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Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« Reply #2130 on: August 01, 2020, 10:51:19 AM »
Splitting Dublin into 4 is a no brainer but until Central GAA and the other 31 Counties get some backbone and push it through we won't be seeing it.
Rural depopukation in the BMW ( and most other Counties) has been ongoing since 1845 :-\

Solves the problem of Dublin’s advantages but causes or doesn’t solve other problems

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« Reply #2131 on: August 01, 2020, 01:35:09 PM »
Splitting Dublin into 4 is a no brainer but until Central GAA and the other 31 Counties get some backbone and push it through we won't be seeing it.
Rural depopukation in the BMW ( and most other Counties) has been ongoing since 1845 :-\

Solves the problem of Dublin’s advantages but causes or doesn’t solve other problems

It is a not a valid criticism of a solution to a problem to say that it doesn't solve other problems.
What other problems does it cause?
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Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« Reply #2132 on: August 01, 2020, 01:35:53 PM »
The GAA has brought in the Tailteann Cup for the smaller Counties plus the Hurling Counties plus the 2 or 3 inept Counties
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Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« Reply #2133 on: August 01, 2020, 01:47:30 PM »
Splitting Dublin into 4 is a no brainer but until Central GAA and the other 31 Counties get some backbone and push it through we won't be seeing it.
Rural depopukation in the BMW ( and most other Counties) has been ongoing since 1845 :-\

Solves the problem of Dublin’s advantages but causes or doesn’t solve other problems

It is a not a valid criticism of a solution to a problem to say that it doesn't solve other problems.
What other problems does it cause?

Where do you suggest the 4 dublin teams play their home games? Croke Park I imagine.

The proud south dublin Steelers who play in the heart of the north side. Not going to be great for building a brand identity or sense of ownership of the team.

The problems it won’t solve are Kildare and Meath’s growing population advantages over Laois, Wexford etc.which is the same ticking time bomb Dublin’s advantages were 30 years ago.

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« Reply #2134 on: August 01, 2020, 02:37:11 PM »
if dublin is split does that mean the club teams will be split aswell so we could see a north dublin club championship

Presumably. How many clubs in the Corpo area? I make it 14 or so, with 4 senior football and 5 hurling. So the Central Dublin Capitals become, by a mile, the smallest county by participation and club numbers

The Dun Laoighre Kingsmen are a mid level hurling power and the Fingal Flyers and South Dublin Moneyballs both are decent football teams with zero fans.
Who pays for your facilities if your cash cow has less players than Leitrim?
I agree with you here. Just splitting Dublin, in any number of units, could cause more problems than it would solve.
But it is important to remember that at least 90 per cent of the population of Leitrim follow GAA affairs, whereas only 10 per cent at most of Dubs do likewise.
I have said before that the greater Finglas area has roughly the same size population as County Cavan but, to all intents and purposes, Finglas has only one that counts, Erin’s Isle, a mid- sized senior club and about middle of the ranking.
Leitrim won’t win an AI but the future of the GAA is more assured
than it is in Dublin and not just Finglas.
So, should Dublin be split or not be split, that is the question, as Shakespeare might put it.
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Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« Reply #2135 on: August 01, 2020, 07:28:52 PM »
Splitting Dublin into 4 is a no brainer but until Central GAA and the other 31 Counties get some backbone and push it through we won't be seeing it.
Rural depopukation in the BMW ( and most other Counties) has been ongoing since 1845 :-\

Solves the problem of Dublin’s advantages but causes or doesn’t solve other problems

It is a not a valid criticism of a solution to a problem to say that it doesn't solve other problems.
What other problems does it cause?

One of your four counties has 14 odd clubs, a second 5.

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Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« Reply #2136 on: August 01, 2020, 08:34:05 PM »
I am not advocating any particular boundaries for a Dublin split, so comments about nunber of clubs does not refute my point.
However, more clubs in Dublin are badly needed also.
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Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« Reply #2137 on: August 01, 2020, 08:38:30 PM »
Splitting Dublin into 4 is a no brainer but until Central GAA and the other 31 Counties get some backbone and push it through we won't be seeing it.
Rural depopukation in the BMW ( and most other Counties) has been ongoing since 1845 :-\

Solves the problem of Dublin’s advantages but causes or doesn’t solve other problems

It is a not a valid criticism of a solution to a problem to say that it doesn't solve other problems.
What other problems does it cause?

One of your four counties has 14 odd clubs, a second 5.

Time for Volunteers to work harder ;D
And how many playing members would those clubs have?
1 BIG CUP and 1 Cupeen so far....

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Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« Reply #2138 on: August 03, 2020, 12:49:05 AM »
Splitting Dublin into 4 is a no brainer but until Central GAA and the other 31 Counties get some backbone and push it through we won't be seeing it.
Rural depopukation in the BMW ( and most other Counties) has been ongoing since 1845 :-\
Yup. The population of Mayo in the early 1840s was greater than that of Dublin.

Are you suggesting that Dublin planned the Famine?!
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« Reply #2139 on: August 03, 2020, 11:17:46 AM »
No, but as I pointed out before the present population differences were much less when the GAA chose to use counties. Clubs are supposed to be the bedrock of the GAA but they both subdivide and join and if an area has population growth it should have more clubs. Why should counties be immutable?
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Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« Reply #2140 on: August 03, 2020, 11:32:51 AM »
Back in the 1880s of horse drawn and steam train transport and postal communication only The County-Provincial- National idea of Governance and consequent competition was the only logical way to run an organisation.
With the vast differences in populations among the Counties nowadays plus e communication etc there isn't much logic in the County system or Provincial Councils either.
However  County loyalty is embedded emotionally in GAA people so hard to see it ever changing for represenative gaelic games.
Maybe possible in the lower ranks of hurling where interest in hurling is negligible but not likely in football.

However if the Dublin juggernaut goes on to 9 or 10 in a row the growing lack of interest and €€€€€€s may cause some rethinking.
1 BIG CUP and 1 Cupeen so far....

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Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« Reply #2141 on: August 03, 2020, 11:24:57 PM »
Splitting Dublin into 4 is a no brainer but until Central GAA and the other 31 Counties get some backbone and push it through we won't be seeing it.
Rural depopukation in the BMW ( and most other Counties) has been ongoing since 1845 :-\
Yup. The population of Mayo in the early 1840s was greater than that of Dublin.

Are you suggesting that Dublin planned the Famine?!
What?? Are you suggesting them conniving bastards didn't? ;D
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