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Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« Reply #780 on: May 09, 2018, 02:09:32 PM »
Mayo were going to have a commercial manager. Nothing happened about it though.
the county board says they could not afford to hire one. :(

That's unfortunate with Mayo's all of Ireland fan base.

Money arrives in different ways for different purposes, Mayo received an additional 5 million grant from Croke Park for the redevelopment of McHale Park. Nice money if you can get it.

There was no grant. We're just making the repayments to croke park instead of the bank. It's still costing us over 30k per month.

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« Reply #781 on: May 09, 2018, 02:51:12 PM »
there is some mention/figure of McHale park and interest to Croke Park in their report.

According to the Independent - 19/12/2017 article by Colm Keys

Dublin's overall income was 4,481,063 with expenditure of 4,364,154.

Looks as if Mayo are only a million behind in terms of income! wow!

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/16m-from-sponsors-offsets-rising-costs-of-dublin-teams-36420098.html


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« Reply #782 on: May 09, 2018, 06:33:47 PM »
I'd love to see the true costs counties put into teams. All these figures that go about regarding counties, in Dublin, tipp, Galway, cork how much of it goes to the football teams and how much towards the hurling teams. I know we had both senior teams away at fota island last weekend. With these 4 counties especially you have both teams playing at reasonably high standards. Compare that with mayo, Tyrone, Donegal, how much of the teams expenditure figures go towards each of their county hurling teams?

Last year the ones I'd like to focus on would be for example is all mayo just over 1.5m and limerick just over 1.1m. It's fair to say neither would be overly worried about hurling or football in limericks case. Compare that to galway almost 1.3m and tipp just over 1m who would both have reasonably good football teams as well as the best hurling teams. You'd imagine the majority would be going towards their hurlers but take Wicklow, 2nd lowest spenders, they're funds would primarily be going on football and they spend almost 400k on their team. If tipp were spending 600k on the hurlers then that's 400k on the footballers being 2nd lowest in the country.

Sorry if this is all over the place and could be completely wrong, just something I was thinking

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Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« Reply #783 on: May 09, 2018, 07:35:01 PM »
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/dublin-gaa-and-aig-agree-new-fiveyear-sponsorship-deal-36885688.html

Well done Dublin GAA!!

Amateur sport my hole!

Sure everything is fine.  The cash cow keep the coffers healthy at HQ.

So pipe down minions.



Kildare went through a few bob in their time - not too much to show for it though.
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Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« Reply #784 on: May 09, 2018, 09:30:04 PM »
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/dublin-gaa-and-aig-agree-new-fiveyear-sponsorship-deal-36885688.html

Well done Dublin GAA!!

Amateur sport my hole!

Sure everything is fine.  The cash cow keep the coffers healthy at HQ.

So pipe down minions.



Kildare went through a few bob in their time - not too much to show for it though.

Another Dub programmed to deflect.

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Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« Reply #785 on: May 09, 2018, 09:34:20 PM »


Kildare went through a few bob in their time - not too much to show for it though.

The Kildare supporters club when headed up by Michael Osbourne was successful at raising funds 30 years ago and by getting Micko was successful in taking Kildare out of the doldrums but I don't see how that is relevant these days when local businessmen would have more interest in rugby or golf. When there is no prospect or hope of success it is hard to get going. Maybe a B championship might change everything.

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« Reply #786 on: May 09, 2018, 11:09:23 PM »
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/dublin-gaa-and-aig-agree-new-fiveyear-sponsorship-deal-36885688.html

Well done Dublin GAA!!

Amateur sport my hole!

Sure everything is fine.  The cash cow keep the coffers healthy at HQ.

So pipe down minions.



Kildare went through a few bob in their time - not too much to show for it though.

Another Dub programmed to deflect.



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Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« Reply #788 on: May 10, 2018, 11:43:54 AM »
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According to a recent report Dublin have received 16,612,847 in coaching and development grants in the past decade and a half while Laois have picked up 864,376.

Fair play to the Examiner, they bring this up every so often , the above quote is from today, the below quotes are from last March


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In the period 2007-2017, Dublin received 16.6m in direct coaching assistance, 15.4m more than Cork, the next highest county, and 15.8m more than Galway (784,077).

