A Tyrone book

[muppet]

It is in the book

Fair enough.

[Il Bomber Destro]

Finished the book.

McCarron comes across very badly. He thinks he is owed forgiveness after all the terrible things he has done but when he talks about other people who he feels have betrayed him he is not beholden to his own standards.

The bit where he talks about Ryan Porter being "dead to him" after he made a quip about the Porno film just typifies this. A guy makes an insulting comment in the heat of the moment and apologises to him shortly after and he won't accept it and carries it forward. Yet he constantly moans about Dromore players not visiting him in rehab and being driven out of Tyrone after all the sc**bag antics he pulled. He consistently tries to excuse all his antics because he had a "disease".

There were a few decent insights to it. The McGee brothers, like I've always felt, are thoroughly alright sorts according to McCarron and their sledging is very much of a harmless variety. They play hard and while they may dole a fair bit of filthy digs they are more than willing to take them too. I take it McBrearty is the Donegal forward he is referring to about being one of the best players in the country if he concentrated more on the football than mouthing off?

I wouldn't have too much sympathy for the sledging he receives but he doesn't seem to have received near as much of it as you'd have expected. He particularly went to town on Monaghan for their behaviour in 2014, he did seem to be getting an awful lot of goading that day at the match. Monaghan and Derry are the two sides who he called out as targeting him for verbals.

[lenny]

They do it all the time in American sport and no one passes any remarks.
Personally, nothing gets me psyched up and ready to run through a brick wall quite like a good decade of the rosary.

lol, very good. Dear Lord please accept these prayers as recompense for the foul mouthed sledging and cynical fouling I am about to administer, Amen. Just a small bit hypocritical.

[Syferus]

Mickey Harte's cognitive dissonce knows no bounds.

[Jinxy]

They do it all the time in American sport and no one passes any remarks.
Personally, nothing gets me psyched up and ready to run through a brick wall quite like a good decade of the rosary.

lol, very good. Dear Lord please accept these prayers as recompense for the foul mouthed sledging and cynical fouling I am about to administer, Amen. Just a small bit hypocritical.

"Bless me Father for I have sledged..."

[Il Bomber Destro]

Mickey Harte's cognitive dissonce knows no bounds.

Did you mean to say dissonance?

[twohands!!!]

Let's discuss the bit that jumped out at me.

Before championship matches this year they recite the rosary. Mickey leads the 1st, 3rd and 5th and the players do the 2nd and 4th and Mickey responds on his own.

Am I wrong thinking this is a bit sorta mad?

That is completely nuts. Just shows how much power Harte has and how much the players have been brainwashed into the cult of Micky.

That is mental.

Utter lunacy stuff from Mickey. Talk about being stuck in the stone age.

[Il Bomber Destro]

Why is it mental?

Mickey is a deeply spiritual person. I would imagine a lot of the people who continually bash Harte for his faith and stubbornness would come nowhere near having the sort of positive effect he has had on many people's live, including some very troubled and grieving souls.

People are entitled to their opinions but I think some of the cheap character attacks on Harte here give you an insight into the kind of person making them.

[TabClear]

Why is it mental?

Mickey is a deeply spiritual person. I would imagine a lot of the people who continually bash Harte for his faith and stubbornness would come nowhere near having the sort of positive effect he has had on many people's live, including some very troubled and grieving souls.

People are entitled to their opinions but I think some of the cheap character attacks on Harte here give you an insight into the kind of person making them.

Not a character attack.  I absolutely respect his deep faith and he has went through things that I can't even imagine and he says himself his faith keeps him going.

However, I don't think it's appropriate to expect others to replicate that in his position.

[Il Bomber Destro]

Why is it mental?

Mickey is a deeply spiritual person. I would imagine a lot of the people who continually bash Harte for his faith and stubbornness would come nowhere near having the sort of positive effect he has had on many people's live, including some very troubled and grieving souls.

People are entitled to their opinions but I think some of the cheap character attacks on Harte here give you an insight into the kind of person making them.

Not a character attack.  I absolutely respect his deep faith and he has went through things that I can't even imagine and he says himself his faith keeps him going.

However, I don't think it's appropriate to expect others to replicate that in his position.

Replicate what? Faith?

I don't think it causes any problems whatsoever to those who his faith might impact on.

[lenny]

Why is it mental?

Mickey is a deeply spiritual person. I would imagine a lot of the people who continually bash Harte for his faith and stubbornness would come nowhere near having the sort of positive effect he has had on many people's live, including some very troubled and grieving souls.

People are entitled to their opinions but I think some of the cheap character attacks on Harte here give you an insight into the kind of person making them.

Not a character attack.  I absolutely respect his deep faith and he has went through things that I can't even imagine and he says himself his faith keeps him going.

