2016, 02:00:17 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on November 14, 2016, 01:57:56 PM
Quote from: seafoid on November 14, 2016, 01:56:46 PM
The quality papers are still OK.  The NYT is doing an honest job investigating Trump fraud. The IT is ok. It was always limited. The Daily Mail is an enabler of fascism by way of soft porn.

The role of the media is to assure us everything is fine.  And they can't now.

Assure us everything is fine, or frighten us into thinking everything is fucked. Depending on their agenda. As I said, no reporting, all agenda based opinion.

The role of the media is to report in a fair and balanced manner. Tell us as it is, without bias. But let us make up our minds.

Sadly there are very few hacks, never mind media outlets, that you can say do that.
So many things never make it into the narrative.
I wouldn't be too hard on journalists.  Teaching is just as bad

Too many journalists, too few reporters.

The role of the media is to make money, this equates to telling people what they want to hear

AZOffaly

Or to get them angry/scared so they click into all their stories.

omaghjoe

Quote from: AZOffaly on November 14, 2016, 03:02:07 PM
Or to get them angry/scared so they click into all their stories.

.. if you want to get scared/angry/outraged it all amounts to the same thing, your choice of media provides with means to each your preferred emotional state

AZOffaly

True I suppose, but things like Facebook throw it in your face, you don't have to go looking. It's not necessarily confirmation bias.