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Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« Reply #75 on: October 07, 2016, 11:43:17 AM »
The real solution is to split Fermanagh
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« Reply #76 on: October 07, 2016, 05:32:40 PM »
The real solution is to split Fermanagh
I thought it was already split.
According to Peter McGinnity, one half is lakes and the other half is Protestants. ;D
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« Reply #77 on: October 16, 2016, 04:40:07 AM »
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-the-counties-whining-about-dublins-advantages-are-missing-the-point-entirely-35132361.html

Let's get something straight here though. This Dublin team is a special group and that's not down to money or the number of coaches in the city. Think about when Stephen Cluxton quits or Cian O'Sullivan quits or Bernard Brogan, Paul Flynn or Michael Darragh Macauley.....we're talking once-off players here.

Do you honestly believe that there'll just be some seamless kind of hand-over to men of a similar standard? If you do, can I ask you what's the weather like in Cloud Cuckoo Land?


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« Reply #78 on: October 16, 2016, 01:38:22 PM »
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-the-counties-whining-about-dublins-advantages-are-missing-the-point-entirely-35132361.html

Let's get something straight here though. This Dublin team is a special group and that's not down to money or the number of coaches in the city. Think about when Stephen Cluxton quits or Cian O'Sullivan quits or Bernard Brogan, Paul Flynn or Michael Darragh Macauley.....we're talking once-off players here.

Do you honestly believe that there'll just be some seamless kind of hand-over to men of a similar standard? If you do, can I ask you what's the weather like in Cloud Cuckoo Land?


Oh for Christ’s sake, here we go again! ;D ;D
It’s more or less as follows..

This Dublin team is a special group and that's not down to money or the number of coaches in the county. Think about when Stephen Cluxton quits or Cian O'Sullivan quits or Bernard Brogan, Paul Flynn or Michael Darragh Macauley.....we're talking once-off players here.

Do you honestly believe that there'll just be some seamless kind of hand-over to men of a similar standard? If you do, can I ask you what's the weather like in Cloud Cuckoo Land?

Following the line of logic here, Dublin’s present (extremely talented) side just got their act together around 2010-2011 and the reason why they are so good had nothing to do with the fact that almost one in three of the population of the Republic live there.
All the coaches they have and the money they have has nothing to do with their recent run of success and the fact that none of their players has to clock up around 1.000 km a week to attend training sessions is merely coincidental.

Etc. etc….the spiel goes on and on…

It would appear that Dublin is just lucky to have such a bunch of talented players now as Kerry had in the late 70s or Kilkenny hurlers had in recent years and it’s down to culchie hoors like me that Dublin aren’t accepted as a normal county which just happens to have a talented side. Once Berno and Clucko and Diarmo and Ciano and Uncle Tom Cobbley and all  hang up their boots, all will return to normal once more.

Anyone who swallows that taurine excrement is indeed living in Cloud Cuckoo Land!
In 2010 Meath put five past Clucko, winning by 11 points in the process.
Yet, the following year with most of the ‘10 team still on board, Dublin went all the way to the top.

So cart horses morphed into thoroughbreds in a single season< of their own accord!

The fact that the County Board felt they were humiliated and decided to get their act together, hence the “Blue Flag” initiative, had nothing to do  with the dramatic turnabout upsurge in Dublin’s football fortunes.

Tomás and his likes may well spout that that there is no a well-oiled conveyor belt of talent coming through to replace the present players.

McCaffrey, McCarthy, Fenton, Kilkenny, Cooper,  Costello, Small etc. just materialised out of nowhere like Stephen Hawking’s theory of Creation?

WTF does he think he’s codding??

Look, I have nothing personal against Jim Gavin, a true gent, or his team as they are doing what any other county would do if they had the same resources. But, FFS, stop the hypocrisy of pretence that Dublin are just like any other side and that Professionalism and Science all along with unlimited backup resources mean nothing at all.

How many All Irelands have been won to date by Leitrim, Sligo or ,say, Carlow. I mean if money and the most professional set up this side of the Alamo count for nothing, how come any of the above never won one yet?
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« Reply #79 on: October 16, 2016, 01:55:59 PM »
Would dublin have won the all they have these last few years on Leitrims budget?
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« Reply #80 on: October 16, 2016, 02:33:00 PM »
Would dublin have won the all they have these last few years on Leitrims budget?
No. Carry on.

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« Reply #81 on: October 16, 2016, 02:42:10 PM »
Would dublin have won the all they have these last few years on Leitrims budget?

Would Mayo have made it to all those finals in recent years if they operated on Carlow's budget?

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« Reply #82 on: October 16, 2016, 02:50:53 PM »
If Dublin have the population of  a province then they would be expected to have the same number of talented players as a province.  Claiming that a few good players just happened to come along is an insult to our intelligence.
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« Reply #83 on: October 16, 2016, 03:18:06 PM »
Would dublin have won the all they have these last few years on Leitrims budget?

