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Re: CPA (Club Players Association)
« Reply #150 on: January 11, 2017, 08:31:18 AM »
Each county should organise a Summer Fun League (the SFL???) for the non-county players.  Play it Thursday night or Friday night.  A game every week with a two week shutdown for holiday, say the first two week of August.  Start June 1, end Sept 1 is three full months.  10 games.

Made for player who just want to play a game with their lifelong friends and clubmates without the need for dieticians or S&C coaches.  Of course, a few players on every team will take it very seriously in prep for September/October full club fare, but that is fine too.  You would have the soccer and rugby lads returning for the summer and, who knows, maybe even staying for the county championship.

Win/Win?

Slightly similar to this I have said for a while that League fixtures should be played in the 4 months March - June that will be both with and without county players. July and August see a lot of Holidays so instead of scrubbing this period or guilting amateurs into not taking a family holiday, county boards or divisional county boards can organise a reduced numbers if needed Summer league. have around 7 teams in each division and get around 6 fixtures in Hurling and football and if the league needs to be 11 aside or 13 aside so be it. September/October is then set for Championship. half the clubs in the country only get one round anyway, the weather is still relatively good and by 3 week in October County championships will be over with exception of Counties in AI Final. 8 Month season for club player except for those unlucky enough to win a county title.

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Re: CPA (Club Players Association)
« Reply #151 on: January 11, 2017, 09:00:50 AM »
Right lads, you've been in the gym 3 times a week for 3 years. You spent January to March on the track and running up mountains. You've been off the drink since April. Today lads, today it's the 1st of July and all that hard work is about to pay off. Today we meet our old rivals the Cross-Community Lionesses in 9-a-side no contact football. It doesn't matter whether we win or lose. Lads, It's all about days like this. You will remember this day forever.


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« Reply #152 on: January 11, 2017, 09:55:35 AM »
On another thread I've laid out a plan for a club and IC season. Now, not everyone may agree with it but I see no reason why we can't have two distinct seasons as long as we accept certain realities.

Zulu the GAA is in competition with professional sports.

It cannot shorten the inter county season.

People need to start accepting the realities of the situation and leave Never Never Land to the CPA.

I support the movement but unfortunately the leaders are going to try and fight a battle they are never going to win

The goal is more games and a proper season for club players. Take the county players out and it's easily done

Take the county players out and then county teams begin to disappear. Players in at least 10 counties won't play for their county if it means not playing club. Could even be more.

I doubt that very much. I haven't met many county players when asked " off the record" do they miss playing club football. The reality is playing club football at the end of the season is a pain in the arse for most of them.

It's great for PR to say they love playing for the club. After training for 6-7 months it's an imposition

That'd be only the top end I'd say Indiana, counties with a serious chance of lifting Sam. The vast, vast majority of players in leagues 2 to 4 would choose club over county if they had a serious chance of winning their county championship. I can't imagine the Dublin players were invigorated going straight into club championship after having no time to celebrate winning the All-Ireland last year. Paul Flynn (gpa secretary) choose to go away on a holiday over playing a Leinster intermediate semi-final for the club, their biggest game in years.
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« Reply #153 on: January 11, 2017, 09:59:15 AM »
Interesting to see the GPA supporters mask slipping. The GPA has always been about getting paid and moving to a professional game by separating club and county. That is their goal and they will achieve it.....it's too late to beat them now. At least Indiana is honest about it.

I completely disagree with this and would hope it does not happen but I've accepted it will. In a way it might turn out to be better than the mess we currently have. Give the GAA back to the volunteers.

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« Reply #154 on: January 11, 2017, 10:01:25 AM »
On another thread I've laid out a plan for a club and IC season. Now, not everyone may agree with it but I see no reason why we can't have two distinct seasons as long as we accept certain realities.

Zulu the GAA is in competition with professional sports.

It cannot shorten the inter county season.

People need to start accepting the realities of the situation and leave Never Never Land to the CPA.

