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Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« Reply #2775 on: April 03, 2021, 02:29:01 PM »
Fair play to Mulryan indeed for all his help....but he still had to be paid for the houses.
The whole question of funding Counties, expenditure on County teams etc , needs a serious examination to see if a solution based on fairness can be found.

It will never be completely fair. But there should be a common pool of money divided by 32 (or what ever the number is minus Kilkenny plus London and New York). A squad of 30+ players from Leitrim should be entitled to the same expenses as a squad from Mayo, Galway, Donegal, Tyrone, Kerry and the obvious one!

This is in relation to football only. Hurling would need a different mechanism!

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Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« Reply #2776 on: April 03, 2021, 03:16:06 PM »
They're all entitled to the same official expenses but it's a major burden on small Counties' Boards.
Also Western and rural Counties bear a dispropriate burden.
Central GAA should pay them for a set number of weeks, say from 1st December or whenever till County finishes its Championship run - early June for most in the new split Season model.
Also some percentage of sponsorship needs pooling too.
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« Reply #2777 on: April 03, 2021, 05:29:05 PM »
They're all entitled to the same official expenses but it's a major burden on small Counties' Boards.
Also Western and rural Counties bear a dispropriate burden.
Central GAA should pay them for a set number of weeks, say from 1st December or whenever till County finishes its Championship run - early June for most in the new split Season model.
Also some percentage of sponsorship needs pooling too.

Croke Park have taken over the administration of the players and backroom staff mileage and expenses scheme since last year.
Each county squad (both hurling and football) are entitled to expenses for 32 players and 9 backroom staff.
Grants from Croke Park to each county have been reduced as a result.



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Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« Reply #2778 on: April 03, 2021, 06:20:21 PM »
So in effect the individual Counties still bear the cost?
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« Reply #2779 on: April 03, 2021, 08:43:17 PM »
They're all entitled to the same official expenses but it's a major burden on small Counties' Boards.
Also Western and rural Counties bear a dispropriate burden.
Central GAA should pay them for a set number of weeks, say from 1st December or whenever till County finishes its Championship run - early June for most in the new split Season model.
Also some percentage of sponsorship needs pooling too.

Croke Park have taken over the administration of the players and backroom staff mileage and expenses scheme since last year.
Each county squad (both hurling and football) are entitled to expenses for 32 players and 9 backroom staff.
Grants from Croke Park to each county have been reduced as a result.




I thought that just a covid measure? is it a permanent arrangement?
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Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« Reply #2781 on: April 06, 2021, 10:32:30 PM »
Was wondering how they’d afford the new management ticket!!

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« Reply #2782 on: April 07, 2021, 03:37:12 PM »

I thought that just a covid measure? is it a permanent arrangement?

Permanent measure - GPA have been working for a good while to get this through.
Expenses/allowances have caused a world of bother over the years between county boards and squads.
Some of the worst behaviour by county board officials has been related to this - telling certain lads on panels they don't deserve it/trying to put lads who were injured off from claiming/delaying payments by months and months/massive differences in time scale between how different codes were treated. This wasn't all counties but over the years there have been some real terrible carry-on by some individuals in county boards. Croke Park taking care of it should improve matters a lot.
Story below is just one example. There were a lot of other cases over the years.
https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/arid-40217390.html

So in effect the individual Counties still bear the cost?

County boards were getting grants from Croke Park from when the central agreement to pay players expenses started.
County boards aren't losing out at all.
County boards also save time/money on the administration of this.

Counties are curently still allowed carry more than the 32 players and 9 backroom team but any of these additional/extra costs the county has to bear [don't be surprised if this - being allowed carry more than 32+9 - comes under pressure down the road - there was already talk that this (32+9) should be the maximum allowed in total]

What's really going to be interesting in the various county board financial accounts is the money spent on intercounty teams preparation, when these standard player and backroom expenses are taken out. Will give a clearer idea on what counties are spending on intercounty preparation over the standard allowances to players.

These measure should benefit a lot of the weaker teams in the less popular codes e.g. hurling in a lot of counties and football in some of the hurling counties.

For a lot of managers the fact that the expenses/allowances for a squad of 32 players and a backroom team of 9 expenses are guaranteed and administered by Croke Park for pre-season training,league and championship without having to go anywhere near the county board will be a massive plus. I'd say if you looked at a lot of intercounty squads they came nowhere near having expenses covered for 32 players and 9 backroom staff.

It's not going to solve all the issues around the cost of intercounty teams but it is a step forward, especially for the players on teams lower down the divisions.
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Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« Reply #2783 on: April 08, 2021, 08:03:56 AM »
Monaghan going to take some heat off Dublin or adding to it?

Seems they’d a full training session at the Bantys home club. Book couldn’t be fired hard enough at him in fairness.

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« Reply #2784 on: April 08, 2021, 08:38:33 AM »
Monaghan going to take some heat off Dublin or adding to it?

Seems they’d a full training session at the Bantys home club. Book couldn’t be fired hard enough at him in fairness.

When Banty was Meath manager  the Meath team would train in Monaghan in club jersies during the close season. It's not a new development for them.

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Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« Reply #2785 on: April 08, 2021, 09:14:45 AM »
Wonder were donie Buckley and Johnny Davis there? Book needs to be thrown at them too as they have clearly breached the travel rules.

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Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« Reply #2786 on: April 08, 2021, 08:45:19 PM »
Monaghan going to take some heat off Dublin or adding to it?

Seems they’d a full training session at the Bantys home club. Book couldn’t be fired hard enough at him in fairness.
Dubs off the hook. The matter is now diluted and shure they're all at it etc. New GAA president Larry McCarthy announced today that following this latest transgression, a committee has been set up to  review the issue . No mention of a committee when Cormac Costelloe, Fenton, Cooper etc were caught at 6'o'clock in the morning down the shady lane.

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Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« Reply #2787 on: April 08, 2021, 09:07:25 PM »
Monaghan going to take some heat off Dublin or adding to it?

Seems they’d a full training session at the Bantys home club. Book couldn’t be fired hard enough at him in fairness.
Dubs off the hook. The matter is now diluted and shure they're all at it etc. New GAA president Larry McCarthy announced today that following this latest transgression, a committee has been set up to  review the issue . No mention of a committee when Cormac Costelloe, Fenton, Cooper etc were caught at 6'o'clock in the morning down the shady lane.

How long were the Cork and Down lads banned for?

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Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« Reply #2788 on: April 09, 2021, 05:53:42 PM »
Monaghan going to take some heat off Dublin or adding to it?

Seems they’d a full training session at the Bantys home club. Book couldn’t be fired hard enough at him in fairness.

Both. Adding to the GAA's arseache that they are perceived to not give a shit. They don't know county sides are training on association grounds but will catch anyone renting the astro to soccer. Hmmmm.

Still doesn't let the Dubs off the hook but its getting lost in a broader debacle.