Would Mayo have made it to all those finals in recent years if they operated on Carlow's budget?
Of course they wouldn't but if you were to believe Tomás ÓSé , they could well have, since having loads of money and a set up that many Premierships clubs would die for, doesn't, make any difference.
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« Reply #84 on: October 16, 2016, 03:29:02 PM »
Would dublin have won the all they have these last few years on Leitrims budget?
No. Carry on.

Carry on.

It simply rubbishes the narrative of Dublin have a unique team who are so special that money and resources have nothing to do with their success.

They had an edge in last years semi reply because they had an excellent recovery prog inbetween the two games whilst we didnt have such a prog because of resources and logistical problems with our bucks scattered all over the country. Why is there such a reluctance to accept the reality.its not an excuse its just the truth.
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« Reply #85 on: October 16, 2016, 03:55:44 PM »
Would dublin have won the all they have these last few years on Leitrims budget?

Would Mayo have made it to all those finals in recent years if they operated on Carlow's budget?

Donie Buckley and Tony McEntee salaries were more than Carlow budget.

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« Reply #86 on: October 16, 2016, 04:02:21 PM »
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-the-counties-whining-about-dublins-advantages-are-missing-the-point-entirely-35132361.html

Let's get something straight here though. This Dublin team is a special group and that's not down to money or the number of coaches in the city. Think about when Stephen Cluxton quits or Cian O'Sullivan quits or Bernard Brogan, Paul Flynn or Michael Darragh Macauley.....we're talking once-off players here.

Do you honestly believe that there'll just be some seamless kind of hand-over to men of a similar standard? If you do, can I ask you what's the weather like in Cloud Cuckoo Land?


Oh for Christ’s sake, here we go again! ;D ;D
It’s more or less as follows..

This Dublin team is a special group and that's not down to money or the number of coaches in the county. Think about when Stephen Cluxton quits or Cian O'Sullivan quits or Bernard Brogan, Paul Flynn or Michael Darragh Macauley.....we're talking once-off players here.

Do you honestly believe that there'll just be some seamless kind of hand-over to men of a similar standard? If you do, can I ask you what's the weather like in Cloud Cuckoo Land?

Following the line of logic here, Dublin’s present (extremely talented) side just got their act together around 2010-2011 and the reason why they are so good had nothing to do with the fact that almost one in three of the population of the Republic live there.
All the coaches they have and the money they have has nothing to do with their recent run of success and the fact that none of their players has to clock up around 1.000 km a week to attend training sessions is merely coincidental.

Etc. etc….the spiel goes on and on…

It would appear that Dublin is just lucky to have such a bunch of talented players now as Kerry had in the late 70s or Kilkenny hurlers had in recent years and it’s down to culchie hoors like me that Dublin aren’t accepted as a normal county which just happens to have a talented side. Once Berno and Clucko and Diarmo and Ciano and Uncle Tom Cobbley and all  hang up their boots, all will return to normal once more.

Anyone who swallows that taurine excrement is indeed living in Cloud Cuckoo Land!
In 2010 Meath put five past Clucko, winning by 11 points in the process.
Yet, the following year with most of the ‘10 team still on board, Dublin went all the way to the top.

So cart horses morphed into thoroughbreds in a single season< of their own accord!

The fact that the County Board felt they were humiliated and decided to get their act together, hence the “Blue Flag” initiative, had nothing to do  with the dramatic turnabout upsurge in Dublin’s football fortunes.

Tomás and his likes may well spout that that there is no a well-oiled conveyor belt of talent coming through to replace the present players.

McCaffrey, McCarthy, Fenton, Kilkenny, Cooper,  Costello, Small etc. just materialised out of nowhere like Stephen Hawking’s theory of Creation?

WTF does he think he’s codding??

Look, I have nothing personal against Jim Gavin, a true gent, or his team as they are doing what any other county would do if they had the same resources. But, FFS, stop the hypocrisy of pretence that Dublin are just like any other side and that Professionalism and Science all along with unlimited backup resources mean nothing at all.

How many All Irelands have been won to date by Leitrim, Sligo or ,say, Carlow. I mean if money and the most professional set up this side of the Alamo count for nothing, how come any of the above never won one yet?

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Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« Reply #87 on: October 16, 2016, 04:07:30 PM »
Would dublin have won the all they have these last few years on Leitrims budget?
No. Carry on.

Carry on.

It simply rubbishes the narrative of Dublin have a unique team who are so special that money and resources have nothing to do with their success.

They had an edge in last years semi reply because they had an excellent recovery prog inbetween the two games whilst we didnt have such a prog because of resources and logistical problems with our bucks scattered all over the country. Why is there such a reluctance to accept the reality.its not an excuse its just the truth.

have to agree with this. With dublin players not working and getting meals delivered to them. Tough on the mayo players having to work the monday after and cramped into a bus straight after game. Dubs were definiely fresher the next day

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« Reply #88 on: October 16, 2016, 04:40:46 PM »
How long is generally customary for Mayo posters to bitch and moan after being beaten annually?

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« Reply #89 on: October 16, 2016, 04:56:44 PM »
Its just pointless if you dont want to tell it how it is. Sarcastic comebacks about meals and buses home etc, blah blah blah. The GAA have created a monster and furthermore if you knew anything youd know top brass realise that now.
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