However, I don't think it's appropriate to expect others to replicate that in his position.

Replicate what? Faith?

I don't think it causes any problems whatsoever to those who his faith might impact on.

Again it's a bit like the RTE boycott. Players will feel the need to act like sheep and go along with the flock because of the fear of standing out and being dropped. If a player thinks it is ridiculous and doesn't want to participate the simple fact is harte doesn't look on that sort of thing kindly. A lot of these players given free choice wouldn't be near a chapel from one end of the year to the other but here they are saying 5 decades of the rosary before games.

[seafoid]

They do it all the time in American sport and no one passes any remarks.
Personally, nothing gets me psyched up and ready to run through a brick wall quite like a good decade of the rosary.

If you were doing it on Lough Derg with no shoes and nothing eaten for 2 days imagine the transformative power

[Il Bomber Destro]

Why is it mental?

Mickey is a deeply spiritual person. I would imagine a lot of the people who continually bash Harte for his faith and stubbornness would come nowhere near having the sort of positive effect he has had on many people's live, including some very troubled and grieving souls.

People are entitled to their opinions but I think some of the cheap character attacks on Harte here give you an insight into the kind of person making them.

Not a character attack.  I absolutely respect his deep faith and he has went through things that I can't even imagine and he says himself his faith keeps him going.

However, I don't think it's appropriate to expect others to replicate that in his position.

Replicate what? Faith?

I don't think it causes any problems whatsoever to those who his faith might impact on.

Again it's a bit like the RTE boycott. Players will feel the need to act like sheep and go along with the flock because of the fear of standing out and being dropped. If a player thinks it is ridiculous and doesn't want to participate the simple fact is harte doesn't look on that sort of thing kindly. A lot of these players given free choice wouldn't be near a chapel from one end of the year to the other but here they are saying 5 decades of the rosary before games.

Didn't you say McCarron would be dropped for engaging with RTE?

Your word doesn't seem to carry much credibility around here.

[lenny]

Why is it mental?

Mickey is a deeply spiritual person. I would imagine a lot of the people who continually bash Harte for his faith and stubbornness would come nowhere near having the sort of positive effect he has had on many people's live, including some very troubled and grieving souls.

People are entitled to their opinions but I think some of the cheap character attacks on Harte here give you an insight into the kind of person making them.

Not a character attack.  I absolutely respect his deep faith and he has went through things that I can't even imagine and he says himself his faith keeps him going.

However, I don't think it's appropriate to expect others to replicate that in his position.

Replicate what? Faith?

I don't think it causes any problems whatsoever to those who his faith might impact on.

Again it's a bit like the RTE boycott. Players will feel the need to act like sheep and go along with the flock because of the fear of standing out and being dropped. If a player thinks it is ridiculous and doesn't want to participate the simple fact is harte doesn't look on that sort of thing kindly. A lot of these players given free choice wouldn't be near a chapel from one end of the year to the other but here they are saying 5 decades of the rosary before games.

Didn't you say McCarron would be dropped for engaging with RTE?

Your word doesn't seem to carry much credibility around here.

If he had gone onto RTE then I would have expected him to be dropped from the team. I am not saying that definitively, it's only an opinion. It is based on knowing a few ex players. It is commonly reported that harte was livid with mcmenamin for going onto the sunday game.

[BennyHarp]

Why is it mental?

Mickey is a deeply spiritual person. I would imagine a lot of the people who continually bash Harte for his faith and stubbornness would come nowhere near having the sort of positive effect he has had on many people's live, including some very troubled and grieving souls.

People are entitled to their opinions but I think some of the cheap character attacks on Harte here give you an insight into the kind of person making them.

Not a character attack.  I absolutely respect his deep faith and he has went through things that I can't even imagine and he says himself his faith keeps him going.

However, I don't think it's appropriate to expect others to replicate that in his position.

Replicate what? Faith?

I don't think it causes any problems whatsoever to those who his faith might impact on.

Again it's a bit like the RTE boycott. Players will feel the need to act like sheep and go along with the flock because of the fear of standing out and being dropped. If a player thinks it is ridiculous and doesn't want to participate the simple fact is harte doesn't look on that sort of thing kindly. A lot of these players given free choice wouldn't be near a chapel from one end of the year to the other but here they are saying 5 decades of the rosary before games.

Didn't you say McCarron would be dropped for engaging with RTE?

Your word doesn't seem to carry much credibility around here.

If he had gone onto RTE then I would have expected him to be dropped from the team. I am not saying that definitively, it's only an opinion. It is based on knowing a few ex players. It is commonly reported that harte was livid with mcmenamin for going onto the sunday game.

Was it? Throw up a link to one of those reports that was so common so I can have a look. Or did these "ex players" that you know so well report that one too?