Connacht in its entirety collectively received 3.1m.


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Most clubs across Dublin receive subsidies of around 15,000 to 20,000 towards the employment of club coaches, which in turn help clubs drive large membership incomes.


Another source of funding for Dublin clubs is the use of the Clubhouse for social functions. I played a junior match in the Thomas Davis club (on one of their fields) on a Sunday morning and by the time our match was finished the clubhouse was full for one of those sky "super sunday" days. I was told that it's the same every Sunday during the year. Clean up operation here in Dublin.











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Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« Reply #789 on: May 10, 2018, 12:02:02 PM »
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According to a recent report Dublin have received 16,612,847 in coaching and development grants in the past decade and a half while Laois have picked up 864,376.

Fair play to the Examiner, they bring this up every so often , the above quote is from today, the below quotes are from last March


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In the period 2007-2017, Dublin received 16.6m in direct coaching assistance, 15.4m more than Cork, the next highest county, and 15.8m more than Galway (784,077).

Connacht in its entirety collectively received 3.1m.


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Most clubs across Dublin receive subsidies of around 15,000 to 20,000 towards the employment of club coaches, which in turn help clubs drive large membership incomes.


Another source of funding for Dublin clubs is the use of the Clubhouse for social functions. I played a junior match in the Thomas Davis club (on one of their fields) on a Sunday morning and by the time our match was finished the clubhouse was full for one of those sky "super sunday" days. I was told that it's the same every Sunday during the year. Clean up operation here in Dublin.
What's a clubhouse?
Dressing rooms and a small meeting room and that's it for our club

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« Reply #790 on: May 10, 2018, 12:11:31 PM »
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What's a clubhouse?
Dressing rooms and a small meeting room and that's it for our club

The massive red thing in the picture in the article here from 2015 that happens to be about tax payers funds allocation to Dublin GAA clubs.


http://www.echo.ie/news/article/local-gaa-clubs-in-south-dublin-benefit-from-over-800000-funds-allocation


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Thomas Davis will use its funding toward the construction of a ground floor and first floor extension to its clubhouse which will include a tuck shop, a new sports treatment room and extended lounge and games room planning permission was granted in June.





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Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« Reply #792 on: May 10, 2018, 01:43:41 PM »
Mayo were going to have a commercial manager. Nothing happened about it though.
the county board says they could not afford to hire one. :(

That's unfortunate with Mayo's all of Ireland fan base.

Money arrives in different ways for different purposes, Mayo received an additional 5 million grant from Croke Park for the redevelopment of McHale Park. Nice money if you can get it.

There was no grant. We're just making the repayments to croke park instead of the bank. It's still costing us over 30k per month.
30k a month, for how many years?


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« Reply #793 on: May 10, 2018, 02:01:19 PM »
On the financial report it says

"Loan Interest McHale Park to Croke Park for 2017 was 164,596 - 2017
for 2016 169,095"

must be running at circa 12/15,000 a month perhaps?

"have seen an article saying Mayo make payments of somewhere in the region of 33,000 per month over the next 29 years tho"

Under Schedule 2 it has
Sponsorship 537,445 for 2017

AIG's Dublin is around 800,000 a year.  (5mil over 4 yrs)

Still pretty good for Mayo with the sponsorship if all correct!



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Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« Reply #794 on: May 10, 2018, 02:34:13 PM »
On the financial report it says

"Loan Interest McHale Park to Croke Park for 2017 was 164,596 - 2017
for 2016 169,095"

must be running at circa 12/15,000 a month perhaps?

"have seen an article saying Mayo make payments of somewhere in the region of 33,000 per month over the next 29 years tho"

Under Schedule 2 it has
Sponsorship 537,445 for 2017

AIG's Dublin is around 800,000 a year.  (5mil over 4 yrs)

Still pretty good for Mayo with the sponsorship if all correct!

Though I have little in the way of financial nous, that looks to be about 3.5% interest on the 5m
And 33k a month sounds about right for a 20year loan on those terms.

Croke Park must regard Mayo to be a low risk investment :)