I support the movement but unfortunately the leaders are going to try and fight a battle they are never going to win

The goal is more games and a proper season for club players. Take the county players out and it's easily done

Take the county players out and then county teams begin to disappear. Players in at least 10 counties won't play for their county if it means not playing club. Could even be more.

I tend to agree Shark.

Indiana, the IC season I propose is 5 to 6 months long but all of it is high profile with multiple games and a highlight show every Saturday. The NFL is a world sporting behemoth and only lasts about 5 months. I'm not claiming my proposal is perfect but it's certainly better for competing with professional sports than the current one.

The GAA from a revenue perspective from it's sponsors and with advertising can't afford to shorten the season by two months.

Financial suicide. And that's why this won't get off the ground.

the horse bolted on this 10 years ago

The voluntary organisation with all it's property paid off will struggle financially?

Spare us the waffle.


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« Reply #155 on: January 11, 2017, 10:09:04 AM »
I think if the CPA gets off the ground and truly has a mandate to represent the views of the wider 'volunteer' association, then the GPA will start to look quite small in comparison.
The narrative will no longer simply consist of the GPA, provincial councils and GAA HQ deciding what's best for everyone, primarily based on financial considerations.
That's assuming people get off their arse and register, and in this day and age where taking 30 seconds to do something seems like a lot of effort to some people, it'll be interesting to see how many people have signed up over the next month or so.
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« Reply #156 on: January 11, 2017, 11:01:10 AM »
I see GPA bashing is back in vogue this morning  ::)
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« Reply #157 on: January 11, 2017, 11:02:49 AM »
The voluntary organisation with all it's property paid off will struggle financially?

Of course it will. Croke Park will require massive capital reinvestment and possibly reconstruction in 20-odd years time. Parts of the stadium are now midway through their expected useful life of 40-odd years. The same will apply to stadiums around the country, some of which aren't even built yet (eg Casement) and others in a rickety state (eg Clones, Roscommon, Newbridge)  And the bills for coaching aren't going to get smaller as the years go on.

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« Reply #158 on: January 11, 2017, 11:07:34 AM »
I see GPA bashing is back in vogue this morning  ::)
And Rossfan moaning about anyone who dare breathe ill about his beloved GPA with it  ::)

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« Reply #159 on: January 11, 2017, 11:16:32 AM »
I am not a member of or lover of or have any connection with or any interest in the GPA.
It's just that some here can't comment on any subject without bashing that organisation.
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« Reply #160 on: January 11, 2017, 11:21:49 AM »
I am not a member of or lover of or have any connection with or any interest in the GPA.
It's just that some here can't comment on any subject without bashing that organisation.
But you can never resist sneering whenever criiticism of it is expressed here.

And that top line is a lot like the Shinner supporters who love to deny/deflect from/attack the sources of any criticism of them yet brazenly claim they're not Shinners.

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« Reply #161 on: January 11, 2017, 11:33:54 AM »
So it's all Sinn Féin's fault???????
I see the Cork Chairman is opposed to playing AI Final by August weekend - on promotional grounds.
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« Reply #162 on: January 11, 2017, 12:02:25 PM »
So it's all Sinn Féin's fault???????
I see the Cork Chairman is opposed to playing AI Final by August weekend - on promotional grounds.
I'm not sure where you managed to draw that conclusion from. I merely noted that the denial was similar, but then it's others here who are pushing the GPA agenda rather than yourself.

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« Reply #163 on: January 11, 2017, 12:52:10 PM »
So it's all Sinn Féin's fault???????
I see the Cork Chairman is opposed to playing AI Final by August weekend - on promotional grounds.
I'm not sure where you managed to draw that conclusion from. I merely noted that the denial was similar, but then it's others here who are pushing the GPA agenda rather than yourself.

Who's pushing the GPA agenda and what is it so we can all recognise when it's being pushed?

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Re: CPA (Club Players Association)
« Reply #164 on: January 11, 2017, 01:15:54 PM »
I see GPA bashing is back in vogue this morning  ::)


Is stating the facts now known as "bashing"? If it is then I'm guilty as charged.

It would be more in your line to argue with me how I'm wrong that resort to some mealy mouthed like the above. Trouble is, I'm right.