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Re: CPA (Club Players Association)
« Reply #135 on: January 10, 2017, 10:54:31 PM »
On another thread I've laid out a plan for a club and IC season. Now, not everyone may agree with it but I see no reason why we can't have two distinct seasons as long as we accept certain realities.

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Re: CPA (Club Players Association)
« Reply #136 on: January 10, 2017, 10:57:13 PM »
On another thread I've laid out a plan for a club and IC season. Now, not everyone may agree with it but I see no reason why we can't have two distinct seasons as long as we accept certain realities.

Zulu the GAA is in competition with professional sports.

It cannot shorten the inter county season.

People need to start accepting the realities of the situation and leave Never Never Land to the CPA.

I support the movement but unfortunately the leaders are going to try and fight a battle they are never going to win

The goal is more games and a proper season for club players. Take the county players out and it's easily done
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Re: CPA (Club Players Association)
« Reply #137 on: January 10, 2017, 11:01:37 PM »
On another thread I've laid out a plan for a club and IC season. Now, not everyone may agree with it but I see no reason why we can't have two distinct seasons as long as we accept certain realities.

Zulu the GAA is in competition with professional sports.

It cannot shorten the inter county season.

People need to start accepting the realities of the situation and leave Never Never Land to the CPA.

I support the movement but unfortunately the leaders are going to try and fight a battle they are never going to win

The goal is more games and a proper season for club players. Take the county players out and it's easily done

Take the county players out and then county teams begin to disappear. Players in at least 10 counties won't play for their county if it means not playing club. Could even be more.

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Re: CPA (Club Players Association)
« Reply #138 on: January 10, 2017, 11:06:18 PM »
On another thread I've laid out a plan for a club and IC season. Now, not everyone may agree with it but I see no reason why we can't have two distinct seasons as long as we accept certain realities.

Zulu the GAA is in competition with professional sports.

It cannot shorten the inter county season.

People need to start accepting the realities of the situation and leave Never Never Land to the CPA.

I support the movement but unfortunately the leaders are going to try and fight a battle they are never going to win

The goal is more games and a proper season for club players. Take the county players out and it's easily done

Take the county players out and then county teams begin to disappear. Players in at least 10 counties won't play for their county if it means not playing club. Could even be more.

I doubt that very much. I haven't met many county players when asked " off the record" do they miss playing club football. The reality is playing club football at the end of the season is a pain in the arse for most of them.

It's great for PR to say they love playing for the club. After training for 6-7 months it's an imposition

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Re: CPA (Club Players Association)
« Reply #139 on: January 10, 2017, 11:08:17 PM »
On another thread I've laid out a plan for a club and IC season. Now, not everyone may agree with it but I see no reason why we can't have two distinct seasons as long as we accept certain realities.

Zulu the GAA is in competition with professional sports.

It cannot shorten the inter county season.

People need to start accepting the realities of the situation and leave Never Never Land to the CPA.

I support the movement but unfortunately the leaders are going to try and fight a battle they are never going to win

The goal is more games and a proper season for club players. Take the county players out and it's easily done

Take the county players out and then county teams begin to disappear. Players in at least 10 counties won't play for their county if it means not playing club. Could even be more.

I tend to agree Shark.

Indiana, the IC season I propose is 5 to 6 months long but all of it is high profile with multiple games and a highlight show every Saturday. The NFL is a world sporting behemoth and only lasts about 5 months. I'm not claiming my proposal is perfect but it's certainly better for competing with professional sports than the current one.

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« Reply #140 on: January 10, 2017, 11:09:15 PM »
I think you are very wrong Indiana. I would say that even a county like Tyrone who are in the top 6 would struggle to get a team if this was the case........

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« Reply #141 on: January 10, 2017, 11:14:55 PM »
I think you are very wrong Indiana. I would say that even a county like Tyrone who are in the top 6 would struggle to get a team if this was the case........

I doubt it. I'd love to see an anonymous questionnaire on this. I believe based on my experience the answers would be revealing.

I know several county players who really dislike it after 7 months hard training . For them they end up playing two separate seasons and its not fair


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« Reply #142 on: January 10, 2017, 11:16:15 PM »
On another thread I've laid out a plan for a club and IC season. Now, not everyone may agree with it but I see no reason why we can't have two distinct seasons as long as we accept certain realities.

Zulu the GAA is in competition with professional sports.

It cannot shorten the inter county season.

People need to start accepting the realities of the situation and leave Never Never Land to the CPA.

I support the movement but unfortunately the leaders are going to try and fight a battle they are never going to win

The goal is more games and a proper season for club players. Take the county players out and it's easily done

Take the county players out and then county teams begin to disappear. Players in at least 10 counties won't play for their county if it means not playing club. Could even be more.

I tend to agree Shark.

Indiana, the IC season I propose is 5 to 6 months long but all of it is high profile with multiple games and a highlight show every Saturday. The NFL is a world sporting behemoth and only lasts about 5 months. I'm not claiming my proposal is perfect but it's certainly better for competing with professional sports than the current one.

The GAA from a revenue perspective from it's sponsors and with advertising can't afford to shorten the season by two months.

Financial suicide. And that's why this won't get off the ground.

the horse bolted on this 10 years ago

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« Reply #143 on: January 10, 2017, 11:19:59 PM »
On another thread I've laid out a plan for a club and IC season. Now, not everyone may agree with it but I see no reason why we can't have two distinct seasons as long as we accept certain realities.

Zulu the GAA is in competition with professional sports.

It cannot shorten the inter county season.

People need to start accepting the realities of the situation and leave Never Never Land to the CPA.

I support the movement but unfortunately the leaders are going to try and fight a battle they are never going to win

The goal is more games and a proper season for club players. Take the county players out and it's easily done

Take the county players out and then county teams begin to disappear. Players in at least 10 counties won't play for their county if it means not playing club. Could even be more.

I doubt that very much. I haven't met many county players when asked " off the record" do they miss playing club football. The reality is playing club football at the end of the season is a pain in the arse for most of them.

It's great for PR to say they love playing for the club. After training for 6-7 months it's an imposition

I'm from a county that has won feck all, and will continue to win feck all. My club are possibly (I'm not certain) the biggest supplier of players to the senior county team in over the past 30 years. I know these guys extremely well. I've played with them, drank with them and gone to school with many of them. They (mostly) love playing for their county, but of all these guys over that period I can think of 2, maybe 3 (out of more than 30 on quick estimation) who would have chosen county over club.

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Re: CPA (Club Players Association)
« Reply #144 on: January 10, 2017, 11:20:46 PM »
On another thread I've laid out a plan for a club and IC season. Now, not everyone may agree with it but I see no reason why we can't have two distinct seasons as long as we accept certain realities.

Zulu the GAA is in competition with professional sports.

It cannot shorten the inter county season.

People need to start accepting the realities of the situation and leave Never Never Land to the CPA.

I support the movement but unfortunately the leaders are going to try and fight a battle they are never going to win

The goal is more games and a proper season for club players. Take the county players out and it's easily done

Take the county players out and then county teams begin to disappear. Players in at least 10 counties won't play for their county if it means not playing club. Could even be more.

I tend to agree Shark.

Indiana, the IC season I propose is 5 to 6 months long but all of it is high profile with multiple games and a highlight show every Saturday. The NFL is a world sporting behemoth and only lasts about 5 months. I'm not claiming my proposal is perfect but it's certainly better for competing with professional sports than the current one.

The GAA from a revenue perspective from it's sponsors and with advertising can't afford to shorten the season by two months.

Financial suicide. And that's why this won't get off the ground.

the horse bolted on this 10 years ago

And on that point, you are 100% correct. Unfortunately.

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« Reply #145 on: January 10, 2017, 11:22:49 PM »
It will get off the ground if the players stick together.  No players no revenues - about time the gaa realized that players are humans not just a means of generating revenues.
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Re: CPA (Club Players Association)
« Reply #146 on: January 10, 2017, 11:22:59 PM »
Why? If the NFL can why can't the GAA? It could be 6 months with far more big games than currently exists. The league element would mean that there would be football games like Dublin v Kerry, Mayo v Tyrone and hurling games like Waterford v Kilkenny and Tipp v Galway on RTE every weekend for two months. That's worth a lot of money for TV stations and ad revenue, then you've knockout after that every weekend and a match of the day type program every Saturday and Sunday, a preview/review weekend program midweek. I can't see how you can make a claim that the current format which ignores 70% of games is better than one which has maybe 10 high profile games every week.


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Re: CPA (Club Players Association)
« Reply #147 on: January 10, 2017, 11:36:20 PM »
How many players would choose to play for their county and not play for the club?
If they were to get half the managers get......
The obvious solution is Club Leagues go ahead without Co players to ensure the club players get a regular programme of games.  Then separate  Club and Inter County Championship periods.
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« Reply #148 on: January 11, 2017, 12:41:36 AM »
Each county should organise a Summer Fun League (the SFL???) for the non-county players.  Play it Thursday night or Friday night.  A game every week with a two week shutdown for holiday, say the first two week of August.  Start June 1, end Sept 1 is three full months.  10 games.

Made for player who just want to play a game with their lifelong friends and clubmates without the need for dieticians or S&C coaches.  Of course, a few players on every team will take it very seriously in prep for September/October full club fare, but that is fine too.  You would have the soccer and rugby lads returning for the summer and, who knows, maybe even staying for the county championship.

Win/Win?


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Re: CPA (Club Players Association)
« Reply #149 on: January 11, 2017, 07:20:23 AM »
Each county should organise a Summer Fun League (the SFL???) for the non-county players.  Play it Thursday night or Friday night.  A game every week with a two week shutdown for holiday, say the first two week of August.  Start June 1, end Sept 1 is three full months.  10 games.

Made for player who just want to play a game with their lifelong friends and clubmates without the need for dieticians or S&C coaches.  Of course, a few players on every team will take it very seriously in prep for September/October full club fare, but that is fine too.  You would have the soccer and rugby lads returning for the summer and, who knows, maybe even staying for the county championship.

Win/Win?

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